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Jan 10, 2013

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hello monitors thread, i need some advice

i need to prep a mobile-ish setup that involves 3 displays and my needs have been p well suited by p series dell stuff (i'm mostly doing financial/production/code stuff so no need for fancy gamut options)

thinking of grabbing another set of p2217h, is there anything stuff i should be looking at?

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BONGHITZ posted:

what does mobile-ish mean?

i need to be able to throw them in a pelican case and drive/fly/ship them around fairly easily

i'm mostly concerned with an easy to detach stand & general build quality, but i'm also looking for a price point that won't hurt too much if they get stolen or trashed

pagancow posted:

No color critical work on these but Dell tends to calibrate their panels off the lot to hit gamma 2.2 and a proper greyscale without any weird scaling or bullshit other manufacturers offer as "features"

yes, features like "modes" modes are codeword for "we did not calibrate this loving thing at all"

use case is mostly spreadsheets, databases & code so color calibration isn't an issue

surebet fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 4, 2017

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Salt Fish posted:

Ok, so you plan to look at it with your eyes for EVERY use case? Hm... better get a colorimeter just to be safe.

lol i spent half a semester with a laptop with a busted screen that had a ~10% dead spot and random rgb shifting

i just want to spreadsheets man

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ConanTheLibrarian posted:



How could you all have forgotten so soon?

oh god right off the bat that trackpad is cancer

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i figure this might be the place to ask, i'm thinking of getting one of those graphics tablet doohickeys and i'm wondering what was good a few few years ago. i'm not super interested in dropping a grand to make better avatars, so i'm hoping to find something fairly good refurbished or new old stock

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Silver Alicorn posted:

you might look into huion, I've heard good stuff about them

i did see mostly positive reviews, i'll keep them in mind

qirex posted:

get a used or refurb wacom, then if you actually use it [99% of people don't use them much at all] invest in a better wacom

is there a particular model i should be looking out for?

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sure, i'm in no hurry, anyhow 80% of my use case is making avatars so it's not like i'm doing mad science over here

to be clear though i'm looking for an actual display tablet, not the other kind, ideally in a fairly small form factor since i already have too much poo poo on my desk

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not gonna lie, that dell canvas looks neat

thanks for the link, good read

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HAIL eSATA-n posted:

what monitors do i want for workin at home doing non-graphical things

is it these: dell p2417h

i quite enjoyed that family of display doing financial/operations/coding, i had a set of smaller p2217hs at my last gig:


they lack a few features but for the price they're amazing

there's a healthy refurb market out there, if you're not in a hurry wait a bit and keep an eye on prices

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mishaq posted:

this setup sucks

i've been working with either 3x1p or 5x1p setups since ~2009 and i guess my workflows evolved around them, keep in mind that i tend to work with a bunch of windows open instead of a single one.

i have been meaning to stretch my legs a bit though and the more i look at the dell canvas or wacom 27qhd the more i want to try them out, even for not graphics applications i could see myself using this kind of setup (paired with a u3417w i think):


bit over my original budget, but since i was already looking at buying a travel setup and a graphics tablet, i could switch my home office setup to my travel setup and have something that suits my aesthetics for about a grand more than planned

good, bad or terrible idea?

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eschaton posted:

no it's this: P2415Q

(it's what I have and it's v nice)

http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/c7b71289f

p2417h
newer (2017)
cheaper (~200)
less better resolution (1920*1080)
dp in only, hdmi & vga in (no dvi)

p2415q
older (2015)
expensiver (~400)
more better resolution (3840x2160)
dp in and out, hdmi in (no vga or dvi in)

both should come with height tilt & pivot stands

the 2415q seems to have better colors and stuff but i don't really know about that stuff

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mishaq posted:

terrible windows pc

i'll grant you that

mishaq posted:

the low res monitors

and that

mishaq posted:

gross keyboard

i will fight you to the ends of the world here

mishaq posted:

if it works for you keep on keepin' on my friend

it does, i will, but i'm open to new ideas

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

lol you sit next to the copier and somebody's spare wardrobe

your office is literally a closet, like, to hang clothes in. you are held in the same esteem as brooms and rarely-needed pantsuits

lol they installed that printer because of me, part of that job involved creating training docs. i prob murdered a small forest.

not clothing in the back, textile samples. adjust your shaming accordingly.

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yeah

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heyo pagancow, i need a consult on the following products:
http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-u3417w-monitor/pd
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/dell-canvas-kv2718d/pd

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pagancow posted:

Wide displays are bad, I had to use one unironically for a week straight, and they are just never tall enough, and the extra wideness doesn't really help at all. Most games don't support the extra pixels, and you're throwing away extra GPU time on it since you never look at them.

