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IcePhoenix posted:This isn't necessary imo. It's not like the NFL where salaries keep increasing because the league is making more money. If someone doesn't want to gut their team they should manage it better. I mean if salaries increase then a cap increase every year or two isn't a big deal. But I see your point since contracts aren't involved as well.
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Alfalfa posted:You guys thought about increasing cap space by 5% or so yearly to keep guys from having to gut their teams but still keep things from getting outrageous? Doesn't make sense for cap space to grow. The issue he had is that their league only requires you to be cap compliant at season start, so he went out and made a bunch of acquisitions that pushed him over the limit, and now he has to manage that. That's not a bad thing from my perspective. re: moving Brown; I think if you're getting JGordon back in that deal, it's an okay move. Evans is still probably a top 5 WR dynasty asset, and if your league is undervaluing him, you'd probably rather have him + some other assets than Brown and nothing.
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Feb 22, 2018 16:18
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Zauper posted:Doesn't make sense for cap space to grow. The issue he had is that their league only requires you to be cap compliant at season start, so he went out and made a bunch of acquisitions that pushed him over the limit, and now he has to manage that. That's not a bad thing from my perspective. I agree, but I also think Brown can win me my league this year. Evans, not so much.
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Feb 22, 2018 16:21
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Anyone wanna help me pick 7 keepers? 0.5 PPR, defensive scoring is roughly on par with offense (as in, given equal positional scarcity/player exceptional-ness, a defense position is as good as offense for keeping). I'm really torn over whether to try and make room for Luck. Myles Garrett probably isn't worth a keep but I want to love him enough to justify that. 
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Feb 22, 2018 16:31
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Wasn't Garrett a beast when he was healthy? I don't play in an IDP league but I thought I remembered reading something about how he was looking like a good use of the high draft pick.
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Pancakes by Mail posted:Anyone wanna help me pick 7 keepers? What picks do you have in the draft (or is it auction based)? I'd actually drop Cooper & Watkins since you have Nuk & Arob. I'd keep: CMC Nuk Mack Mosley Marshall or Garrett (depending on scoring settings) or Cooper/Watkins Ansah Arob
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Feb 22, 2018 17:53
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Poque posted:Wasn't Garrett a beast when he was healthy? I don't play in an IDP league but I thought I remembered reading something about how he was looking like a good use of the high draft pick. He did look really good when healthy, and DL is more top heavy than LB, from what I've seen (this is my second year doing IDP so I'm still getting a feel for it). Alfalfa posted:What picks do you have in the draft (or is it auction based)? I have #11 overall (then 27, then 43). With only 7 keepers and so many roster slots apiece there will definitely be some premium talent available in the early rounds, though there is gonna be a two-team expansion draft before the real draft. Should make things interesting. Curious why Ansah is worth a keep? He wasn't even on my radar tbh, had some pretty forgettable games but maybe I'm over-remembering those. You make a good point, might not be worth keeping so many WR but on the other hand, I'd prob rather keep the top flight talent and look to make a trade? (For the time being I've de-selected Watkins and made Garrett a keep, which I feel good about, so thanks both of ya).
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Pancakes by Mail posted:He did look really good when healthy, and DL is more top heavy than LB, from what I've seen (this is my second year doing IDP so I'm still getting a feel for it). Don’t keep Ansah. I forgot how good Zettel was lining up on the other side last season.
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Feb 23, 2018 14:11
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I'm bored. Combine needs to hurry up to maybe breathe a little life into this thread.
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RCarr posted:Hope you guys don’t mind me still shamelessly asking for dynasty advice in here. I was offered Ebron($2) and Funchess($2) for Cooper($31) and CJ Anderson($11). Thoughts? It looks good to me, and it would shave $38 off my salary. I also receive two cost controlled young players with bright futures.
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RCarr posted:I was offered Ebron($2) and Funchess($2) for Cooper($31) and CJ Anderson($11). Thoughts? It looks good to me, and it would shave $38 off my salary. I also receive two cost controlled young players with bright futures. I'd be very tempted. I've been down on Ebron, but the second half of last season, he looked different to me. I can't tell if it's because of a looming contract with him though.
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I would love that trade. It's hard to know WTF is going on with Oakland and how Gruden will influence things, meanwhile you're getting a ton of value.
