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Hot Diggity! posted:Deep d draft that went o heavy. Why not grab more picks? Lots of good edge and cbs on the board yet. Yeah, but there are drop-offs in talent the deeper it goes - plus, so many teams went o-heavy in the 1st that they'll all go d-heavy in the second. I worry that after Cook and Mixon, there's a big drop to Kamara. CBs, there's still like 5-6 in the current tier before a big drop. Edge rushers, like 2 before a drop. I think we have enough picks now, just take one of Cook/Mixon, grab a DB at the end of the round, and a lower tier edge guy in the 3rd/4th.
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Roasted Donut posted:It was a really stupid move made out of utter despair and desperation Yeah it seems like very much an "all in" style decision and it's a lot to give up for a guy that may be the worst QB taken in the first 2 rounds, depending on how much you like Kizer and Dobbs
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a neat cape posted:Should I go to the Chargers draft fest at stubhub center on Saturday I think that might conflict with the Galaxy game at 7:30 PT
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Grittybeard posted:Worried, but less worried than KC fans? Watson also probably won't be all that good, but his floor is higher than Mahomes. It just feels like such a Browns-ian move. I get that the team is a QB away from being really loving good right now, but that moment is fleeting and we just mortgaged our future -- on the flip side, if Watson really is a top flight NFL QB, the rest of the team being terrible in 3 years is ok. I watched a ton of Mahomes since he was in the Big XII, and if he gets the Rodgers treatment where he gets to sit behind Smith for a few years to learn how to play in the NFL, he will be great. He will flame out spectacularly if asked to play next year.
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Giants needed a tight end extremely badly, so just for that I'm happy. Dont know if Engram is any good, can someone inform me
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Lol could have stayed put and taken Kizer who'll be better than Watson anyway and kept next year's first This sucks
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Febreeze posted:Giants needed a tight end extremely badly, so just for that I'm happy. Dont know if Engram is any good, can someone inform me A little bit overdrafted, second round guy, more of a receiver than a blocker. Good fit for the offense, but doesn't help the pass protection that the Giants sorely need.
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Intruder posted:Lol could have stayed put and taken Kizer who'll be better than Watson anyway and kept next year's first Yeah that was really not a good move
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Febreeze posted:Giants needed a tight end extremely badly, so just for that I'm happy. Dont know if Engram is any good, can someone inform me If he's good think Jimmy Graham. If he's bad think like....Chase Coffman or someone who you've never heard of. He's one of those tight ends who's really just a big receiver and isn't going to do much blocking, but he might be a really good big wide receiver if everything works out.
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Gatts posted:Apparently I didn't realize the Browns traded up for a TE. Good, I guess, even if it isn't Howard. Didn't even cost that much. Sashi owns at trading.
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Flikken posted:Didn't even cost that much. Sashi owns at trading. Yeah, I'm surprised TT didn't milk more out of that one. I feel like we missed the opportunity here to fleece someone.
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Abugadu posted:A little bit overdrafted, second round guy, more of a receiver than a blocker. Good fit for the offense, but doesn't help the pass protection that the Giants sorely need. Honestly I'm okay with that. Eli loves tight ends when pressure is coming and he hasnt had a valid target for a few seasons now. It will help even if he doesnt block.
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Grittybeard posted:He's one of those tight ends who's really just a big receiver and isn't going to do much blocking, but he might be a really good big wide receiver if everything works out.
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a neat cape posted:I don't know how to feel I am excited that the Chiefs finally took a QB in the 1st round for the first time in my life, now that I am 31. I am also glad they didn't choose Watson.
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Febreeze posted:Giants needed a tight end extremely badly, so just for that I'm happy. Dont know if Engram is any good, can someone inform me Jerry Reese sure does love the combine. Engram tested great but isn't an inline blocker. Can't go up for balls either even though he has a three foot vert. Kind of a catch and run guy. Finds the seams and hits them.
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Oh yeah, Mahomes is the first 1st round QB for the Chiefs in a generation. Well, Brett Farve or Case Keenum it's going to be fun to watch.
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I for one am glad theres another retard to unleash the dragon for another few years. Dont really like the McCaffery pick but maybe when we fire Shula we can hire a coach to utilise him. Or trade him to NE in 2 years for a 3rd where he'll be an all pro.
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Apr 28, 2017 05:55
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I went to the Giants draft party at the stadium and have no idea who they drafted.
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Very fun draft, enjoyed watching it. The bears loving up was hilarious and the colts drafting hooker is awesome, never thought we'd be so lucky to have him fall in our lap. Oh and the guy dropping the f bomb and swearing on his dead grandmother he would kill every quarterback was loving amazing. Didn't know anything about him before but now i wish the colts had traded up to get him.
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Oh and the mormon criminal who brought the baby on stage. That ruled too. This might be my favorite first round ever.
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I wanted lattimore in AZ, but then the Saints took him. Then I wanted Hooker or Foster but I guess Reddick will fit really well as a versatile piece in their nickel package and so now I'm ok with it. I'm glad these other teams got stupid and saved us from one of these terrible QBs
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This is good to know because polygraphs are bullshit pseudoscience that don't work at all
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Intruder posted:ARGHHHH I enjoy this as well.
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Thank you stupid teams for picking QBs and letting defensive talent fall.
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Intruder posted:ARGHHHH It's a lot but there are worse picks
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Abugadu posted:Yeah, I'm surprised TT didn't milk more out of that one. I feel like we missed the opportunity here to fleece someone. A 4th for four spots is pretty good, honestly. How many of our OL starters were 4th, 5th rounders? I wouldn't mind trading down again tomorrow as long as we keep drafting twice in the second round. Minorly annoyed about missing TJ Watt but I'll get over it.
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Blitz7x posted:It's a lot but there are worse picks by how much, though? Who else was going to take a QB in the first round? Maaaaaybe Arizona I guess, which I'm sure was Houston's fear but jesus that's a lot to give up
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bigmcgaffney posted:I wanted lattimore in AZ, but then the Saints took him. Then I wanted Hooker or Foster but I guess Reddick will fit really well as a versatile piece in their nickel package and so now I'm ok with it. I'm glad these other teams got stupid and saved us from one of these terrible QBs Yeah I wanted a secondary player for balance but they went BPA and whatever they put on the field is probably going to do some crazy poo poo, good or bad.
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The Texans have basically punted on their 2018 draft so I guess this year is basically boom or bust The dude next to me at the bar was super excited about Watson so hopefully he knows more than me. I was disgusted by the JJ Watt pick so
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I'm still surprised that 3 QBs went that high (and got traded up for) but if you really think you've got your next franchise QB you kinda need to go for it. I just really don't understand why the Bears made that trade though, I can't believe that KC or Houston would have realistically jumped up that far and other than the Jets I don't think any other team in the top 20 picks or so would have been willing to jump that for for a new QB either.
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Strobe posted:I think Mahomes definitely has a lower floor, and with anybody but noted QB coach Andy Reid I'd be livid and/or worried sick. But I think Mahomes also has a ceiling best measured in miles and could be a goddamn riot to watch in a couple years, and will take it. Agreed. Any other spot and it would be terrible, but Reid is drat good at what he does.
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