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When I was playing Hong Kong I hit upon the idea that my runner had picked up an unflattering nickname after a mission went south. It paid off.
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That reminds me, fun fact about naming your character: The character limit isn't actually 12. It's 110.
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Apr 25, 2017 09:45
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Kanfy posted:That reminds me, fun fact about naming your character: The character limit isn't actually 12. Magic 
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Apr 25, 2017 12:08
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LightWarden posted:If you're going to be a Decker then you've got the Intelligence to make Drones your thing. You could be human but that's boring, so might as well be an elf lady. And if she's going big on computers and drones while operating out of Seattle then you might as well call her Amazon. I vote for this but don't like the name as is. How about Amazon Prime instead?
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Apr 25, 2017 12:18
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I'd like this to be quick and painless so I'm gonna vote for a Troll Shotgunner. I kinda like Draig for a lady's name. Alternately, we could make full use of the character limit and come up with some kind of decking/computer related joke like filling the thing with ones and zeroes. There's gotta be someone tech-savvier in the audience though. e: Should add I love this series of games to bits even if DMS happens to be a just a lovely example of what to do with the campaign creation tools. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 12:58
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Kanfy posted:That reminds me, fun fact about naming your character: The character limit isn't actually 12. I'd like to see the face of my GM if someone told him that's his runner's name and demanded it be said in full every time. Of course if he was serious I'd bludgeon him to death with the rulebook.
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anilEhilated posted:Alternately, we could make full use of the character limit and come up with some kind of decking/computer related joke like filling the thing with ones and zeroes. There's gotta be someone tech-savvier in the audience though. Oh, I'm sure someone could come up with something. Which is exactly why I set the limit to 12. I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I know the wily ways of the people here.
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Oooooh. Welp, there goes that idea. Sorry, can't read. Probably why I enjoy these games so much.
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Apr 25, 2017 13:53
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I think we can officially close the voting here. And so a result, we will be playing Xander77's character under a different name, the female elf decker who uses drones and is known only by her handle Amazon. Congratulations to LightWarden who got exactly what they wanted, meaning nobody else's vote really ended up meaning anything. The system works. And I finally get to play the video game, so that's cool. Update probably tomorrow, maybe today if the stars align real well.
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I was actually considering trying an LP of Dead Man's Switch back in December, but it fell through. I do agree with pretty much everything that's been said about this game- it's not bad, great in some places, but Dragonfall blows it out of the water. I actually was going to use nearly the exact same character voted for here- female Elf Decker, but with more of a focus on Rifles over Drones. There's just too much content that's locked behind Decker powers to be anything but for at least one playthrough. I'm also the worst kind of Shadowrun fan- never even touched the pen and paper game, since Shadowrun's reputation as being nearly impossible to DM for means no one wants to lose their sanity. I've also had back luck at finding an online game for it. Someone asked about Adepts earlier. They are pretty bad in this game, but became unholy killbots in Dragonfall and Hong Kong. But I'm definitely going to keep an eye on this, given how much I loved this game.
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GoneRampant posted:I was actually considering trying an LP of Dead Man's Switch back in December, but it fell through. I do agree with pretty much everything that's been said about this game- it's not bad, great in some places, but Dragonfall blows it out of the water. I actually was going to use nearly the exact same character voted for here- female Elf Decker, but with more of a focus on Rifles over Drones. There's just too much content that's locked behind Decker powers to be anything but for at least one playthrough. Shadowrun is impossible to DM in the same way that 3rd Edition D&D is impossible to DM. The fundamental math does not work, statting up an adversary exactly as you would a PC is a tremendous waste of time, combat exists in a binary state between "you do nothing" and "you one-shot them," and entire subsystems are tragically busted in and of themselves, let alone where they interact with the main engine. Much like 3rd Edition D&D, the secret to being a good DM is to figure out how many dice a Vaguely Challenging enemy is and throw that number of dice when appropriate and consider the mechanical side of things settled.
