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Why is Gypsy always loving around with buckets and poo poo? And do we ever see cambot? |
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Do the new ones have the funny guy or Joel? |
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Apr 29, 2017 03:08
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Joel's the producer and a writer but doesn't voice anyone or act. The guys they got in are funny enough.
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Apr 29, 2017 03:19
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Waiting for the MST3k where they watch vine compilations |
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Apr 29, 2017 05:32
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I didn't like it and stopped watching after 4 episodes. They tried to force a joke after every line of dialog and the whole thing feels cramped, and most of the jokes are throwaway pop culture or videogame references/attempts to appeal to the youth (this is more of a systematic Netflix problem though, they did the same thing to Bill Nye). The original MST3k had very subdued humor that didn't require any outside knowledge of any pulp culture media beyond the movie they were watching and was full of the love of the production crew, the new one feels more like it was designed by focus group with specific callouts to various hip young audiences. |
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Apr 29, 2017 05:59
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Macnult posted:Waiting for the MST3k where they watch vine compilations doing the skits halfway through each one is going to be challenging |
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Apr 29, 2017 21:58
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Apr 29, 2017 23:08
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The call of wilderness episode is Hella bad |
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Apr 29, 2017 23:09
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deep dish peat moss posted:I didn't like it and stopped watching after 4 episodes. They tried to force a joke after every line of dialog and the whole thing feels cramped, and most of the jokes are throwaway pop culture or videogame references/attempts to appeal to the youth (this is more of a systematic Netflix problem though, they did the same thing to Bill Nye). The original MST3k had very subdued humor that didn't require any outside knowledge of any pulp culture media beyond the movie they were watching and was full of the love of the production crew, the new one feels more like it was designed by focus group with specific callouts to various hip young audiences. that is only partially true, i mean the original had more pop culture jokes than you might remember. just off the top of my head , i can remember frequent jokes about popular music (like singing a few lines of a well-known song that make for a funny joke about what's happening in the movie), famous actors, famous/classic movies and tv shows, i even remember my mom explaining jokes i didn't get because they were about howdy doody time or things like that that were before my time i'm a big nerd so i even have the old mst3k book and episode guide and they have a goofy list (with explanations) of their 50 most obscure references so i even have actual citations from a real life book that there did indeed used to be refs that needed outside knowledge that being said it does feel like they've gone from (to make up some numberS) maybe a 25/75 mix of pop culture / non-outside knoweldge-requiring, to maybe 50/50, and your criticism is at leats partially true imo. i've only seen the first ep of the new one and i liked it but not qutei as much as the old one, but enough taht i'll watch more
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Apr 29, 2017 23:20
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it's uneven but Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 1 and 2 are two of the best episodes of MS theater three kay lol at the notion that old episodes didn't have as much pop culture stuff, i think it's just that they used to reference way more obscure stuff itt ---------------- |
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Apr 29, 2017 23:21
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JackBadass posted:Do the new ones have the funny guy or Joel? not gonna fall for this trap but nice try  i think both mike and joel are funny also the new guy jonah is dece he seem sfunny so far
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Apr 29, 2017 23:22
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alnilam posted:that is only partially true, i mean the original had more pop culture jokes than you might remember. just off the top of my head , i can remember frequent jokes about popular music (like singing a few lines of a well-known song that make for a funny joke about what's happening in the movie), famous actors, famous/classic movies and tv shows, i even remember my mom explaining jokes i didn't get because they were about howdy doody time or things like that that were before my time That's true I guess I just don't identify with the kids these days and what vibeo gains they're playing or the UTubes and... what is it, dab music? I guess I always saw the original as classic/timeless references to icons of cinema and things but that's because they were my icons of cinema and things. |
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Apr 30, 2017 01:00
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Apr 30, 2017 05:47
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I watched like 15 minutes and the jokes seemed too rapid fire for me and it made me cry 
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Apr 30, 2017 06:01
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Gross Dude posted:I watched like 15 minutes and the jokes seemed too rapid fire for me and it made me cry
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Apr 30, 2017 06:55
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I've been a huge MST fan/nerd since forever, and I was very concerned about the new show. Due to RL conflicts, I was only able to watch episode 1101 tonight. The new actors and framework are a bit difficult to take in all at once, but overall it's not a big problem. I'll agree that sometimes they seemed like they were forcing jokes just to fill time, but that wasn't a huge issue either. As to the claims that they're pandering to hipsters or current pop culture, I was very happy to find that that's not at all true. I'm old and crusty and I have no idea what kids these days are into, but there were many good riffs regarding stuff from the 70s, 80s, and beyond. Only one episode in, but I'm finding myself much relieved, and hopeful for what's to come. Throughout the viewing, I was definitely aware that Joel and Co. had spent a LOT of money, much of which seemed . . unnecessary. The hallway sequence is amazing, and uses technology not possible on the old show. However, no matter how cool the concept, the CGI was choppy and sub-par. Besides, a huge part of the charm of the old show was the cheap, cheesy, hand-built vibe of it all. The bridge of the SOL looked . . . like mediocre CGI with little imagination behind it. And come on. Three puppeteers each for Tom Servo and Crow? A cast/crew list that rivaled The Ten Commandments? It's hardly what we came to know and love all those many years ago. Maybe next time, Joel will ask me, and we can get things done right!
