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Dairy Days posted:there was another insane nuclear power idea / "design study" i forgot the name of where you basically make a huge underground cavern lined with concrete and fill it part way with water, then you detonate your old / left over nuclear bombs in it repeatedly and use the generated steam and heat to spin turbines wouldn't this just cause an immediate giant sinkhole? where's the force from the explosion supposed to go?
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I saw some study about squeezing coal in your hands so hard that it turns into diamonds. Also had some pioneering research into temporal mechanics
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Apr 29, 2017 19:50
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Condiv posted:wouldn't this just cause an immediate giant sinkhole? where's the force from the explosion supposed to go? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Condiv posted:wouldn't this just cause an immediate giant sinkhole? where's the force from the explosion supposed to go? love the groundwater contamination potential
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Apr 29, 2017 21:07
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Lamebot posted:love the groundwater contamination potential Just do it under a reservation
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Apr 29, 2017 21:08
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mister magpie posted:Just do it under a reservation Quick, somebody pitch this to Michael Bay!
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Apr 29, 2017 21:12
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The Cola War has gone too far.
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Don't forget Operation Plowshare, wherein we'd use nuclear weapons for civil construction projects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plowshare Need a new harbor? Just detonate a bunch of nuclear bombs! 
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May 1, 2017 14:31
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if radiation didn't exist that would kick rear end
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resar posted:if radiation didn't exist that would kick rear end If radiation didn't exist we wouldn't have radio
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If people's fleshy meatsacks were less vulnerable to cancer caused by ionizing radiation, we'd probably have nuke cars and space colonies and poo poo by now. Naked mole rats are pretty good at dna repair, I think, so just count your blessings that we got intelligence faster than they did, or space would be full of them. rudatron has issued a correction as of 07:39 on May 2, 2017 |
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resar posted:if radiation didn't exist that would kick rear end If we had non ionizable DNA.
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rudatron posted:If people's fleshy meatsacks were less vulnerable to cancer caused by ionizing radiation, we'd probably have nuke cars and space colonies and poo poo by now. That would be an extreme version of rolling coal.
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from a biological angle it's kind of doubtful anything with a DNA repair scheme much more elaborate than our own would have ever had the spare energy to get big brains and flexible niche behaviors the way we have. DNA repair is an energy-intensive process, and the one we have is really drat good for the few resources it requires. single mutations are handled by a backup copy, and double-mutations that corrupt both copies can be repaired through end-joining. it could be more effective a couple of ways, but all those ways require either some really serious glucose and lipid input (and therefore hurt our chances to survive mundane famine) or some really funky chemistry that makes our homeostasis a lot easier to shock. naked mole rats basically went the former route, but the extra energy they put into hostile environment survival left relatively little left over for brain size. brains are insanely energy hungry. prly doesn't matter in the long run, CRISPR will likely allow you to back up an idealized version of your DNA and allow you to undergo an IV treatment forcing it back into your body like a memetic virus in 30 years or something
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Coolguye posted:from a biological angle it's kind of doubtful anything with a DNA repair scheme much more elaborate than our own would have ever had the spare energy to get big brains and flexible niche behaviors the way we have. DNA repair is an energy-intensive process, and the one we have is really drat good for the few resources it requires. single mutations are handled by a backup copy, and double-mutations that corrupt both copies can be repaired through end-joining. it could be more effective a couple of ways, but all those ways require either some really serious glucose and lipid input (and therefore hurt our chances to survive mundane famine) or some really funky chemistry that makes our homeostasis a lot easier to shock. naked mole rats basically went the former route, but the extra energy they put into hostile environment survival left relatively little left over for brain size. brains are insanely energy hungry. Non trump admin naked mole rat question: why did naked mole rats need special DNA repair?
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good goddamn question! i certainly don't know the answer, i'm not even familiar with any theories that have been advanced to explain it.
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May 4, 2017 01:34
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radium gas is my best guess
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Baloogan posted:radium gas is my best guess I'm reading the wikipedia article and the biology involved is well beyond my crush depth The mole rat is such an odd clusterfuck of an animal - it has a social structure like ants or bees, can survive in environments very high in CO2, and doesn't have pain receptors in its skin I can see why mutated ones appear in Fallout
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living underground changes an organism. just look at baloogan.