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GoneRampant posted:I actually was going to use nearly the exact same character voted for here- female Elf Decker, but with more of a focus on Rifles over Drones. There's just too much content that's locked behind Decker powers to be anything but for at least one playthrough. I did predict that the character would end up being female and a drone-user, but I was actually a little surprised about the popularity of elves since everyone always seems to complain that they're the worst. I was about 70% sure we'd end up with a troll after I mentioned how they make for the worst Decker. I guess when you have a setting where pretty much everybody is a dick, you might as well be a decent-looking one. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Ze Pollack posted:statting up an adversary exactly as you would a PC is a tremendous waste of time
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You don't stat adversaries in SR tabletop, you say "he has 12 dice because he's the run boss" and move on. Or you just have another squad of faceless security guards burst into the room, it's not big deal.
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Kanfy posted:That reminds me, fun fact about naming your character: The character limit isn't actually 12. You're telling us this now? I'm changing my name vote to 'In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since. "Whenever you feel like criticizing any one," he told me, "just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had."'
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anilEhilated posted:I'd like this to be quick and painless so I'm gonna vote for a Troll Shotgunner. I kinda like Draig for a lady's name. I mean, if one wants to go with a techy name that doesn't blow up the character limit, one could always go with a hex word. I'm sure 0xA1337E1F would have gone over great on Shadowland.
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Poil posted:More like 10/10. No need, just throw him into situations where someone needs to communicate some vital information to him quickly. "Hey Shibba-dibba-ding-dong-bam-boom-bam-boom-groop-broop-bon-bada-bon-bada-bon-shalalalalalala-beep-beep, watch out for that grena—oh. Oh dear. Too late. Hey Eddie, could you help me wipe these fragments of Shibba-dibba-ding-dong-bam-boom-bam-boom-groop-broop-bon-bada-bon-bada-bon-shalalalalalala-beep-beep off my armor?"
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I usually go with the handles from the movie Hackers as my Decker Shadowrun handle. ZeroCool, AcidBurn etc... Either that or LongshoremanX
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Apr 25, 2017 17:27
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Kanfy posted:I was about 70% sure we'd up with a troll after I mentioned how they make for the worst Decker. I just wanted a hacker that hacked things by slamming their deck through the screen. Also to try and live up to the flavor text's race description. Because, "Heavy prejudice against them has led people to think trolls have lowered intelligence, but in reality there is no proof to this" made me laugh so hard when it was immediately followed by that dismal int cap.
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Kanfy posted:I did predict that the character would end up being female and a drone-user, but I was actually a little surprised about the popularity of elves since everyone always seems to complain that they're the worst. I was about 70% sure we'd up with a troll after I mentioned how they make for the worst Decker. Elves also get a bonus to Charisma. Since talking is a huge thing in these games, that tends to make them a popular race. That and, IMO, they're the best race for most builds.
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GoneRampant posted:Elves also get a bonus to Charisma. Since talking is a huge thing in these games, that tends to make them a popular race. Well, elves get a "bonus" to Charisma. Unless I completely misunderstand things, what happens (at least with this "new" Shadowrun trilogy) is that you start with one more point of Charisma than normal. So if you're building a character with a custom class, that means you get 2 Charisma instead of 1 to start with, meaning that you saved a grand total of 2 Karma. Alternatively, you can pick Human, and get 3 free Karma to allocate however you wish. And it's not like you're going to hit the stat caps at 9 anyway.
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GoneRampant posted:Elves also get a bonus to Charisma. Since talking is a huge thing in these games, that tends to make them a popular race.
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TheMcD posted:Well, elves get a "bonus" to Charisma. Unless I completely misunderstand things, what happens (at least with this "new" Shadowrun trilogy) is that you start with one more point of Charisma than normal. So if you're building a character with a custom class, that means you get 2 Charisma instead of 1 to start with, meaning that you saved a grand total of 2 Karma. Alternatively, you can pick Human, and get 3 free Karma to allocate however you wish. This is correct. It's also tempting to think that elves are best at guns because of the higher quickness cap but you'll never get up there. Especially not in Dead Man's Switch. Edit: Poil posted:In pnp they're also the best at being mages by far and the only non-human race that doesn't have any stat penalties or drawbacks in any way. Just lots of advantages. Naturally they're the second cheapest meta type to be too. Only human is cheaper since it's the base that costs nothing. Freaking dandelion eaters. Why is every fantasy game made by Elf Supremacists? I want to see just one game where a big ugly ogre is the best at everything. Cathode Raymond fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Tax Refund posted:No need, just throw him into situations where someone needs to communicate some vital information to him quickly. Just have everyone immediately call them Shib, as it would go irl
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Cathode Raymond posted:Why is every fantasy game made by Elf Supremacists? I want to see just one game where a big ugly ogre is the best at everything. Dwarves are actually the best mages, not elves, and you're not playing a troll right if you can't laugh off a railgun to the face and bench press a truck. Elves are just fast and good looking, which admittedly gets them a long way.
