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Genjis in QM are so easy to bait out with a Li Ming it's insane. Ryujin no ke-ENEMY SLAIN
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Genji v Li Ming is so disgustingly in Genji's favor so it's even funnier.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:02
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exquisite tea posted:How are Li-Ming and Sylvanas doing in the current game? They're my favorite heroes to queue with but it's hard to tell if I'm doing the right thing. For Li I usually go full Arcane Orb for megadamage and with Sylvanas I take all her quiver talents + her slippery escapes like Will of the Forsaken and the one that gives you movement speed whenever you spam arrow. Sylvanas is always going to be good for the "win more" factor letting you get max value out of a team fight by pushing forts hard. Always a solid pick and especially good on maps where the objective directly pushes down a lane. Li-Ming is still really good *if* you're good at aiming her spells without being caught out of position. Although she's lost some value in the double-warrior meta, where her burst damage isn't as useful since you have high hp dudes blocking your shots all the time. Much like Valla, her win rate is lower than it should be because she's played by idiots and is heavily punished if she's caught where she shouldn't be. Also, you can cancel disintegrate early and it's often a good idea to do so!
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Apr 26, 2017 15:04
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Gustav posted:Heroes like Varian just fundamentally poo poo all over all the QM matchmaking rules. Even if they only allowed Varian vs Varian mirrors you'd still have the same problem every time one of them specs Taunt and the other doesn't. It kind of sucks because there isn't really a great solution for QM matchmaking rules just because QM is always going to be a crapshot. Lots of people play the mode though so ideally they should revert the rules changes for sonya/tassadar and maybe tyrande too. Varian is always going to be a problem so the only sensible solution there is if someone queues into QM as varian he just automatically gets slotted into matches where everyone else is a stealth hero also instead of ever putting more than 1 stealth hero on a team it should just make them play in stealth heroes only matches
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Apr 26, 2017 15:18
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I don't know why they never went with a matchmaking system like, everybody gets 2 points. Conventional tanks get 2 tank points. Hybrid tank-assassins get 1 tank point and 1 assassin point, and so on for every hero. When you queue up, teams are all matched to be roughly equal in their distribution of points.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:27
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Kashuno posted:Genji v Li Ming is so disgustingly in Genji's favor so it's even funnier. Yeah but QM Genjis are all pro Genjis. Though I gotta admit I've seen what a good Genji can do to a Li Ming. HelixFox posted:Also, you can cancel disintegrate early and it's often a good idea to do so! Yeah especially don't blindfire it into a reflect.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:27
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RIP 120k gold in one hour. The new map is actually very good because nobody knows how to play it. If you have a strong sustain hero or a good duo, then you can stop the enemy payload in the middle of minion pathing and soak/deny the enemy team forever while the rest of your team escorts your payload. I've had multiple games with 3+ level leads and then it becomes impossible for the other team to win. You only need 1 or 2 people who know what they are doing and the rest of the team will usually instinctively go to the payloads in QM, so it doesn't even require a ton of coordination. Edit: Also, the merc camps give a chunk of XP when captured. People tend to ignore them because the tokens aren't amazing. If you just do a delay+soak strat you will win 90% of the time in QM. Everyone else wants to die heroically throwing themselves at the payload. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 15:29
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I kind of wish HotS was anything besides a MOBA because I'm totally down with RPing as my favorite Blizzard characters and opening lootboxes with pretty princess clothes in them, but hate the actual act of playing this game.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:34
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Thanks, overwatch memes thread.
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exquisite tea posted:I kind of wish HotS was anything besides a MOBA because I'm totally down with RPing as my favorite Blizzard characters and opening lootboxes with pretty princess clothes in them, but hate the actual act of playing this game. Don't play games you don't enjoy, doofus.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:48
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Doflamingo posted:Don't play games you don't enjoy, doofus. Well, I don't. I've barely put any time into this, just logging back in to open boxes and dress up my characters. It would be cool if you could send out your heroes to play matches for you like the Order Halls in WoW.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:49
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The only way to win video games... it not to play.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:56
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Cassia is very fun and of course I'm not very good at her either. Anyone have any hot strats, builds, so on and so forth?
