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Spoeank posted:Ultimate Josh Gordon buy low today imo Josh Gordon, CMike, ASJ. The late rounds are absolutely loaded this year.
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Spoeank posted:Ultimate Josh Gordon buy low today imo My crafty dynasty addition is falling apart on me!
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Are there any alternatives to Fantasypros for connecting to MFL and tracking what players are still available against a set of rankings?
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free josh gordon
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Teemu Pokemon posted:free josh gordon Still too expensive
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/846389999293599744 He's not coming back because we don't deserve him. 
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Perhaps a dumb question: is there a beer sheets-equivalent for IDP? My dynasty league is introducing defensive players and the draft is this weekend. I am woefully unprepared. Anyone have some recommended resources?
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Butter Hole posted:Perhaps a dumb question: is there a beer sheets-equivalent for IDP? My dynasty league is introducing defensive players and the draft is this weekend. I am woefully unprepared. Anyone have some recommended resources? Depends on scoring, but in the most common settings, you really want to draft for tackles. These often aren't the flashiest names. Look for MLBs who wracked up tons (100+) last year and are still on the same team. If there's a slot for DB, a strong safety is your best bet there. On the line, it's trickier since DE sack numbers can often make up for lower tackle production, but that tends to be swingier.
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Butter Hole posted:Perhaps a dumb question: is there a beer sheets-equivalent for IDP? My dynasty league is introducing defensive players and the draft is this weekend. I am woefully unprepared. Anyone have some recommended resources? Yeah, due to scoring differences between leagues, there's really no good rankings that are accurate across positions. I'd recommend going to fftoday.com, plugging in your league's scoring, and then seeing how both each position compares to others, as well as how the scoring gradient changes as you go down the rankings (DL#1 to #12 to #24 etc).
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What are the IDP positions and how many? This is key in devising draft strategy, too. Not just scoring.
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Go to football outsiders, find defensive snap count, draft every 3 down LB, profit
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Go to football outsiders, find defensive snap count, draft every 3 down LB, profit Unless it's 6 point per sack, 1 per tackle, and you have to start 3 DL and 1 LB
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Butter Hole posted:Perhaps a dumb question: is there a beer sheets-equivalent for IDP? My dynasty league is introducing defensive players and the draft is this weekend. I am woefully unprepared. Anyone have some recommended resources? It's very hard to make a draft sheet for IDP because there are very few projections.
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Redskins beat writers won't shut up about Perine winning out the starting tailback job. At least wait until my rookie draft starts assholes
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drizzle posted:Redskins beat writers won't shut up about Perine winning out the starting tailback job. At least wait until my rookie draft starts assholes He's a shiny new toy in a field that doesn't have any competition. In other words typical Redskins.
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I wouldn't sell Fat Rob short. He seems like a steady, reliable plodder that teams could love. Frankly, I want no parts if the Washington dysfunction.
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Fat Rob is so boring and plain and low-ceiling... he's like the RB you end up with in Madden if you sim your draft and FA for a decade Imma roll them dice on Samaje because his names is eJames backwards fake edit 
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Fat Rob had a great Weeks 8-11 but was really pedestrian outside of that. He's also a former UDFA who earned his "Fat Rob" nickname in college. Washington spent a 4th round pick on Perine so that alone ought to give him the leg up on Kelley. Seems pretty clear to me the organization has a higher evaluation of Perine.
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Is drafting Joe Williams with 2.1 insane? He's crawling up mock drafts and seems to be going in the mid-2nd now in a lot of places. I've got 2.1 and 3.8. He's still a solid step behind Perine, Hunt and Kamara in my estimation but if the TEs stay on the board those guys could all be gone by 2.1. At that point the board will have some mixture of Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Chris Godwin, Foreman, Mack and Gallman. I don't really like any of those RBs (the position I'll need if I get to draft Davis in the first like it's looking) that much and I do like Williams. Do I just say gently caress it to draft position and take him? The ideal situation would be a trade back and then still getting him, but mocks are all over the place and I don't know what the "safe" level to trade back to is. I don't even know if there is one. Somebody else might have Joe fever like me. edit: I've got Hyde also if that changes anything. A week ago I was planning on trading up to 3.1 and (over)drafting him there but now everybody is onto it.
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Joe Williams is interesting. My thoughts on drafting is just get the guy you think is going to be the best. Almost everyone in your rookie draft will end up bad. At least pick the bad guy you like the most.
