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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011


Seriously? You couldn't wait more than 3 posts before immediately disregarding the OP and diving into 'can't wait and see what happens' book chat? This goes for everyone else doing it too, you suck.


Longbaugh01 posted:

Well between Black Sails and this, I know I'm going to start paying more attention to Starz original programming.

If you haven't seen Spartacus you really should just drop whatever you're doing and go watch that instead. It has an unfathomably terrible first episode (that I'd advise just skipping because covers nothing that also isn't covered in episode 2) but its one of the best paced drama/action shows ever put to television and pretty much kicked off the goodwill for Starz on this forum.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I'm going to be the rear end in a top hat here and say that whoever called that the maneater scene was unfilmable was right. That scene was absolutely ridiculous and not in a good way.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

dogmother1776 posted:

http://imdb.com/title/tt1898069/parentalguide?ref_=m_tt_stry_pg

American Gods : Parents Guide
Episode 1. Sex scene in which nude man is sucked inside nude woman. Nothing explicit, topless female nudity only.

You should probably just replace the op with this. No further context needed.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Johnny Truant posted:

The Bilquis scene in the first ep was acceptable. Another one... not so much.

Are they just gonna have some people get vaginahobbled every episode, as some weird fan service? :confuoot:

I'm just going to assume it's some producers personal fetish porn at this point because these scenes are awful, especially when contrasted to the rest of the show.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Wait, so the Ifrit became the guy? Why is death by one-night stand such a persistent theme in this show?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Dr. Clockwork posted:

I actually read the article and I'm shocked that it wasn't some alt right outrage piece, but more just straight (heh) journalism about the filming of the scene.

The alt-right outrage is in the comments.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I'm glad Vagina Eater was just completely forgotten about in this episode.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Cojawfee posted:

The first guy the vagina lady eats has his dick out.

I think it was more dick in actually.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

precision posted:

The TV IV › American Gods: That's a lot of penises.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I think we might have topped Spartacus in violence now.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Elentor posted:

Also, something that I'm thoroughly enjoying about the performances is how the Gods absolutely cannot help but be overwhelmed by their portfolios. Monroe has to bring Mr. World "back" from the high of recalling the life of Shadow and his mother, and for a moment the illusion that he's a human disappears. At the same time she can't help but speak in quotes and put on an act. I feel like even if the act is planned and part of her plan, she's as much a slave from the need of putting the act as she is on control of her powers. While they're all drowning in their eccentricity, Wednesday is more collected and more "human" and has an experience that the others God don't. But even Wednesday can't help but follow his predetermined personality.

I like it. While the gods can serve their own interests they are ultimately beings created by humans for humans. Media especially in this regard is interesting because as you noted she can't help but harken back. Her heydey already came and went, she's associated with the dying medium of television and her symbols are all throwbacks because that's all humans still value of her. At some point she will fade from memory as Technical Boy takes her place. Mr World is similar, they're all based on current cultural phenomenons but what they lack is that missing link between phenomena and mythology. The old gods might be weaker, but they've all carved a mythological niche where either their myth (Anubis's first death) or symbols (Anubis's second death) will persist and thus preserve their value to at least a part of humanity. Media, World and Technical are, just like the Mammoth god at the start of the episode, products of their time and environment. Like all young gods before them they are stuck in a race to leave their mark on humanity, or be forgotten.

I'm kinda curious how the major world religions slot into all of this but considering that the Jesus's were already foreshadowed I guess we'll get there eventually.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

muscles like this! posted:

I don't think you're supposed to take Media as waning in power seeing as she effortlessly beats the poo poo out of the Technical Boy.

You could read it as Media being baby boomer while Technical Boy represents millennials. She might be more powerful at the moment but that's only until her believers quite literally die off. If her power was anything more than a fig-leaf of the past then the two media symbols put on display this episode wouldn't have been those of several generations past (who are incidentally both dead), they would have been of today. Remember, she didn't appear to Shadow through a smartphone, she had to wait until he passed an actual TV. Just like real-life traditional media she is a powerful but fading institution that is about to be upstaged by something she neither understands or respects.

muscles like this! posted:

They take belief and sacrifices but they will give something back in return (like in the first episode where Odin gives the Vikings their wind) while the New Gods just take and take and take.

Doesn't this apply to sex-eater as well who I just realized just mysteriously vanished after the first episodes.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Mr World definitely seems like Globalization. He's too current to be capitalism but also too market-oriented in his speech to not be related to economics

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Normal Adult Human posted:

the norse are the most brutal fucks in history and their gods represent that. they invented rape.

No.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

double nine posted:

... that episode felt a bit ... disjointed?

So the same as every other episode then

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

GonSmithe posted:

No, I think crazy Christian idiots in Texas are absolutely forming death squads to kill the Mexican rapists coming into our country illegally.

Stop spoiling the real world, I've only gotten to June of 2017 here.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Zaphod42 posted:

Feels like nothing happened this whole episode. The opposite of last episode :(

Things that happened this episode, cab driver went his own way and the rest of the sideplot team were in a car accident. To call the plot's pacing glacial would be generous.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

LesterGroans posted:

Yeah, I don't really care that the main action hasn't progressed a lot. If I hadn't read the book I might not even notice it too much.

Besides, Schreiber and Browning are really, really good together, so it's a fun watch.