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I loved it and I've seen it all at this point. My only complaint is they occasionally got the timing off on like a few notable locations. They had that happen in the original series as well, but yeah, it's a fairly minor quibble. The old series was very joke-dense too. Rewatching old eps of MST3K, you realize there was dozens of jokes that just flew right over your head. It was a very formative show for me and massively influences my idea of humor and I feel like they've done a good remake and I'm satisfied with all the characters and the writing in general. I think my fav ep is either Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 1 for the jokes or Cry Wilderness for absolute insanity of that horrible, horrible movie. BANG! Anyway, I assume it'll totally get renewed at this point. Looking forward to more next year! Robot Made of Meat posted:The hallway sequence is amazing, and uses technology not possible on the old show. However, no matter how cool the concept, the CGI was choppy and sub-par. Besides, a huge part of the charm of the old show was the cheap, cheesy, hand-built vibe of it all. The bridge is a practical set. http://www.trbimg.com/img-58ed84d8/turbine/la-et-hc-on-the-set-mystery-science-theater-30-012/900/900x506 The doors are stop motion by the miniatures team afaik. There's a lot of obvious CGI in the show open and such but they use practical effects and actual sets in a lot of stuff. |
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May 2, 2017 02:34
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the first episode really didn't work for me but I want to support Elliott Kalan so maybe I will give these Wizards episodes a try. I understand why they'd just recast the voices for the bots, but I find it extremely jarring, they should have just made new bots. |
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May 2, 2017 16:07
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crow is close, but jonah sounds more like tom servo than tom servo does. the episodes I've seen so far have some up and downs, but there are definitely some very funny moments. I do feel like they're not writing very good material for parts where the movies are excruciatingly boring/badly paced. old mst3k would pick a good theme and develop on it to make even rolling end credits funny, in some cases creating some of the most epic and memorable moments on the show. the new cast seems to get reduced to trying to riff on onscreen minutiae ("oh wow, another rock?") |
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May 2, 2017 17:37
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It's like if you always hung out with your friends as kids to riff on bad movies but then they all moved away one summer, and now you're an adult and you found out some of your coworkers like to riff on bad movies too so you go join them one night but it's just not the same. |
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i never watched old mst3k and thought it was ok. not amazing just kinda good, some good jokes every now and then i had a few laughs some chuckes u know |
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May 2, 2017 20:38
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Nobody has answered my question about the loving buckets yet. I just prob lost my health insurance or whatever and I just wanna know about the buckets
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May 4, 2017 20:32
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Petr posted:Nobody has answered my question about the loving buckets yet. I just prob lost my health insurance or whatever and I just wanna know about the buckets They were filling them with your health insurance. No, the buckets are a total macguffin set up by the show creator. It gave him an excuse to put the excellent voice actor for Gypsy in awkwardly twice an episode rather than have her for longer and upset those who might feel jostled by any upset to the original form. In an interview he's said she's delivering the payload, and picking it up, and the only other detail he said was "It's not the payload from Overwatch.", and that they'd explain it later, but like, no way, he is not going to explain it. It is totally just a way to put her in the theater briefly. |
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OK, I clearly haven't read up on this as much as j_e, and there's a big thing puzzling me. Kinga? Why Kinga? In episode 901, we learned that all of the women in the Forrester family are named after gemstones.
