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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

R. Mute posted:

if only we had some sort of compass to show us the politics here

what if instead of a compass


a horseshoe :getin:

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The tkemali eater has logged on

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Grondoth posted:

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

If you can read this in english, thank a Stalin

Stealing this without attribution thanks

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Grondoth posted:

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

If you can read this in english, thank a Stalin

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

ty stalin 4 hiding in your datcha while you almost lose to a country half your size because you purged the officers

ty

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


actually he was well prepared for the invasion because he had his couch at the dacha bulletproofed

also waking up in the afternoon and spending most of his hours awake watching banned american movies and drinking with cronies was just part of his strategic genius

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Stalin bears no responsibility for the many, many atrocities committed during his time as General Secretary, because the Soviet Union was a democracy, not a dictatorship, with authority widely distributed, and inasmuch as mistakes were made, they were made at lower levels in the chain of command.

Also, Stalin was a socialist übermensch who single-handedly defeated fascism and saved us all from having to learn Japanese.

Thank you, Comrade Stalin!

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

Fallen Hamprince posted:

ty stalin 4 hiding in your datcha while you almost lose to a country half your size because you purged the officers

ty

look at this blatant wwii revisionism

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

Stalin bears no responsibility for the many, many atrocities committed during his time as General Secretary, because the Soviet Union was a democracy, not a dictatorship, with authority widely distributed, and inasmuch as mistakes were made, they were made at lower levels in the chain of command.

Also, Stalin was a socialist übermensch who single-handedly defeated fascism and saved us all from having to learn Japanese.

Thank you, Comrade Stalin!

it was a funny post you boring turd

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

Stalin bears no responsibility for the many, many atrocities committed during his time as General Secretary, because the Soviet Union was a democracy, not a dictatorship, with authority widely distributed, and inasmuch as mistakes were made, they were made at lower levels in the chain of command.

Also, Stalin was a socialist übermensch who single-handedly defeated fascism and saved us all from having to learn Japanese.

Thank you, Comrade Stalin!

This is actually what a lot of liberals and conservatives unironically believe about people like Kissinger, Reagan and Bush.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

R. Guyovich posted:

it was a funny post you boring turd

PYF Tankie Humor

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Agnosticnixie posted:

This is actually what a lot of liberals and conservatives unironically believe about people like Kissinger, Reagan and Bush.

Being murderous savages is ok if it's ratified in the plebiscite.

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015
KIlling people is bad *goes back to bombing countries out of the stone age*

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

resar posted:

KIlling people is bad *goes back to bombing countries out of the stone age*

You mean into?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

out of the stone age and into the rubble age

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Agnosticnixie posted:

This is actually what a lot of liberals and conservatives unironically believe about people like Kissinger, Reagan and Bush.

After Obama, Clinton and Trump the US can't call any other country out on "personality cults".

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Agnosticnixie posted:

This is actually what a lot of liberals and conservatives unironically believe about people like Kissinger, Reagan and Bush.

Jesus, it's a bit harsh to compare Stalinists to National Review types, isn't it? No need to take self-flagellation that far, surely.

Plutonis posted:

After Obama, Clinton and Trump the US can't call any other country out on "personality cults".

I just finished reading this great book, I think you might really like it!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

I just finished reading this great book, I think you might really like it!

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

Jeb! Repetition posted:

You mean into?

We must spread liberal democracy by any means to civilise the savages liberate the people of the mid east.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Plutonis posted:

After Obama, Clinton and Trump the US can't call any other country out on "personality cults".

there's this great story my Albanian co-worker told me when she was a kid in Albania every house had to have 2 portraits hanging on the wall one of Hoxha and one of Mao and I was like whoa at least they knew one asian guy in that country

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Bolivia's Morales Says OAS Is Best Instrument of US Imperialism

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Bolivias-Morales-Says-OAS-Is-Best-Instrument-of-US-Imperialism-20170426-0046.html

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
KDISDNW (Kulaks Deserved It, Stalin Did Nothing Wrong)

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Plutonis posted:

After Obama, Clinton and Trump the US can't call any other country out on "personality cults".

I think it's still pretty different from Stalin, Mussolini or the Kims.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016


the best instruments of imperialism are the ones you can unilaterally withdraw from

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:



I just finished reading this great book, I think you might really like it!

Why is Comrade only used for males in Korea? It sounds counterrevolutionary to me.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Rand alPaul posted:

Why is Comrade only used for males in Korea? It sounds counterrevolutionary to me.

