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Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I got 3 legendaries in my free chests. One of then was the rad Arthas skin that turns him into an Pandaria style dude and makes all of his abilities jade instead of ice. Another one was the legendary horse that matches his outfit.

This is exciting to me because I play Arthas a lot!

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Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

1stGear posted:

Unsurprisingly, Hanamura is a complete clusterfuck with pubbies. I imagine it'll improve as people get more familiar with the map, but right now yeesh.
It's a weird map, it doesn't really play like anything else and a good strat isn't readily apparent yet.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I hope they don't do map vetoes but I also hope they fix Garden to not be awful

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I like BHB because there's a tension between holding coins or risking turning them in and getting them stolen from you.

Really the only map I think is total garbage atm is Garden. And it's easily something they could rework to be fine.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

BrianBoitano posted:

Update: it reverted to 30 today. Ah well.

Yeah mine was 90 when I first logged in yesterday but now it's 30

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I love Tassadar, but I feel bad queuing for QM with him because he's the the equivalent to a healer :(

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

lordfrikk posted:

I don't like playing him and it's not really a solution.

Is stealth actually a problem though

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

We don't need another two pages of smug nerds saying stealth isn't a problem for them.

I'm genuinely asking, I usually see the blur and just throw something at it

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I played a lot of Nova in beta, and back then her deal was she could absolutely devastate individuals, but the tradeoff was that she had no laning ability and no ability to hold objectives. Did this change, because I constantly see pubby Novas trying to do both of those things.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Kai Tave posted:

I get that HotS is a different sort of game than Overwatch but it still seems like "let's make a character that can't push lanes and can't contribute to objectives" still isn't really a great basis for a character to begin with.

In fairness, one shotting Jainas was hilarious

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I think a lot of the stealth chat is hyperbolic as hell, but i didn't realize the graphical settings can make the shimmer not appear, That IS a problem.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

Yeah they're garbage characters who make the game more annoying, and telling people what game types they should play or to play heroes they don't find enjoyable is not cool. It's a video game, it's supposed to be fun.

I don't know why y'all are so eager to defend these heroes that make quick match worse, it's weird video game elitist poo poo.

Nova is garbage now, and Zeratul and Valeera are both under a 50 percent win rate.

Like... I'm not trying to be a dick, but if there's a Zeratul or Valeera on the opposing team, you should be aware and play accordingly just as though there were any other flanking character

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

I didn't say they won games, I said they make QM more annoying.

Tons of heroes make QM "more annoying." Personally, Hammer drives me up a loving wall.

You know who are good Hammer counters? Zeratul and Valeera.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I just don't understand how people think they can trick others into thinking "spend the entire match looking for the hard to find shimmer" is fun and rewarding gameplay for everyone involved.

I just don't understand how people think they can trick others into thinking "spend the entire match looking for <Genji/Tracer/Dehaka/Falstad> is fun and rewarding gameplay for all involved."

Flanking is literally part of the game. If you're Jaina and you're at the enemy gate alone, and you know there's a stealther or ANY of those characters on the enemy team, you are misplaying if your eyes are not peeled.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Genji is definitely in every QM game right now, just like Tracer was in every QM game at OW launch when she came out.

I honestly don't see Zeratul very often.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

beejay posted:

I don't believe this is true at all. Pro players play on low settings and I don't think they would give up seeing stealth shimmer. I know it works on high/ultra settings. Maybe somewhere in the middle, but I highly doubt it.

Oh someone said it a few pages ago when the "stealth is op" chart began

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

In my opinion it would have been easier and better to just not include it at all. It's impossible to go back in time and see if less people would be playing the game without stealth characters. It IS possible to see the amount of complaints about them and the adjustments Blizzard has made to deal with that.

You could say this about literally any mechanic

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

quote:

Developer Comments: We feel that Valeera needs a small increase in power to help her overall win rate, but are hoping to do so without adding much more burst damage or disabling effects. The changes to her Health and Basic Attack damage should give her a boost, while the changes to Talents, Ambush, and Garrote should create harder decision making for the Rogue. While we were looking at her Health Regeneration, we noticed that it was actually higher than intended (most Heroes take 480 seconds to regenerate their entire Health pool), which is why we reduced it slightly. We’ve increased the duration on Cloak of Shadows so that predicting Abilities is easier to accomplish. We want it to be a rewarding, high skill-cap ability, but with the old tuning it struggled to compete with Smoke Bomb.