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I liked it. The ending is a decent cliffhanger and the new bots are funny. Good riffs, they grow into it. Made me dig out my old fan club newsletters from the nineties and re-read them. It fits with the Joel years best, which is crazy but also cool. |
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May 5, 2017 01:47
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Mother of all nitpicks here it's not Minnesotan enough
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May 5, 2017 19:09
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I thought they were from michigan |
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May 5, 2017 19:09
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Robot Made of Meat posted:OK, I clearly haven't read up on this as much as j_e, and there's a big thing puzzling me. Continuity isn't really the shows strong suit. |
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May 5, 2017 19:59
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joke_explainer posted:Continuity isn't really the shows strong suit. are you saying we should repeat to ourselves 'it's just a show, i should really just relax'? |
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Historical Wizards posted:Mother of all nitpicks here it's not Minnesotan enough actually the "m" stands for mystery |
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May 5, 2017 22:00
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Not reading that spoiler, I don't want to ruin the intricate plot this show has spent so long carefully crafting
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I laughed a bunch at 1101, it was good. Reptilicus was amazingly bad. I remember two jokes that were distinctly 21st century, a twitter feed joke and an ipad joke. I like that Tom servo flies and that cambot shows up [Doctor places hat on top of filing cabinet] Cambot: Now you're Mr. Filing Cabinet! |
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JackBadass posted:Do the new ones have the funny guy or Joel? Joel is producer I think, but Trace is not involved
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only watched the first few episodes, and mostly it feels like the cast hasn't really gelled and I haven't memorized a third set of Servo/Crow voices yet can't get the Monster Song out of my head, the sketches are fun and good- I missed those parts a lot watching Rifftrax I do hope they get the opportunity to do this long enough to build the kind of working relationships Joel and Mike built among their casts, imo Felicia and Patton are fukken killing it tho definitely watching the rest, just pacing 'em for when I can time it to ~11:30pm once a week or so Historical Wizards posted:Mother of all nitpicks here it's not Minnesotan enough if u have watched seasons 3-10 then these spoilers about the states the gizmonics mook is from are safe, its kinda telling joel: Wisconsin and Minnesota mike: Illinois and Wisconsin jonah: Hawaii and Cali but Los Angeles specifically he's way more West Coast than Midwestern and yeah that shows for sure and taking some adjustment |
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Jonah is definitely not midwestern, but there's still some clear minnesota influences coming down from on high. Tom does several Prince jokes throughout the new season for one. there's prolly some others. but yeah, not quite thoroughbred north midwest anymore. I don't mind it though, Jonah is definitely fine by me. After the Joel / Mike wars during some of my first foruming ever, it was a relief to see nobody get really up in arms about him. If you guys don't know, during the MST3K original run, when Joel left and Mike Nelson (who was a writer for the show during that period and appeared on the show several times before his ascendancy to test subject), the various fan forums were loving lit up with arguments about how loving horrible Mike was, or later how Mike was the better host (or at least he had won the hearts of those that were still watching).The History of MST3k posted:By late winter, the Joel vs. Mike strife had subsided, not because one side or the other had "won," but because of a growing consensus to simply forbid the topic. "No Joel vs. Mike discussions" became General Order Number One in MST3K forums all over the internet. As forum leaders began trying to impose this rule in each community, two new opposing factions emerged: In essence, the communities were now divided between those who valued the community more than the issue, and those who felt the issue was more important than the community. quote:Q: I thought Mike did a great job, and Joel was great, too. Do people seriously argue about which one was better? |
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My first ever forums drama was absolutely a Joel vs Mike flamewar. |
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May 6, 2017 06:53
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jesus gently caress look at all those nerd words
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that sounds almost as bad as the D&D thread 5e vs 4e stuff (but of course, not as bad)
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