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He says specifically that they should constantly be questioning whether he is friend or foe. I think those instructions apply to the audience as well. Through forced advancement, he is guiding the evolution of humanity according to his own beliefs and values. By accepting all this, humans are exchanging their own identity and chance for self-growth for power.
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Tamba posted:Recap episode this week Why do they do that?
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May 19, 2017 17:18
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SystemLogoff posted:I think this is my favorite show of this season. Hot blooded scientist and all. In the dark future, there is no Canada.
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May 20, 2017 10:38
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This was a really interesting episode. The special effects were even a bit disorienting, which was an impressive feat. I'm curious as to what the consequences of the being becoming more human will be. Will he experience negative emotions and act irrationally at some point? How far will the pushback from the humans go? Will society accept the changes, or is humanity too unyielding? Is this even beneficial for improving the human experience, or does it simply destroy what it means to be human instead? There are lots of great questions here.
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May 26, 2017 16:26
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Condiv posted:you notice how everyone who came back out of the cube has red corners to their eyes like zashahui? Maybe it's related to the effects of the Sansa.
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May 27, 2017 03:13
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RottenK posted:That'd be pretty great because "actually there's no twist" is a twist on its own by now, and also a story about humanity being uplifted by a benevolent but alien creature that struggles with understanding us is interesting in its own right. One thing about this show that I dislike is that although they take a rational approach to their discussion, there are a hell of a lot of fundamental questions that no one is asking (at least on screen). Such as, "how well do you comprehend human culture?", "Why are you doing this now, and why so rapidly?", "Are there many of your kind?", "What is the roadmap for your whole plan?". You'd think a rational superbeing wouldn't be so hamfisted with the execution.
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May 28, 2017 02:22
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Nathilus posted:"Humanity desires information!" What if this is just a huge galactic prank show? "And then....and then I gave them a sansa and told them they could use it to connect with their "extra-dimensional selves"! You should have seen their faces! They were so high they started to puke, and then they decided to broadcast it to the entire planet! It was a riot."
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May 28, 2017 02:52
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Paracelsus posted:It's also not clear what the long-term psychological effects of not dreaming are, even if the sansa appears to neutralize the problems caused by lack of REM sleep. And even if it really does keep your brain from degrading by actively maintaining it, the notion of an engineered device, which could potentially have hidden functions or allow for someone to mess with it, controlling my neurological functions is deeply disturbing. Plus a lich has to keep a close eye on their phylactery for all eternity. I don't think it's supposed to work like that. It doesn't control your neurological functions, it just makes you recognize the other dimensions and develop an innate sense for it. Kind of like an optical illusion where once you see the hidden picture, it never goes away.
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May 29, 2017 23:16
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I wasn't especially fond of her argument against moving forward. Cultural exchange is a natural facet of humanity that we've engaged in since before we were even fully human. To say that what we have now is fine is an incredibly myopic viewpoint. Sure, the outcome might destroy humanity, but that's likely to happen regardless of interference.
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Jun 2, 2017 19:21
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Well that went in an interesting direction. The characterization seems kind of... off though. Shindo is definitely not living up to his reputation as a negotiator. He refuses to press ZaShunina on important questions and just goes along with whatever he wants. Worse, despite claiming to respect the autonomy of humans, he decides to kill Shindo the moment he shows the slightest bit of hesitation about entering a higher universe? edit: Actually, I think what annoys me the most is that this entire story could have been resolved with five minutes of discussion between people who were actually competent: "Oh hey humanity, I'm ZaShunina, and I come from a place outside the universe. So I know this is a major revelation, but your universe is basically on one of many servers that we designed because we were bored. The outside universe processes things really quickly, so we ran out of information to process, and started generating random permutations of reality to see what would happen. Out of nowhere, you guys popped up and started creating new data! We're not really gods since this was a complete accident, but we think it's pretty cool and we want you to keep doing your thing. I brought some cool odds and ends from my garage that we think you could use to do neat things with, and all we want in exchange is to keep monitoring you. Also, if any of you are qualified, we'd love to have some human consultants come back with us and shake things up a bit. I'll be in my box if you have any questions. Also, sorry about the plane crash, that was a total accident and I'll release them all in a month once they're safely able to do so." There Bias Two fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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C-SPAN Caller posted:That left turn loving sucked holy poo poo my philosophical first contact show turned onto loving anime bs It's like they had an interesting premise and gave up for the follow-through.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:35
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Za does not seem to be very intelligent.
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Jun 10, 2017 12:33
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RangerKarl posted:I paused on watching this show after they moved the cube and now I'm not so certain I want to pick it back up. It's manages to build up some interesting suspense before abruptly falling off a cliff.
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Jun 11, 2017 14:54
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booksnake posted:NEGOTIATION HAS FAILED From a purely pragmatic, alien perspective, it makes sense that you would want to allow humans to live independently. Influencing them might result in damaging their cultures and therefore their value as a source of novel information. If they were to align their values with the anisotropic, then they would no longer be different.
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Jun 14, 2017 04:32
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It still makes absolutely zero sense that he hasn't simply asked for volunteers. His actions seem nonsensical in light of his motivations, so I just found this episode confusing.
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Jun 17, 2017 03:52
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i don't really understand what this show is going for. what was up with all the pretending it was about negotiation when no one ever negotiated at all? Right? Anyone with sense would've flipped their poo poo the moment the alien decided to reconfigure the power grid as a demonstration without asking or explaining what he was doing first. What was the point of episode zero if negotiation has become irrelevant?
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Jun 17, 2017 09:41
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I thought they were actually going to bring it back around with the metalworkers and actually engaging in negotiations somehow. But it just looks like they're going to punch each other in front of fractal screensavers.
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Jun 24, 2017 04:20
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Apparently the right answer was to shed your humanity and willingly become an extradimensional being at the cost of most of your race.
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Jun 24, 2017 16:29
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Maybe he's going to wordlessly negotiate by locking lips with him. "This...this is what it means to be human, ZaShunina!" ".... Absolutely disgusting. I'm going home and flipping the switch on this poo poo."
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Jun 24, 2017 23:11
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That was...interesting only because of how nonsensical that was. Someone actually wrote out that entire script and said yeah, that makes sense, let's send it to production. Why would the anisotropic devices stop working without kado? The whole point was that ZaShunina revealed underlying principles of physics that allowed them to take advantage of the devices. Unless somehow the poo poo he gave them were effectively backdoored bootlegs that only worked with his permission. It seemed more like ZaShunina just went insane from his exposure to humanity...
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Jun 30, 2017 21:31
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The ending would've been better if some other beings showed up and gave him a scolding for disobeying the others. "He stole our what? Geeze, sorry about that guys. Kids, what can I say? You're going home now"
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Jun 30, 2017 21:54
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RottenK posted:what's the point of reading a thread about a show that you don't watch, especially if you quit it early on Sometimes the poster reactions are more entertaining than the actual show.
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Dragonatrix posted:So, uh, I just finished episode 9 and by all accounts I should probably just finish it at this point but man. The instant Hanamori asked Tsukai about her ring, I could tell it was going to finally be relevant... just, uh, not for "so, what if we decided to just be a low-effort version of the second half of Gurren Lagann now?" It gets worse.
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