I haven't read the book and I do mind the pacing.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

LesterGroans posted:

Ok. I have and I don't.

I'm glad we could clarify this so soon in the relationship.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Gorn Myson posted:

I might not be remembering this correctly, but I'm pretty sure the main character in You're The Worst speaks RP, has a posh double barrelled surname but was born and raised in working class Manchester to a family of cockneys.

Pretty much.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Crow Jane posted:

I like Bilquis, and would happily worship the disco version in particular.

Nu uh sorry, you get goofy CGI baby-man-devourer Bilquis of episode 1 & 2 fame.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Because to some degree these choices were clearly made to be as edgy has humanly possible.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I have literally no idea what even happened.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

MiddleOne posted:

I have literally no idea what even happened.

Guys?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

ZorajitZorajit posted:

This isn't a measured review of the season, and I say it respecting that a great deal of the show just isn't for my pale, cishet dude corpulence, but I'm kind of wearing out on the show. The scene with Bilquis, Ibis, and Anansi was great; but all the scenes of World menacing Technical Boy, Technical Boy menacing some rando are becoming tiring. Did the book have this much shouting? Was it this disjointed and ephemeral? I don't remember that, but maybe it's been a function of needing to focus on more that just Shadow.

It's the atrocious pacing. Superficially things are happening on screen but the plot is just not moving.


Like in this episode:

a: World threatens TB to fix something or else, then he or else's TB for no clear reason anyway.

b: Money oh god money. Tons of time spent to have a dialogue where Money basically went 'lol no bye' and nothing was achieved.

c: African god trio have a fun scene but in a vacuum with no clear connection to anything else going on.

It's all build-up and no pay-off.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

God this show is so boring. Can just please something happen.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Honestly why did this get renewed.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Ovenmaster posted:

Speaking of plot, does anyone really give a poo poo about the actual 'war', though? You want a giant gently caress-off battle on some field, with a hundred million dollar special effects budget? I just don't get what people actually want from the plot when they say it's not going anywhere.

If you don't want to tell a story about a war then don't use a war as the driving element of the story. All of these characters are supposedly doing what they do in service of this war. But we're not shown a war, it's not really clear what the stakes are in such a war nor even really who the focal characters are. We're told it's Wednesday and Mr World, but from what's happening in the episodes they seem like side characters in their own story. Shadow is introduced as a or the main character but he's been shunted to the side while other characters go on side-adventures. What even was the episode when tech-boy got shunted.

If I'd outline my problems with the show it's that there's no pacing, there's no clear stakes and there's no focus. The last season finale upped the stakes, only for the show to immediately deflate them again after the first episode of this season.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Apr 8, 2019

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

So bored with this season. Could something please happen already.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

An entire episode devoted to exploring a character that had never been introduced, discussed nor who will likely ever matter again.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Episode was bad. The show continues to build towards nothing.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

mycomancy posted:

I just don't get the complaining about this show in this thread. How many of you, before this episode, knew any version of the Buile Shuibhne? There is so much mythology and social commentary on this show but apparently there's not enough explosions or some poo poo?

I just don't understand y'all sometimes.

It's not about action, it's about pacing. There's one episode left of the season and still nothing significant has happened.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

MiddleOne posted:

It's not about action, it's about pacing. There's one episode left of the season and still nothing significant has happened.

Actually let me explain what I mean by significant:

1. Everyone goes hunting after tentacle rape gods support who has never had a role in the story before but then he gets killed, doesn't lead anywhere.

2. Wednesday goes looking for the money god who has never had a role in the story before but he wants none of this poo poo, doesn't lead anywhere.

3. New media usurps the best boy and he gets mind-trapped/killed, still hasn't lead anywhere and had no clear consequences.

4. We spend several episodes finding a spear and even get a whole back-episode explaining why it's broken (aaaaagh just why), literally gets magicked out of existence before it does anything.

5. Sweeney has an entire episode devoted to explaining his backstory in details, albeit not really telling us anything we didn't already know, and then he dies literally not 5 minutes later.

Nothing ever sticks, nothing ever leads anywhere and nothing ever happens. We still have zero pay-off for even the stuff that was set up in the first season.


EDIT: Also character building in the episode you're killing off the character just to make the audience care is such loving lazy storytelling. We should have been getting these backstories a full season ago, not literally the episode the character dies. The show has had all the time in the world to set up these characters, why is it happening in the style of a last-minute info-dump that grinds everything to a halt.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Apr 22, 2019

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

To the people in the thread apparently watching this as an anthology style show, I'm very happy for you that you've found a way to enjoy the show, but you're insane. Unless if you're posting from an alternative universe, that is objectively not the format of the show and if that was the intent they're doing it very poorly.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

That's like the most pointless spoiler tag. I have no idea what it is referring to anyway.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

END ME SCOOB posted:

Legion and Westworld both loving cratered for me in recent memory.

Ironically they're also very similar to American Gods. Big budgets, great casts, solid work on a strictly technical level and an interesting but at times underwhelming first season. Then season 2 comes and it's nothing but a big wet fart that has no idea what it wants to say or where it's going.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

That sure was a whole lot of nothing as a season ending.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

What staggers me is that the whole cop/media thing was the season finale and not like the inciting incident of episode 3.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Did the show get cancelled yet?

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