Heroes of the Storm 2.0: Pounded in the butt by my own team comp

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exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

drat, gonna have to play this game again to get that Koreacop D.Va skin.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 21:17

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 12:02

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

How are Li-Ming and Sylvanas doing in the current game? They're my favorite heroes to queue with but it's hard to tell if I'm doing the right thing. For Li I usually go full Arcane Orb for megadamage and with Sylvanas I take all her quiver talents + her slippery escapes like Will of the Forsaken and the one that gives you movement speed whenever you spam arrow.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2017 14:18

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I don't know why they never went with a matchmaking system like, everybody gets 2 points. Conventional tanks get 2 tank points. Hybrid tank-assassins get 1 tank point and 1 assassin point, and so on for every hero. When you queue up, teams are all matched to be roughly equal in their distribution of points.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2017 15:27

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I kind of wish HotS was anything besides a MOBA because I'm totally down with RPing as my favorite Blizzard characters and opening lootboxes with pretty princess clothes in them, but hate the actual act of playing this game.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2017 15:34

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Doflamingo posted:

Don't play games you don't enjoy, doofus.

Well, I don't. I've barely put any time into this, just logging back in to open boxes and dress up my characters.

It would be cool if you could send out your heroes to play matches for you like the Order Halls in WoW.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2017 15:49

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Luminous Cow posted:

I've gotten more zarya skins than I care to count, even though I've never played as her. At least I got some bitchin Johanna skins and deputy valla

What are the good Johanna skins? I thought everything looked kind of bad compared to her base model.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 07:46

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Ciaphas posted:

I got the red version of that yesterday

... unfortunately I'm really really bad at frontline tanks. I don't really know what to do in a fight, or how to start one.

Johanna is a solid tank pick in an uncoordinated group because she can initiate while also being very difficult to kill on her own, so the rest of your team can completely abandon you and you'll still probably get out alive.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 20:47

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Kai Tave posted:

After experimenting with a number of different warriors I think that to me Johanna is probably the quintessential tank. Like, there are tanks with better initiation abilities (Anub'arak) and there are tanks with better inherent crowd-control (Diablo, Muradin), and I suppose there are even tanks that are more resilient (Chen), but simply in terms of someone who creates an area around themselves and says that if you step into that zone you're gonna have a bad time, it feels like Johanna is the best at simply being this walking impediment to everything the enemy team might want to do.

Johanna is good because she doesn't require much coordination to perform her role well. You can dive right into an enemy team, and even if your allies totally abandon you, she's slippery enough to escape unharmed most of the time. There's also generally no bad time to use her abilities, they're all effective for team fights, wave clear, whatever. The only thing she can't really do is surprise you with damage.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2017 12:06

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

The hoverbike models are obnoxiously huge. Morales practically gets stuck in a t-pose while riding them because of all her gear.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 12:56

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I mostly solo queue for draft and Sylvanas seems like a pretty well-balanced pick. She can push, she can kill, and she can escape all to varying degrees depending on a few talent choices. Very good force multiplier on team fights but can also succeed alone. I think she's a safe choice when you don't know what you're getting and just want to be effective.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 13:29

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

He's definitely a top tier announcer pick.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 13:50

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

QM is the official "game doesn't matter" mode and you personally will almost never contribute to your team's wins or losses, as that was more or less decided at the hero select screen.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 15:25

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Philip Rivers posted:

I think people don't like stealth characters because they're ashamed of getting owned too hard

Acknowledging that you are bad at video games is the first step toward enlightenment. For it is only the noob who thinks he is good.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 15:56

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Removing stealth from a hero brawler game with characters known explicitly for their cloak was never gonna happen.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 16:57

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Fellatio del Toro posted:

Remove the shimmer, replace it with a cardboard box.

Really sick of having to base my entire hero selection around a poorly telegraphed, brown cardboard box with legs under it that barely sticks out from the terrain.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 17:06

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I think unranked draft is the better option if you want to mess around but don't want the clownshow 5 assassin groups of QM.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 19:27

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

You should just be able to pick 5 of your heroes and make them play the game for you as the AI opponents that co-op only players queue up against.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 21:06

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Lemon-Lime posted:

Ugh, really? I hope all they're doing is baking Caduceus 2.0 into her trait somehow, because she's completely fine the way she is.

The only thing Morales needs is some better contouring on dat thick rear end.

# ¿ May 2, 2017 15:06

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Musluk posted:

And a proper sitting animation on the vulture mounts.

It's honestly pretty funny to see Morales stuck in a t-pose because her armguards are so huge.

# ¿ May 2, 2017 16:31

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I don't think there's anything wrong with Braxis other than it being a little too similar to Dragon Shrine, which is better. The SC music is very cool.

# ¿ May 4, 2017 21:02

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Morales is one of the few supports I actually enjoy playing.