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can you guys hurry up and do this already? my state is in a recession & has heaps of uranium
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Darkman Fanpage posted:living underground changes an organism. just look at baloogan. the morlocks all descended from someone
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Coolguye posted:from a biological angle it's kind of doubtful anything with a DNA repair scheme much more elaborate than our own would have ever had the spare energy to get big brains and flexible niche behaviors the way we have. DNA repair is an energy-intensive process, and the one we have is really drat good for the few resources it requires. single mutations are handled by a backup copy, and double-mutations that corrupt both copies can be repaired through end-joining. it could be more effective a couple of ways, but all those ways require either some really serious glucose and lipid input (and therefore hurt our chances to survive mundane famine) or some really funky chemistry that makes our homeostasis a lot easier to shock. naked mole rats basically went the former route, but the extra energy they put into hostile environment survival left relatively little left over for brain size. brains are insanely energy hungry. bro have you ever heard of petos paradox not saying that elephants are particularly radiation resistant but they are deffo cancer resistant which is what matters anyway
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:bro have you ever heard of petos paradox i'm not following what this has to do with the post you're quoting
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mister magpie posted:Nuke plants more like puke plants it is all stereotypically green and stuff
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:bro have you ever heard of petos paradox i read that as Pestos Paradox which is that there's no difference between good and bad pesto
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OK this is hilarious: The state of Georgia wanted to build two new nuclear reactors at a nuclear complex known as "Vogtle". South Carolina also wanted two new nuke plants. In 2007 construction of these plants started, with figurative nuclear giant Westinghouse dreaming of build all four plants as "modules" greatly reducing construction costs. The contractors for this are Toshiba, which bought Westinghouse (the company that popularized AC electricity!!) and another construction firm named Chicago Bridge & Iron Co . With energy prices spiking and worries about global warming, there was a shitload of federal cash to subsidize this project. These next generation plants were going to be more efficient and use interchangeable parts, driving down costs. It was supposed to be start of a atomic power renaissance It is now 2017. The plants are half finished and billions overbudget. Georgia has been "pre-billing" its customers to pay for the expansion for years, and will presumably continue to do so after the project is done. Westinghouse has declared bankruptcy. Toshiba is taking billions in losses. there are reasons for this
TL,DR: People tried building a bunch of nuke plants and it turned out very poorly, suddenly people are all like "renewables, eh?" https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/business/westinghouse-toshiba-nuclear-bankruptcy.html?_r=0 http://www.myajc.com/business/plant-vogtle-georgia-nuclear-renaissance-now-financial-quagmire/5l16IFMFICknSCeI7RXG6J/ http://www.economist.com/news/business/21719836-global-nuclear-power-industry-beset-problems-westinghouse-files-bankruptcy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/toshiba-s-nuclear-reactor-mess-winds-back-to-a-louisiana-swamp
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I was at a show and some guys said I looked like a dude in a band. asked me about myself. asked about NUCLEAR POWER when I mentioned my old job. it's amazing how much NUCLEAR POWER knowledge you can remember while high.
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mister magpie posted:I was at a show and some guys said I looked like a dude in a band. asked me about myself. asked about NUCLEAR POWER when I mentioned my old job. And you won't risk breaking national security for the amusement of several random strangers ITT :sulks:
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Nebakenezzer posted:And you won't risk breaking national security for the amusement of several random strangers ITT :sulks: I didn't mentioned classified stuff. just how it works. any fool can look it up.
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mister magpie posted:I didn't mentioned classified stuff. just how it works. any fool can look it up. I know I just never pass up a chance to sulk Question, what's the best part to describe while stoned? Reactor PW loops heating outside loops?
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Orb-Bed Reactor looking good
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nuclear power is totally safe unless you're extremely dumb with it, and we've proven repeatedly that we are
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"hey bill this new backup system seems to be triggering every single failsafe when we try to test it" "then our path is clear: shut down the failsafes" "what"
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Yinlock posted:"hey bill this new backup system seems to be triggering every single failsafe when we try to test it" lftr
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Yinlock posted:"hey bill this new backup system seems to be triggering every single failsafe when we try to test it" that happened once It was really bad, obviously, but still
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We build first a sarcophagus for it that inspired some visuals in Half-Life 2. Then an international consortium spent large amounts of money building a shelter for it that was so challenging and high tech PBS made an hour long documentary on the subject and I watched it
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