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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
the comments on the first article are fascinating because most of them are americans complaining about "the elite left"

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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Condiv posted:

more like he's a hillary, and we all saw how that played out in 2016

She uh, lost by a narrow margin of voters in swing states due to the electoral college after being ahead by a narrow margin in polls

He's up 20+ points in polls and is going to win unless something insane happens between now and the final vote or the Clintonistas are right that Vladimir Putin's crack cyber terror squad is now in control of all elections on Earth

So I'm not sure how USA 2016 played out is gonna help

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Does anybody know enough about the culture of the French far right to speculate meaningfully on whether Le Pen's gender is a hindrance, asset, or non-factor in her chances?

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Venom Snake posted:

I highly doubt Le Pen is being honest about the protectionism stuff because the nationalists across the channel sure as hell weren't

Wait what? Next you're gonna tell me the neo-Nazis on speaking tours of US university campuses are doing something other than championing free speech.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Helical Nightmares posted:

How does this differ from the American election?

for one thing, there wasn't a viable leftist candidate in the US election; sanders was the closest thing, and was out of the race and endorsed clinton months before election day

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Helical Nightmares posted:

Addiction, chose one: Vodka, Krokodil.

you don't have to choose, actually

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

DutchDupe posted:

Based on Melenchon it looks like the left is big sad babies no matter the country, lol.

people who lose are usually unhappy about losing dude

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

White Rock posted:

lol yes, neoliberals, centrists and anarchists should all shake hands to STOP THEM POPULISTS!!!

When they're right populists, they should. Fascism is the most dangerous enemy of almost every non-fascist ideology, partly because of that populism. It seduces people into believing things like nationalism and the expansion of military power will fix their material suffering.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Oh, and neolibs and anarchists should shake hands to stop fascists when they're non-white, female, or queer because it's hard to build a counter-movement when you're deported, denied the vote, or dead.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
a lot of americans, including many dem voters, believe the contemporary democratic party is "leftist", or even "socialist".

most log cabin republicans are prolly just like your racist uncle, in that they uncritically accept that narrative and think clinton would've doubled their tax burden to fund free college tuition for foreign-born muslims or something.

like as long as you accept that homosexuals are just as stupid as everyone else, it makes perfect sense for rich gay men to be log cabin republicans.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

White Rock posted:

hamon is much further center compared to Mélenchon. Universal basic income, more democratic systems and the legalization of pot sounds to me like:



I dunno if I'd call UBI a "symbolic concession"

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

exmarx posted:

why are people acting like le pen trying to divorce herself from her party is a good thing

if we lived in a regular timeline I'd suggest because it can only hurt her in the election, since nobody intending to vote against her will fall for it and it might make people intending to vote for her think she's crazy or ideologically fraudulent

since we don't, and live in a bad one, I have no idea

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Condiv posted:

let me guess, the french press conveniently ignored all of macron's faults while blowing his opponent's out of proportion

yeah, you're prolly right, le pen isn't gettin a fair shake

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Vox Nihili posted:

i think he genuinely wants to ~undermine the evil dominant world order and uncover the deep state secrets~ but he basically partnered with lucifer to undermine satan, or something, i dunno if that makes sense i dont read the drat bible

then he's either stupid enough to think the literal richest man on earth is "undermining the evil dominant world order", or stupid enough to think he can take advantage of said man and come out the victor

I will personally pardon donald j trump if he drones the leak rapist

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I never get tired of this awful take.

yes, that's right folks: I'm unironically promising to use my executive powers to pardon the president of the united states, in the event that he extrajudicially slays notorious wikileaks founder julian assange, a thing I definitely would love to see happen + jack off too, which would renew my civic faith in our imperialist government

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Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

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