# ¿ May 7, 2017 17:48

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

p-hop posted:

Li-Ming's restore on cooldown and some of Illidan's kit remind me of Blood Seeker from dota. I like his gank playstyle much more than invis/stealth gankers. Your entire purpose is to eat heroes through sheer power, you can smell their spilled blood and live for the hunt. The second they choose to flee is the second they choose to die. Li-Ming is more Tiny-like, you can smear heroes if you land all your skills. If you do, you are ready to turn another hero into jelly in 10 seconds or whatever. Talents that give you a huge boost on hero kills are a big gamble, but worth it if you can chain hero kills together.

Li-Ming is especially good for QM where teams do you the courtesy of getting themselves killed off one by one.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 09:27

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I think the payloads stay up for too long on Hanamura. If your team gets shut down on the exchange then you shouldn't have more than a minute to get on the objective. Would rather it just be "only the first payload to the finish line gets to attack the core" while ensuring that their paths always cross each other.

exquisite tea fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 8, 2017

# ¿ May 8, 2017 13:56

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Kashuno posted:

Every second you stall the enemy team without dying is an advantage for you. If you have someone who can pretty easily juke in an out, even a second or two stalling the enemy payload while you finish up yours is a few second advantage for later payloads. 10s per payload that you manage to not die can add up pretty quickly.

The payloads stay on the map too long for stalling to accomplish much. You can wipe the floor with the enemy team for the first round and it doesn't matter, if they push it 10 minutes later they're right back in the game.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 15:14

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Mind over Matter posted:

No, he's really loving boring to play.

He's no Lt. Morales, that's for sure.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 16:19

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Mind over Matter posted:

I honestly don't know if this is a dig or not, but for whatever reason I find Morales way, way, way more interesting to play.

Morales is a really good and fun hero.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 16:36

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Mierenneuker posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlrAD_fkZ74

That's cool, wasn't expecting Self-Destruct to be her E.

I wonder if it's usable for a split second after you're kicked out of mech form, similar to how it works in Overwatch. I am contractually obligated to play D.Va in any game she appears in so I'll have to get good with her no matter what.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 18:21

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

bamhand posted:

Is D. Va no longer a professional Starcraft player and just a generic gamer now?

Last season D.Va had a mock profile on the SC2 ladder page, but I think she's always been just #1 gamer in everything in addition to Starcraft.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 18:29

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

myron cope posted:

I can't watch the video with sound, what does defense matrix actually do?

Reduces all enemy damage in an area. Usable while moving but D.Va can't attack while it's active.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 18:43

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

D.VA WILL ALSO HAVE AN ANNOUNCER PACK :siren:

# ¿ May 8, 2017 18:58

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

With these changes to Tyrande I fail to see how she's still labeled as a support. More of a damage-amplifying specialist with a tiny heal.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 19:22

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

PTR means the new patch is probably going in on the 23rd, correct?

# ¿ May 8, 2017 20:29

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Kai Tave posted:

D.Va lacks hard CC but shouldn't her ability to literally bump people back if they're in pursuit of a teammate help her peel?

D.Va's not going to be peeling allies so much as disrupting the enemy deathball and getting teams out of position.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 20:37

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

What about when your mech is destroyed, does D.Va still have a second to hit self-destruct like she does in Overwatch?

# ¿ May 8, 2017 20:52

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Khorne posted:

Why not just press it right before the mech dies?

Well in Overwatch it's so that you can keep D.Va fighting on the point until the very last second, just wanted to see if the functionality was the same in HotS.

Abroham Lincoln posted:

Yes.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 21:03

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

BrianBoitano posted:

Agreed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmAZjmf6ZaE

Amazing.

# ¿ May 8, 2017 22:12

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

I've gotten to play all of two games as D.Va thanks to PTR queues but I think she's going to be really fun and simply infuriating for pug teams to kill.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 01:06

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

Fuzz posted:

Pilot D.Va maining seems like it will be the meta. Big Shot immediately struck me as the goto Ult for her. The dash that lets you go through people as a pilot will just add an escape to her, and then you just focus on cooldown and boosters and your tank becomes a glorified mount with an hp bar to soak people's rotations before you self destruct and blow their faces off while they're on cooldown, then dash away and jump back into your tank as your escape.

Just a few games screwing around with D.Va but Bunny Hop is really good and combined with her D-Matrix talents that increase duration + give it a slowing effect she is basically impossible to retreat from.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 01:55

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

chumbler posted:

I've been trying to think of times you wouldn't want bunny hop and about all I've got is big shot might be better for mines, hanamura, and maaaaybe spider queen. Big mobile aoe slow and damage is just too valuable compared to faster mech cooldown, unless big shot's damage is really high.

Plus if you take GG WP as her level 16 talent you only have to be near a dead hero to get an instant reset on the mech.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 02:31

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 12:02

exquisite tea: Apr 21, 2007; Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

100% of the teams you'll see on PTR will have Alarak/Tyrande/D.Va and I can say that a good Alarak will be very frustrating to play against. His stupid silence thing lasts forever and he does some pretty scary midrange damage for a melee assassin.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 15:20

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