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Joe Williams is going to be a low rent Tevin Coleman if he ever learns how to catch (he loving hates contact and dies between the tackles) so 2.1 might be a bit high but gently caress it who knows anything about anything in a dynasty draft. He's also going to be borderline useless this year Spoeank fucked around with this message at 07:20 on May 16, 2017 |
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Sataere posted:Joe Williams is interesting. My thoughts on drafting is just get the guy you think is going to be the best. Almost everyone in your rookie draft will end up bad. At least pick the bad guy you like the most. I'm definitely interested in Joe Williams too. Shanahan is one of those coaches where if he's handpicking a mid-round RB, I'm not forgetting that name.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:Is drafting Joe Williams with 2.1 insane? He's crawling up mock drafts and seems to be going in the mid-2nd now in a lot of places. I've got 2.1 and 3.8. I think one of Perrine, Hunt, or Kamara should be there. If not, I'd take Zay Jones, Godwin, and Foreman ahead of Joe Williams. I mean, totally sincerely, you should do what you want, but Hyde can catch a football and is good. If you pass on Joe Williams there, some garbage handcuff almost exactly like him should be available at your 3rd  Or forget about trying to trade back and just send a player straight up for a late 2nd. Then even if you miss on Joe, there really will be someone like Mack or Gallman there for sure.Edit: Every league is different, but Joe William has gone at like 25-35 in my 1 QB leagues with IDP and veterans available, so something like 20-30 maybe in an offense and rookie only. I think you're right to expect him to be gone at your 3rd, so if you really want him, get back into the mid to late 2nd. Then even if someone snipes you on him, Jamaal Williams or Mack or one of the top 2nd tier receivers will be there for sure. sourdough fucked around with this message at 11:38 on May 16, 2017 |
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Also, drat I love 2 QB leagues. Trubisky at pick 5, Watson at 7, Mahomes and Kizer to the same QB-needy team at 10 and 11. In a TE premium league, I scooped up Mike Williams, OJ Howard, and Njoku at 8, 9, and 12. Watson has gone pick 1 in two others. I think late 1st and early 2nd is the sweet spot for value this year; either good skill guys drop when QBs go ahead of you, or you can extort some team desperate for a QB if they're still on the board.
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He went 2.11 in our rookie draft which seems about right to me.
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Joe Williams is shooting up boards because of the Shanahan hype narrative. I'm personally staying away at an early second round cost. Hyde is still pretty good, and a nice dynasty buy right now IMO. I would take Kamara, Perine, Hunt, Foreman and probably Jamaal Williams over him, personally.
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Seconding love for superflex/2 qb rookie drafts. I got Kizer at 2.09 (traded Perriman plus 3.08 for Sanders plus 2.09, which I felt great about), and Chris Godwin at 3.03 in my first rookie draft of the year. I am going to end up with a lot of Christian McCaffrey at 1.03 this year. Here's hoping Carolina can make best use of his considerable talents and versatility, and that Curtis Samuel is used more as a field stretcher/injury hedge on CMC.
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I blew up my dynasty team this year, so I have 1.01, 2.01, 2.04 and 2.06. Looking at this draft, I am super stoked at my second rounders. I'm hoping that I can trade down from 1 to acquire some more picks, but I will be happy if I don't. I find it interesting that Joe Williams is getting hyped up, but Kamara isn't, despite Sean Payton trading up for him. He's the sneaky dynasty value, imo.
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I currently have 1.03 and 1.09 in a 12 team league. I am in talks to trade down as there is one team with 1.07, 1.08, 1.11, 1.12. The guy at 1.01 is currently going to take Corey Davis. Think a 1.03 for 1.07 and 1.11 would work to make it happen? Leaves me with 1.07, 1.09 and 1.11
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Sataere posted:I blew up my dynasty team this year, so I have 1.01, 2.01, 2.04 and 2.06. Looking at this draft, I am super stoked at my second rounders. Naw man don't trade down with the 1.01. Take Davis - everybody else in the top 6 is a crapshoot. (Or trade directly for a stud). The 2s look great this year though.
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Sataere posted:I blew up my dynasty team this year, so I have 1.01, 2.01, 2.04 and 2.06. Looking at this draft, I am super stoked at my second rounders. Kamara isn't sneaky value is the problem, pretty much consensus late 1st from what I've seen. He, Hunt, and Perine are fairly solidified as a tier, I think, as the best RBs after the big four.
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Yeah Kamara is on everyone's radar. If Ingram gets traded he'll shoot up a little bit but he's late 1st early 2nd already. Williams was a guy people were getting in the mid to late 3rd a couple weeks ago which was very good value but now that's getting corrected and he's going about where he should (mid 2nd, after Hunt/Kamara/Perine, around the same as Foreman.) If you don't want to take Davis with the 1.1 then you can pretty safely trade back as far as 1.4 and get a top tier guy. Any further and there's a drop off though.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:If you don't want to take Davis with the 1.1 then you can pretty safely trade back as far as 1.4 and get a top tier guy. Any further and there's a drop off though. Totally agree. Hell, if you aren't scared off by his combine numbers and Latavius Murray, go back to 5 and take Cook worst case.