I'm not seeing where the devs are saying Stealth was the problem with Valeera. It's the CC and burst

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

Not really, because not every mechanic is so controversial.

You should have been around for Abuthur launch.

Stealth has been around since Alpha. The only time people generally complain about it is when one hero that happens to have stealth is OP. It was Valeera this time. Zeratul and Nova are fine now.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Please tell me how Stealth is functionally more powerful than Tracer or Genji

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
This conversation is making me want to go buy Valeera because I already opened a rad demon hunter skin for her

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Hot Smart ARYAN Girl posted:

Well, at least someone gets it.

I get it, it's just a nonsense argument. TONS of heroes are hated and "make QM annoying." There is nothing special about stealth heroes that makes them "more annoying." They are functionally identical to any ganker that is playing well.

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I'm not going to try to talk about perception of fairness and avoiding controversy when the only response is irrelevant false equivalencies and "u mad bros"

EVERYTHING is "unfair" to someone. Why isn't the character select screen just Raynor? That would be the MOST fair.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
If we want to talk about new player perception, I see a ton of bitching about Morales in QM. That beam that is just constantly healing looks obnoxious to newbies.

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
HotS 2.0: Gently Pounded in the Butt by the Undetectable Glimmer of Stealth

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
If you think about it, this week's Brawl is the most balanced experience and they should just replace all characters with Tracer

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Why do people keep saying mobas, the acronym is FARTS (Free Action Real Time Strategy)

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
The best skin in the entire game is the Sonya one that turns her into Cable from X-Men

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

IcePhoenix posted:

I tried a heavy defense build for Artanis last night and now I don't understand why anyone would ever play him differently. Though now I have to decide if I want to keep playing him enough to drop half my gold on him.

He's really good, you should buy him.

Also forge his red samurai skin because it owns.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I spent way too much money on this game prior to 2.0 so it feels like half my legendary drops are just "400 shards!"

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
How does it feel being an unstoppable god slaying all in your path

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
yeah dawg 91.7 percent is a real good win rate

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Sjonkel posted:

Downloaded this after not playing since probably beta. Having surprisingly amounts of fun so far!

I have 5 heroes, so I'm guessing I should go for the flex bundle? Normally I prefer support characters in these types of games, but having a bit of everything might not be a bad idea either.

Also, will goons on discord actually play with a complete noob like me? Would be nice to get those 5 games needed for the weekly quests.

If you like support, I'd go Support and Specialist bundle. Specialist is kind of a catch-all word for anything that doesn't fit the other 3 words, and there's a TON of variety among them

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Ugh, got a daily quest today to play 3 AI games. That is sure to be a lot of fun being at level 290

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Just played the damnedest HL match on Hanamura.

Dude picks Azmodan and tells us he's going to push all game and that Azmo has a 69% win rate on the map. He proceeds to get farmed the entire game while destroying their bottom row of forts between 10 deaths. The game ends in our victory like 11 minutes and change in, with us down 2 levels pretty much the whole game.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Orthodox Rabbit posted:

I've seen Xul's who push really hard consistently perform pretty well on that map. It seems really easy for him to quickly push down forts and get the extra core damage.

Any specialist that can push hard dominates that map. People don't seem to understand that each fort taken is 1 fewer payload that needs to be pushed, which is huge.

I've actually won multiple games where a sieger pretty much fed all game but still took forts and we'd win with a 2 level disadvantage.

It's really a poorly designed map

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Bogart posted:

Sombra is all about the silences, I'd imagine, and at-will +movement speed stealth for her mount.

I'd be neat if they made her meta and let her hack HotS itself for buffs or debuffs

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

I don't think I like braxis. It feels like dragon shire and old skull mines

My problem with Braxis is that it's tiny so it forces teamfights pretty much from the start. I hate anything that encourages level 1 teamfights because they are generally pointless.

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Does the level thing really matter though?

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I not only hate the idea of a veto, I also hate the idea of a map rotation at all. The thing that differentiates HotS from other MOBAs is the battlegrounds. That's the tactical tradeoff for not worrying about item builds or separate xp levels.

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Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
How's playing with goons attitude-wise? I'm a lovely silver player and it's really really annoying listening to people throw giant fits at the first setback in every game.

Would I learn something from goons or just get more annoyed?

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