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Apr 26, 2017 16:03
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Mind over Matter posted:Cassia is very fun and of course I'm not very good at her either. I got her out of a loot box and I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would. Lightning ball ult is just really fun to use. What are her good builds? I've been primarily doing a Q build with sometimes doing a blind heavy build if the enemy team is mostly auto attackers.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:04
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Mind over Matter posted:Cassia is very fun and of course I'm not very good at her either. Anyone have any hot strats, builds, so on and so forth? All fend talents, the auto-attack activate skill at level 1, and ring of the leech. Just poke with javelin and autos and strongly resist the urge to fend until you get them below half health. Then blind + fend combo, one last javelin, and run away. Also: Activate the auto-attack buff every chance you get. It lasts 8 seconds and has a 20-second cooldown. It also causes attacks to jump to heroes, so you can use it for extra range (attack a minion in front of a hero) or to pick people from behind walls/gates (hit the wall or gate and it will jump to the hero.) Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 16:05
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Gustav posted:Remember how garbage infernal shrines was before people learned to bait the punisher? Now it's one of my favorite maps. Shrines was garbage because it only took 30 minions to clear the Shrine, and they didn't scale health over time, and the Punisher had too much HP, and leaped to a random hero instead of the closest one. And Arcane Punisher lazers did super ridiculous amounts of damage. Then they changed all that and Shrines suddenly wasn't garbage. Amazing how that works.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:09
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biznatchio posted:This is my standard Sylvanas build; but against passive healers like Brightwing and Lucio it's probably better to build Q instead. (Or just use this build anyway then get all smug about topping the charts on the scoreboard and blame your team for everything at the end of the game.) What you linked is basically her best overall build except for the level 13 talent. You should give Windrunner a try because it blows every other talent on that tier out of the water both offensively and defensively, and it synergises better with the rest of her kit than life drain.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:49
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:All fend talents, the auto-attack activate skill at level 1, and ring of the leech. Fend was garbage before the buffs, not sure how it is right now. Ring of Leech is pretty much the only required talent tbh.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:52
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So as a brand new player, are there "builds" that are the best for certain characters? or can you just build them situationally without completely gimping yourself. I've been playing around with Support characters so far and I just want to make sure I'm not picking stupid talents.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:56
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Got zero legendaries out of the 17 epic crates I received, then leveled up Leoric afterwards and got two out of a regular crate. Guess I have to start playing Samuro now that I have his Jade Monkey King skin.
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Apr 26, 2017 16:56
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m.hache posted:So as a brand new player, are there "builds" that are the best for certain characters? or can you just build them situationally without completely gimping yourself. I've been using the Icey Veins guides on the heroes and it's been working out pretty well for me. There might be other places that do it better idk. They have different builds depending on how you want your hero to work. I've heard hotslog tossed around but that site wants you to turn off ad blocker to use it, similar to how Forbes operates and well. No.
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I started playing last night for the first time since the launch window because I saw stuff about the game overhaul and needed to kill some time. I ended up getting a Tracer Skin in my free boxes so I decided to try playing her and it was pretty fun. Are there any tips for her? Recommended builds? e: I also felt real  when I dodged Nova's ult with Blink and killed her when fighting over a map objective.
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Apr 26, 2017 17:00
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m.hache posted:So as a brand new player, are there "builds" that are the best for certain characters? or can you just build them situationally without completely gimping yourself. Depends on the character in a lot of cases. I know hotslogs gets mixed reviews but it shows winrate and pickrate by talent which is a decent guideline for "best builds". Once you learn the characters and maps better there are definitely situational talents to take (e.g. you may want a spell shield if the enemy team has 3 casters). General rule of thumb though - just commit to a build in game. If you are buffing a characters Q ability, take the talents that synergize with the Q. It usually not as good to have a bunch of slightly ok talents rather than one really strong ability.
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Primetime posted:Depends on the character in a lot of cases. I know hotslogs gets mixed reviews but it shows winrate and pickrate by talent which is a decent guideline for "best builds". Once you learn the characters and maps better there are definitely situational talents to take (e.g. you may want a spell shield if the enemy team has 3 casters). Thought as much. The pitfalls I've been falling into so far have been with Tassadar and Rehgar are I build them as support but then find my teammates are not killing poo poo fast enough so I start going into their more DPS oriented talents. Mind you I've only been playing AI games so far but my current interaction with players as a support character have been disparaging. "There are minions just demoing our base. Stop chasing the heroes into their Towers!"
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:I got her out of a loot box and I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would. Lightning ball ult is just really fun to use. There are two builds I tend to go. If I'm against a team that doesn't have a lot of autoattacking, I'll go a Q build with pretty much every javelin based skill (and ring of the leech) and hang back throwing tons and tons of piercing, splitting, javelins of death. If they are heavy on autoattackers, take the skills to increase your blind damage and your fend skill. There is something to be said for the auto-attack skill but I am not good at using it properly.
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IcePhoenix posted:I started playing last night for the first time since the launch window because I saw stuff about the game overhaul and needed to kill some time. I ended up getting a Tracer Skin in my free boxes so I decided to try playing her and it was pretty fun. Are there any tips for her? Recommended builds? The only ones that I think are must picks are Level 7: Jumper - having an extra blink on demand is crucial for getting kills or not dying Level 16: Locked and Loaded - master this one, all talents on this tier are flat damage increases but this one is the highest with the highest skill requirement. Level 20: Total Recall - allows you to take damage during a team fight (diving in for a grenade for example) and then continue fighting after recalling
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So did we lose out on loot boxes for leveling before 2.0? I'm 94 but only had 6 common and 9 epic boxes waiting for me. I realize it doesn't really matter much now that there's no cap and leveling is a flat scale, but I just want to make sure I understand the new system. Every time a hero levels I'll get a box, common, rare or epic depending. If it's the hero's 10th level there'll be bonus Legendary with a character themed item.
