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Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
Finally caught up and I don't get this season at all. Season 2 ended on a huge cliffhanger and poo poo started going down but now season 3 started and just said 'nah' to all of that and everything is back to dicking around with Wednesday. I was kind of hopping they were skipping Lakeside because in the book the whole thing dragged on forever, didn't affect the greater plot at all and in general was the worst part.

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Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
That has to be the strangest possible musical choice for a big gay orgy.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
The more I stew on it, the more I think gently caress this season.

Belqis: Promiscuity is bad, and something shameful that was forced upon you by men. It is impowering to reject this.
Salim: gently caress shame, promiscuity is good and impowering. Also lets set it to the cringiest background music possible.

These opinions brought to you by the showrunner who fired Orlando Jones because "Mr. Nancy’s angry, get sh*t done (attitude) is the wrong message for black America"

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I feel like a show about all the behind the scenes stuff would be more interesting than the actual show.

Orlando Jones has been pretty open about how lovely he was treated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJwCN7AS6g
This really put this season's kinder, more gentle African gods into perspective for me.

Kung Food fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Mar 10, 2021

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

The Last Call posted:

I have thoughts on the episode.

So did the whole town know that Ann was the killer/mystic creature that was helping the town? The sheriff knew since he went right to her home. It seems weird that the town would be so friendly with her if they knew that she was you know, killing people even if it was to help them unless she was making them forget. Speaking of killing people, how does it make the town prosperous if you are killing members of it's teenage populace randomly every few years? Seems the opposite of prosperity. More a curse.

They all had a back of the mind itch that something was wrong. but they buried it because isn't my little slice of small town Americana so swell? The book was written in 2001, right at the height of the economic decimation of the rust belt so it went more in depth about how the entire surrounding area was falling into crushing poverty because of the exodus of American manufacturing, except for this one quaint jewel that prospered. Said prosperity was because of Hinzelmann, and that Lakeside would suffer the same fate without her. This arc ends in a rather dower note because now that she is gone the town's continuing fortune is over and Lakeside is destined to fall into the same decline as the surrounding towns. The teen sacrifice is akin to ye olden cultures that perform sacrifices for bountiful harvests or some such, but replace wheat with small town charm. In the show the reason the sheriff dues ex machinaed into her house is a good ol' fashioned plot hole, just some bog standard bad writing. In the book she overheard Shadow talking to him about what he had found and attacked.

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Did Doyle turn down killing Laura because he saw her and fell for her immediately leading to him suggesting Sweeney? Starting to think so. Could explain why he's helping her, that or he wants to know what was Sweeneys friendship with her but betting on the whole love angle. A Leprechaun lucky coin, how powerful does that make a person to have? Lucky as hell sure but what happens if a God got it? A super lucky God sounds like a bad thing, which makes you wonder why others haven't hunted them down for their coins. Or maybe it's less beneficial for Deitys?

My take is he didn't want to kill her because it was a monstrous job and he is helping her because that garbage person destroyed my coin so gently caress him. Also he might be a bit sweet on Laura. As for Gods with a coin, Mad Sweeny was a proper god in his own right. He was mother loving Lu, which if you know Celtic mythology at all means he was an All Father type and their equivalent of Zeus or Odin. Which makes his god story one of the sadder ones, because first the Christians came and demoted all the Celtic gods to kings/heroes, (They wanted to keep the traditions and folk lore but couldn't abide other gods) then over time they were further demoted to spirits and fey creatures, and the final disgrace they became whatever General Mills made them. Doyle probably has a buried place in the Celtic pantheon as well. Oh and its been pretty well established that the coins can only be given, not taken, and leprechauns usually have them safely stored in their vaults, so no point in other gods hunting them.


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There is a problem with Wednesday going to make a truce with the new Gods, namely it feels like he really hasn't gotten many for his cause. Mainly due to the cast going but it really feels like he is pretty much right back to step one, maybe two despite everything that's happened.
Going back to square 1 should be the title for every first episode of a each new season. It feels like they are trying to indefinitely stretch out what should have been three seasons at most.

Kung Food fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 17, 2021

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
So be for I gather my thoughts, I just want to say... UGH. The story arc of this season is just... bad.

There is a massive difference between the con of the book and show, and I think it is because the show wrote itself into a corner so had to settle on something much dumber and less interesting. Massive book spoilers, don't read if you plan on reading the bookIn the book the long con was that Wednesday would insight a massive, winner takes all, final climatic battle between the old gods and new. At the start of the battle, someone would throw Gungnir across the center and declare that this battle was dedicated to Odin. This means that Odin would be impowered by every god death, old and new. Odin is a war god, so other gods dying in his name would be extremely potent, beyond what he would get with mortal tributes. That was the whole reason he put so much effort into recruiting old gods from the start. They were all just sacrifices for his level up, from Mr Nancy to Czernobog. Mr. World AKA Loki, recruited from the other side. Shadow's role in all of this was to be a distraction while Loki and Odin did their thing.

They also made Shadow's time on the tree way less interesting. He was seriously just roped to a tree without it stabbing him with branches (although a book only enemy did stab him with a branch he was sent to retrieve). Instead he goes on a trippy vision quest where he: makes friends with a mythical squirrel, talks with the Egyptian hawk god Horus, talks to a still zombified Laura where he refuses her help in being cut down, hears color, and is sent to the afterlife and given the choice were to go, chooses to be nothing, but is later forced back to life by Easter and Whiskey Jack (Who was way more important in the book and I feel like the show didn't do him justice).


If anyone is confused what the hell the Norns are, they are the Norse version of the fates of Greek/Roman myth and also the Zorya sisters of Slavic myth we see in the show.

Zoben posted:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes Laura. I think Emily Browning is really attractive but I wouldn't be watching a show for a stupid superficial reason like that (yeah man, this show has got some HOT CHICKS on it dude). I've never seen her in anything else and it's interesting that she's Australian and Ricky Whittle is English --
I knew her before American Gods through "A Series of Unfortunate Events," which means I only knew her as a child actress. Lets just say her sex scenes were uncomfurtable for me.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Khablam posted:

In which case, definitely go watch Sleeping Beauty and live-blog your reaction.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
The few episodes I watched of Fringe gave me a "X-Files but with a daytime budget" feel. Does is get better?

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Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
I doubt Jones wants anything to do with a Gaiman work ever again.

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