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Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

vi /etc/systemd/system/systemd_is_cool_and_good.service
systemctl enable systemd_is_cool_and_good
systemctl start systemd_is_cool_and_good

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Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
what i'm seeing here is

- yes, rc is a bad init system
- but actual human beings cannot be trusted to build the better thing to replace it

cf: market economy

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

mishaq posted:

vi /etc/systemd/system/systemd_is_cool_and_good.service
Warning: Unit file of systemd_is_cool_and_good.service changed on disk, 'systemctl daemon-reload' recommended.
systemctl daemon-reload
systemctl enable systemd_is_cool_and_good
systemctl start systemd_is_cool_and_good

vim /usr/local/etc/rc.d/systemdsucks
sysrc systemdsucks_enable=YES
service systemdsucks start

:madmax:

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
how strange that the leaders of other free software projects don't regularly have to worry about crowds of angry villagers showing up

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
had an issue where a bind mount in fstab for nfs home directories didn't work on a linux. guess what the problem was? thats right, systemd baby!!!!

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 still my favorite systemd issue

Although I guess Poetterings amazingly poor people skills is probably proof of being a pretty good programmer

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

- but actual human beings cannot be trusted to build the better thing to replace it

they can and they did, and they named it systemd :)

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

mishaq posted:

they can and they did, and they named it systemd :downs:

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

mishaq posted:

they can and they did, and they named it systemd :)

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
system of a down had some cool sounds amongst they reprtore

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
drat it echi i came here to make the joke

also systemd is at least better than what came before

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Perplx posted:

it would be cool if distros didn't exist and the kernel+systemd was a complete os

this already exists if you think of "linux" as rhel/centos/fedora and everything else as broken garbage for broken people

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

oh, good news op, the de-poetteringed devuan now has reached the rc phase!

strap on your tinfoil-hats and get ready to janitor some scripts!

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

The_Franz posted:

this already exists if you think of "linux" as rhel/centos/fedora and everything else as broken garbage for broken people

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

last time i tried installing fedora it didn't work. ubuntu did tho.

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

centos is god's true linux

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

The_Franz posted:

oh, good news op, the de-poetteringed devuan now has reached the rc phase!

strap on your tinfoil-hats and get ready to janitor some scripts!

i don't use lunix

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

mishaq posted:

vi /etc/systemd/system/systemd_is_cool_and_good.service
systemctl enable systemd_is_cool_and_good
systemctl start systemd_is_cool_and_good

START SYSDSUXP,JOBNAME=SYSDSUXJ,ENV=YOS.POS.BITHC

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

mishaq posted:

centos is god's true linux

not really. macos is

treasure bear
Dec 10, 2012

im going to trust the decisions red hat and debian people made, they seem pretty good with computers

tmesis
Jan 18, 2007

sup holmes
Megamarm

akadajet posted:

not really. macos is

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

treasure bear posted:

im going to trust the decisions debian people made, they seem pretty good with computers

fuckin' random number generators, how do they work!?

also lol iceweasel

akadajet posted:

not really. macos is

no. macos is a genuine, certified, scraggly-gray-bearded unix

treasure bear
Dec 10, 2012

dont edit my posts please

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
lol if you don't use /bin/sh as your process manager

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
i dislike how instead of
code:
service fart restart
now you're supposed to do
code:
systemctl restart fart.service
like who cares about the reordering thing, i guess it makes sense, but "systemctl" is the dumbest abbreviation

luckily centos redirects service to systemctl complete with the reordering thing so i don't really mind systemd i guess

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
otoh service would at least output something like
code:
Stopping fart... done
Starting fart... done
so you knew what was happening but systemctl is completely silent for no reason??

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

treasure bear posted:

im going to trust the decisions debian people made
agreed, ian murdock only ever made good decisions

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

install gentoo if u think systemd is garbage trash for idiots otherwise stfu forever

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Jun 17, 2015

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Captain Foo posted:

install gentoo if u think systemd is garbage trash for idiots otherwise stfu forever

i use freebsd

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
:smug:

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

more like :downs:

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

just use windows like a normal person

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Look, it's simple, you just use "sysctl" when you want to control your system variables, and "systemctl" when you want to control your system services. What could be easier?

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

i loving love systemd

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

more like system d-

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
netbsd or bust

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Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Silver Alicorn posted:

netbsd or bust

wanna buy a dreamcast just so i can run netbsd on it

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

my goth gf posted:

wanna buy a dreamcast just so i can run netbsd on it

same. tho the port was removed in 2009, there's a 2002 snapshot of the ps2 version if you have one

Dairy Days
Dec 26, 2007

Gazpacho posted:

what i'm seeing here is

- yes, rc is a bad init system
- but actual human beings cannot be trusted to build the better thing to replace it

cf: market economy

anyone saying rc is better than systemd is only doing it cause they messed with so many init scripts they got stockholm syndrome

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OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

systemd is good trash for idiots

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