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Apr 26, 2017 17:21
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Polio Vax Scene posted:The only ones that I think are must picks are Excellent, thanks. How does Locked and Loaded work? The talent description just said something about properly timing my reloads but doesn't say what that timing actually is.
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Apr 26, 2017 17:23
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Ciaphas posted:I wonder if any of the trainees are streaming HotS as they learn or whatever. I used to like watching Scarra back in the day This is from a few pages ago, but yes, part of the deal is that that both the trainees and coaches are streaming, and then the trainees will stream when they actually start soloing HL. That said, I watched Dyrus and the guy Dunktrain was coaching for a bit, and the coaching is pretty chaotic. My only comparison is what Day9 is doing on his channel, where he has a DOTA player giving him weekly lessons. Granted the lessons are designed to not just teach Day9, but everyone watching, so his coach has slides and clips prepared and after a few games, he analyzes the replays. With this, they are pretty much just duo queuing into unranked and learning as they go, which is fine, but not quite the same.
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Whenever your current clip runs out or you reload, now you'll have a little bar in the bottom of the screen. |===========--------------------[]--------| The [] will quickly move to the left, as long as you hit D while its in the left side, you'll get the bonus damage.
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Apr 26, 2017 17:27
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The new way of displaying your account level is such poo poo. Sad in an otherwise great patch.
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Musluk posted:Fend was garbage before the buffs, not sure how it is right now. Plate of the Whale is on par with or even better than Ring given certain enemy team compositions where you can get quest stacks easily. It plays to her strengths much better and therefore does great against the types of teams you want to be facing with Cassia (AA, multi-hitting AA, slows rather than stuns). Ring is better in her worst situations (few or no auto attackers, lots of stuns/roots) but you shouldn't run into these outside of QM. I guess you might also consider getting Ring if another person with blinds, like Artanis or Johanna, is on your team. m.hache posted:So as a brand new player, are there "builds" that are the best for certain characters? or can you just build them situationally without completely gimping yourself. Icy-veins is a good starting point but if you can stand the ads I would use it in tangent with Hotslogs to experiment with different choices during a match. There are a lot of factors that can go into talent choices and your own playstyle can be a huge one. Using Hotslog winrates to find other viable talents within a tier and questioning your standard talent choices can be a useful exercise if your looking to improve your game. BattleHamster fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 17:36
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Got the "This is Jimmy" voice line, time to spam this horribly outdated hero
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BattleHamster posted:Plate of the Whale is on par with or even better than Ring given certain enemy team compositions where you can get quest stacks easily. It plays to her strengths much better and therefore does great against the types of teams you want to be facing with Cassia (AA, multi-hitting AA, slows rather than stuns). The actual survivability boost from ring is much better than whale. Not to mention the fact that you get the full effect of the talent at level 4 and don't have to rely on other heroes attacking you for the quest. Being able to restore 35-50% of your health in a fight (sometimes multiple times during fights if they are extended or other team members have blinds) provides you with much more effective HP and survivability than 10 HP per second and 200 health.
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I'm very bad at this game someone pls play with me.
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Eraflure posted:Got the "This is Jimmy" voice line, time to spam this horribly outdated hero The Jimmy smiles upon me today, just got the Stars and Stripes skin
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exquisite tea posted:I kind of wish HotS was anything besides a MOBA because I'm totally down with RPing as my favorite Blizzard characters and opening lootboxes with pretty princess clothes in them, but hate the actual act of playing this game. My friends and I just beat up on the AI while playing with our blizzard heroes and skins. An old Dark Age of Camelot guildmate convinced three of us to join her and a friend of hers in quick mode last week where we promptly got destroyed, causing her friend to leave in disgust. He saw we were level 40 and thought we might know what we were doing haha. I stick to Overwatch and Smite arena/assault for my pvp fix.
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a witch posted:I'm very bad at this game someone pls play with me. /Join sagoons Type that in lobby chat. If chat is dead because you play during odd times of day, /join mfpt or /join reddit. Not as chill but marginally better than pubs, and they'll friend you for the event credit.
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BattleHamster posted:What you linked is basically her best overall build except for the level 13 talent. You should give Windrunner a try because it blows every other talent on that tier out of the water both offensively and defensively, and it synergises better with the rest of her kit than life drain. I do go Windrunner any time we have a healthy advantage by level 13. It's just I spend many games in QM where having a healer and a tank is a luxury; and I've found it can be difficult to get value out of Windrunner without dying unless you have one or both. biznatchio fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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