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Cathode Raymond posted:Why is every fantasy game made by Elf Supremacists?
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wiegieman posted:Dwarves are actually the best mages, not elves, and you're not playing a troll right if you can't laugh off a railgun to the face and bench press a truck. Elves are just fast and good looking, which admittedly gets them a long way. Poil fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Poil posted:Dwarves do get their +1 for drain rolls with all magic traditions but elves get a freaking +2 on a much more useful stat and you still have a ton of charisma based traditions to chose from. The only drawback is that dwarves are better at soaking damage and people are more prone to aim for a fancy pansy elf bastard. Sorry, I meant in SRR. You're absolutely right about tabletop, letting elves take charisma traditions is crazy.
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wiegieman posted:Sorry, I meant in SRR. You're absolutely right about tabletop, letting elves take charisma traditions is crazy. 
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The only fond memory I have of playing SR tabletop is that I had a human with maximum Edge, mediocre Pistols, and Astral Beacon. I flavored him as a BTL Junkie who thinks he's a character in an old western, but he's so impossibly, supernaturally lucky that not only does he get away with it, he lights op on the Astral Plane like a Christmas tree. He got iced on our first run because a revolver's effective range of 60' isn't exactly helpful when there's a sniper on the other end of a canyon. I haven't really played with that GM since.
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Ah. Dick GMs. The worst kind. the only kind :[
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Figures. Got a contact list so dead our only lead is from beyond the grave.
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Kanfy posted:I was about 70% sure we'd end up with a troll after I mentioned how they make for the worst Decker. FoolyCharged posted:I just wanted a hacker that hacked things by slamming their deck through the screen.
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This LP got me to pick this back up. I finished Dragonfall and Hong Kong, but never did get all the way through this one. Playing along with the LP, though I'm quite a ways away from the start now. Interested to see where you put your Kharma, I ended up rolling with rigging and rifles.
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Gonna lurk this. [spoilers]Plays shadowrun in actuality does the krab[/spoiler]
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Kanfy posted:but I was actually a little surprised about the popularity of elves since everyone always seems to complain that they're the worst.
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Kanfy posted:I did predict that the character would end up being female and a drone-user, but I was actually a little surprised about the popularity of elves since everyone always seems to complain that they're the worst. I was about 70% sure we'd end up with a troll after I mentioned how they make for the worst Decker. Troll decker with a minigun is compleatly viable build at least in future expansions. Though i had to install cyberware up my rear end to do it as well just to get the STR reqs for the minigun. Cant remember if this one even had a minigun though. The 6 limit in decking isnt a big deal since decking isnt hard to require the 7 decking rig.
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I booted up this game again due to this, and started a Street Sam run through. No spoilers for late-game stuff but let's just say now I remember why I only played SR:R all the way through once. Still a solid game, but... I much prefer Dragonfall and Hong Kong.
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RickVoid posted:This LP got me to pick this back up. I finished Dragonfall and Hong Kong, but never did get all the way through this one. Playing along with the LP, though I'm quite a ways away from the start now. Interested to see where you put your Kharma, I ended up rolling with rigging and rifles. Most of our Karma's inevitably going to go to decking and drone stuff, though I'll probably skip ESP Control since it's not really needed. Maybe we'll dabble in some minor magic stuff at some point. Iretep posted:Troll decker with a minigun is compleatly viable build at least in future expansions. Though i had to install cyberware up my rear end to do it as well just to get the STR reqs for the minigun. Cant remember if this one even had a minigun though. The 6 limit in decking isnt a big deal since decking isnt hard to require the 7 decking rig. Yeah, a troll Decker can get through all the games just fine. Being a troll Rigger is more actively shooting yourself in the foot since not having access to the top-end drone stuff hampers you more than not having the Fairlight Excalibur with a Decker. Das Panzer posted:I booted up this game again due to this, and started a Street Sam run through. No spoilers for late-game stuff but let's just say now I remember why I only played SR:R all the way through once. Still a solid game, but... I much prefer Dragonfall and Hong Kong. I do too, but DMS is Kanfy fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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