The Drawing tablet seems iffy at best. There's no hardware LUT and they list absolutely no specs, so lets hope a thing you are supposed to draw on can create a gamma correct greyscale at least otherwise the whole thing is trash.

The drawable Centiques from a few years ago could barely do a proper grey scale, and the gap between screen and drawing was super bad.

:tipshat:

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since this thread is like catnip for video knowers, can anyone suggest a list of things to buy/know for decce youtube content? a client of mine needs to make not poo poo looking training material and they want to keep it in house.

assume the following:
- an employee familiar with photoshop/indesign/illustrator but not premiere/ae yet (so training stuff or online courses are welcome)
- single static camera positioning (mostly a shot of someone talking with intermittent cuts to on-screen workflow stuff)

known issues:
- lighting throughout the office is terrible; no natural light, heavy yellow/orange bias in wall paint, standard cheapo commercial fluorescent tubes
- they own a few cellphones with alright cameras (s7, iphone 7) so while it's not ideal, i don't expect them to be willing to pony up the cash for a nice dedicated one for now.

the immediate issue is lighting, is there a model or brand i should suggest? for the rest, any tips and tricks are welcome. tia!

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blowfish posted:

i have bad news for you

i only do photos and very small scale video stuff from time to time and i own several thousand worth of lighting equipment and flashes and i still often run into limitations

even if you just want decce amateur content that's not blatantly trash amateur content with production values lower than the average xhamster video, you should get several hundred bucks worth of lights with good colour reproduction (there's somewhat ok daylight flourescents if you want poverty-tier lighting) and large light formers that prevent excessively harsh shadows from light just coming from a point (i suppose propping up white sheets against things is the poverty-tier way here)

also your lighting won't be of the room lighting brightness variety, even if you go for the ghetto route and buy flourescents you will want to buy several hundred watts worth of them to get clean video

figured as much, the reason why they're holding off on a dedi camera is because they expected a four figgie expense in related stuff. got any links to stuff i can read up on to figure out where to go from here?

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Bloody posted:

what if you just shoot outdoors with daylight

i wish.

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bumpin' with another tangentially related question, assuming i need stock footage for a project and that i'm not into the whole $80-per-clip-oh-god-i-need-like-40 pricing model of shutterstock, what other provider should i look at, ideally with a flat monthly/yearly?

videoblocks @$100-$150/y seems good even though they don't have exactly what i was able to find on shutterstock, anything else i should look at?

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can someone run me through the pro/cons of a superwide display? i'm looking at the u3417w in a mildly color sensitive context and it looks needs suiting

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

sounds like someone should have """accidentally""" tripped and bashed some of that equipment

late, but that's basically what my college did

they had a deal in place with their supplier to get hardware cheaper with the condition that they had to purchase any consumables (bulbs in the case of the projectors) through them, and they had audit authority on the it expenses to make sure we were buying their hilariously overpriced stuff

new it director comes in, sees the contracts, says nope, gently caress that, and basically for the remainder of the contract whenever a thing had a consumable near it's mtbf they just removed it, replaced the whole loving unit (at a cheaper cost than changing the bulb in the projector's case) and binned the old hardware

supplier got wise half way through the remainder of the contract and threatened to sue, so about once a semester some poor computer janitor had to physically disable the hardware (originally by throwing it down a literal flight of stairs, though they eventually just started using hammers because lol @ cleaning up the mess in the stairwell) or arrange for student orgs (who depended on the college's it scraps) to steal poo poo

that department was... weird, but it made sense from a cash point of view apparently.

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ShinsoBEAM! posted:

why is it 24:10 instead of 12:5?

http://mentalfloss.com/article/76144/why-no-one-wanted-aws-third-pound-burger

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Bloody posted:

obvious solution: start selling fifth pounders

iirc big mac patties are 45 grams per, so it's basically a fifth of a pound combined

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Maximum Leader posted:

its actually very useful for panorama pictures

3840 x 600

yeah nah

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lol @ that 45 ppi on the weird lg

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boring office display chat: friend of a friend wants an external display for their mbp 2015 for non-color sensitive work, is there something better out there than a dell p2317h in the $150-$200 range?

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congratulations on your graduation to the no pants skype calls club!

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eschaton posted:

don't get a 1x display in this day and age unless it's for retrocomputing

especially if what you're attaching it to already has a Retina Display

a Dell 4K is like $400 and great

it's for a workflow that doesn't play well with a second display and space is at a super premium. plus retina display or not, 13" isn't a civilized screen size to work on when you're at a desk.

out of curiosity i'll still check them out if you have a part number, cheapest i'm finding for 3k is well over $400

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eschaton posted:

Dell P2415Q is US$429 list price, and available new for somewhere in the $350-$415 range on Amazon depending on the seller



:canada:

they are showing up at $400 on amazon.ca though, i'll add them to the list of stuff the end user should consider, thanks!

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