Nah, they use it for both (e.g., page 3), it's just used very arbitrarily in the text.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Jeb! Repetition posted:

I think it's still pretty different from Stalin, Mussolini or the Kims.

the better comparison is to the founding fathers since the revolutionary leaders of the ussr and dprk were as integral to their countries' creation, and our capitol has giant statues of those guys which no one bats an eye at

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Lol read the book and then try again with the world's laziest false equivalency.

It's absolute garbage. You'll love it!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeBbD8c_uCk

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
unironically i think socialist retrorealism has potential

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

Lol read the book and then try again with the world's laziest false equivalency.

It's absolute garbage. You'll love it!

how about you try proving it's a false equivalency instead of farting all over the keyboard, dipshit

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

R. Guyovich posted:

the better comparison is to the founding fathers since the revolutionary leaders of the ussr and dprk were as integral to their countries' creation, and our capitol has giant statues of those guys which no one bats an eye at

Well that explains George Washington's embalmed corpse down the street from the White House

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Remember how everybody referred to Thomas Jefferson as 'Great Jefferson' and had a framed portrait of him displayed in their house?

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Well that explains George Washington's embalmed corpse down the street from the White House

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Remember how everybody referred to Thomas Jefferson as 'Great Jefferson' and had a framed portrait of him displayed in their house?

yeah, americans would never try to deify their foun

e: "The Apotheosis of Washington," Constantino Brumidi, 1865, US Capitol Rotunda

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

zeal posted:

yeah, americans would never try to deify their foun

e: "The Apotheosis of Washington," Constantino Brumidi, 1865, US Capitol Rotunda

Painted in 1865 my dude

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Painted in 1865 my dude

cited in the post you quoted my hillaryman

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
why are you even against this poo poo hamprince? as a clinton supporter you've worshiped a propped-up corpse for years now

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

R. Guyovich posted:

how about you try proving it's a false equivalency instead of farting all over the keyboard, dipshit

Okey dokey!

Your claim is that the "personality cults" of the Founders is comparable to that of e.g. the Kims. So I challenge you to go digging through all the David Barton-esque dreck that you like, and see if you can find something comparable to the following, chosen from a randomly selected page in the DPRK's official biography of its Dear Leader:

quote:

Comrade Kim Jong Il taught that the slogan of imbuing the whole of society with the Juche idea was the ultimate programme of the Party because this slogan elucidated the supreme goal of the Party and the basic way of attaining it.

He fully expounded important problems arising in imbuing the whole of society with the Juche idea as well as the essential ways for solving them. The fact that Comrade Kim Jong Il set the modelling of the whole of society after the Juche idea as the ultimate programme of the Party was an epoch-making event, an event of great importance in Party building and in the revolutionary struggle.

In his speech On Thoroughly Establishing the Party’s Leadership System, made at the Consultative Meeting of Senior Officials of the Organizational Leadership Department, and Propaganda and Agitation Department of the Party Central Committee, held on April 28, 1979, Comrade Kim Jong Il said:

“Establishing the Party’s leadership system means enforcing throughout the Party a revolutionary spirit and an iron discipline of carrying through the Party’s decisions and instructions unconditionally, and encouraging Party members to improve their appreciation of the Party organization and intensify Party life so as to fully ensure the Party’s leadership over the revolution and construction.” (Kim Jong Il, Selected Works, Korean ed., Vol. 6, p. 288.)

On May 10, 1979 Comrade Kim Jong Il made sure that intensive studies and short courses as well as large-scale controversies were conducted throughout the Party on the question of establishing the Party’s leadership system. Moreover, he saw that Party committees at all levels were strengthened and their functions and roles were improved in order to intensify Party guidance over the work of power organs, administrative and economic work, public security work, and judicial and procuratorial work.

Thanks to his energetic guidance, the fighting efficiency and leadership role of Party organizations at all levels were enhanced and the Party’s monolithic leadership over all spheres of the revolution and construction was fully ensured.

Fully realizing the position and role of the Party in the transformation of the whole society after the Juche idea, Comrade Kim Jong Il advanced the policy of modelling the whole Party after the Juche idea.

Transforming the whole Party after the Juche idea means making all Party members core elements of a Juche type, and conducting Party building and Party activity strictly on the basis of Comrade Kim Il Sung’s idea, theory and method. In the final analysis, this means making our Party a perfect party of the Juche idea.

The whole book is like this.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Stalin's successor literally gave a famous, landmark speech denouncing Stalin's 'Cult of Personality'

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

When Bernie takes over the Democratic party he'll do the same.

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