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See, I don't like Davis that much more than Fournette, Mccaffery or Cook. I think they are all interchangeable. Hence my willingness to trade back. Is Davis now the consensus number one over Fournette/Mccaffery? I didn't think that was the case a week ago. To be clear, when I was talking about Kamara, I think he is still undervalued for the bottom of the first. I think he'll likely end up being one of the top three players in this draft down the road.
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Sataere posted:See, I don't like Davis that much more than Fournette, Mccaffery or Cook. I think they are all interchangeable. Hence my willingness to trade back. I'm seeing Davis as the #1 everywhere. The logic seems to be more along the lines of "I'll take Davis #1 and have a great player for 6 years or more. If I took one of the RB's they'd likely be hurt and out of the league in 3 years."
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Spermy Smurf posted:I'm seeing Davis as the #1 everywhere. The logic seems to be more along the lines of "I'll take Davis #1 and have a great player for 6 years or more. If I took one of the RB's they'd likely be hurt and out of the league in 3 years." Yeah, it makes sense. I was already leaning that way. The problem is, receiver is my strongest position (barely) Oh well, I will have my rankings set up soon. I think this weekend, I am going to nerd out
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That's my same problem. I'm really deep at WR and the only thing keeping me from the championship is a 2nd RB that puts up consistent points.
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To think I could've had Jordan Howard, instead of a second this year. 
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Tight end chat. I just made this chart for the slow draft, because I was curious, so you guys might as well see it too. The question was: how often do rookie tight ends contribute? With regards to when to draft a guy like Njoku. So, I put together the stats, with notes, on every first and second round TE drafted 2006-2016: pre:year round name team school games catches/yards/TDs Notes 2016 2 Hunter Henry Chargers Arkansas 15 36/478/8 TE1 Antonio Gates was injured part of 2016 2015 2 Maxx Williams Ravens Minnesota 14 32/268/1 Injured, IR oct 2016 2014 1 Eric Ebron Lions North Carolina 13 25/248/1 2014 2 Austin Seferian-Jenkins Buccaneers Washington 9 21/221/2 injured, IR dec 2014 2014 2 Jace Amaro Jets Texas Tech 14 38/345/2 2014 2 Troy Niklas Cardinals Notre Dame 7 3/38/0 blocking TE 2013 1 Tyler Eifert Bengals Notre Dame 15 39/445/2 2013 2 Zach Ertz Eagles Stanford 16 36/469/4 2013 2 Gavin Escobar Cowboys San Diego State 16 9/134/2 was supposed to be a catching TE 2013 2 Vance McDonald 49ers Rice 15 8/119/0 TE2 behind Vernon Davis 2012 2 Coby Fleener Colts Stanford 12 26/281/2 2011 2 Kyle Rudolph Vikings Notre Dame 15 26/249/3 recovering from hammy, thrown to by Christian Ponder 2011 2 Lance Kendricks Rams Wisconsin 15 28/352/0 rams 2010 1 Jermaine Gresham Bengals Oklahoma 15 52/471/4 franchise record catches by rookie TE 2010 2 Rob Gronkowski Patriots Arizona 16 42/546/10 lol 2009 1 Brandon Pettigrew Lions Oklahoma State 11 31/352/2 Injured, IR Dec 1st 2009 2009 2 Richard Quinn Broncos North Carolina 15 0/0/0 never actually played any of these games 2008 1 Dustin Keller Jets Purdue 16 48/535/3 Brett Favre 2008 2 John Carlson Seahawks Notre Dame 16 55/627/5 Seahawks had many WR injuries this year 2008 2 Fred Davis Redskins USC 11 3/27/0 Barely played, was a fuckup 2008 2 Martellus Bennett Cowboys Texas A&M 16 20/283/4 Played behind Jason Witten 2007 1 Greg Olsen Bears Miami (FL) 14 39/391/2 injured knee, missed first two games 2007 2 Zach Miller Raiders Arizona State 16 44/444/3 No, the other Zach Miller, not the one still playing 2006 1 Vernon Davis 49ers Maryland 10 20/265/3 Injured Sept 06, fractured fibula, returned Nov 19 2006 1 Marcedes Lewis Jaguars UCLA 15 13/126/1 Blocked more than catches, but was drafted to catch. Lol jags 2006 2 Joe Klopfenstein Rams Colorado 16 20/226/1 lol rams 2006 2 Anthony Fasano Cowboys Notre Dame 16 14/126/0 Primarily blocked, behind TE Jason Witten
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