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That trade is giving away a ton of talent and you may regret it if Cooper finally learns how to get open in the red zone. BUT if you're looking to shed salary it's really good. This is from a guy who hates CJA and Cooper, too. Also I love Ebron again this year: 
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RCarr posted:I was offered Ebron($2) and Funchess($2) for Cooper($31) and CJ Anderson($11). Thoughts? It looks good to me, and it would shave $38 off my salary. I also receive two cost controlled young players with bright futures. From a skill standpoint, you lose the trade. I think Cooper rebounds and is better than funchess. I have no faith in CJA or ebron. How close to cap compliant does this move make you? This probably doesn't really impact your starting roster, does it? Or I guess Cooper may be a starter for you?
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He won’t take Evans? I’m holding Cooper http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917961/article/jon-gruden-amari-cooper-will-be-offensive-focal-point
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Zauper posted:From a skill standpoint, you lose the trade. I think Cooper rebounds and is better than funchess. I have no faith in CJA or ebron. How close to cap compliant does this move make you? My current salary is $342, and I need to get below $250 before the draft. Even more if I want to draft any rookies. This would drop my current salary from $342 to $304. Here are my recievers: A. Brown - 51 D. Hopkins - 26 D. Thomas - 21 M. Evans - 55 R. Anderson - 3 A. Jeffery - 21 M. Crabtree - 17 A. Cooper - 31 K. Benjamin - 10 D. Westbrook - 2 A. Robinson - 12 K. White - 2 M. Mitchell - 2 I'm probably going to have to trade or cut Evans as well, so it would leave me with Antonio Brown and DeAndre Hopkins as my WR1/WR2, with Thomas, Anderson, Jeffery, Crabtree, Benjamin, Westbrook, Robinson, White, & Mitchell to play in the 3 flex spots depending on matchups. Needless to say, I have the best receiving core in the league, by a mile. Alfalfa posted:He won’t take Evans? I saw that, and I will counter with Evans first, but his $55 salary is a killer, no one wants to take that on. RCarr fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Alfalfa posted:He won’t take Evans? Yeah if you can move Evans instead it's even better. I don't know what to make of Cooper.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I don't know what to make of Cooper. I'd love to keep him another year and see how he does under Gruden, especially with the recent comment that he will be the focal point of the offense. BUT He costs me $31, which hurts, and he was the focal point of the offense last year too, and he played like poo poo.
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Mar 1, 2018 14:27
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RCarr posted:I'd love to keep him another year and see how he does under Gruden, especially with the recent comment that he will be the focal point of the offense. Yeah it's a huge risk. You're also insanely stacked at WR so it's hard to really know what to do. Can you trade players for draft picks?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yeah it's a huge risk. You're also insanely stacked at WR so it's hard to really know what to do. Can you trade players for draft picks? I could, yes.
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RCarr posted:I could, yes. Given how stacked you are I would look at moving folks like Evans for picks.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Given how stacked you are I would look at moving folks like Evans for picks. There isn't really anyone in his league that can absorb Evans, going by his post from earlier. It's probably one of the worst contracts in the league right now 
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RCarr posted:My current salary is $342, and I need to get below $250 before the draft. Even more if I want to draft any rookies. This would drop my current salary from $342 to $304. Make the trade then or see if he will do Evans straight up. If the Cooper trade goes through then cut DT, Jeffery, Benjamin, White, & Mitchell. That gets you to $250. Then look to trade Evans after cuts are made to someone who has space. What is 1st round rookie salary? I'd cut those guys because you can probably get them back cheaper in FA once/if you have space. I'd much rather keep Nuk, Brown, Evans and gamble on a small roster (especially if you have an IR spot that discounts salary). I'd make that trade and those cuts then you have plenty of time and still one of the biggest dynasty assets to use for picks or trades the rest of the off-season. The worst thing that can happen is you end up cutting Evans later because no one wants him and get him back in the FA pool with enough cap room to draft and bid on any of those guys. Alfalfa fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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I think Evans is untradable. $55 this year, $61 next year, $67 the following year, etc. I’m probably going have to cut him at some point. Probably before the upcoming draft. No one is going to dismantle half their team to make space for the most expensive WR in the league who’s coming off a disappointing season.Alfalfa posted:Make the trade then. Then cut DT, Jeffery, Benjamin, White, & Mitchell. That gets you to $250. Then look to trade Evans after cuts are made to someone who has space. What is 1st round rookie salary? Id rather keep all those manageable contracts, and cut Evans. First round rookie salary varies between $16-$20 depending on how early the pick is in the round. RCarr fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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RCarr posted:Id rather keep all those manageable contracts, and cut Evans. First round rookie salary varies between $16-$20 depending on how early the pick is in the round. Which is still a possibility later. I'd keep shopping Evans especially after cuts. Worse thing that can happen later is you do end up having to cut him when then you can get those guys back for even cheaper since I imagine all these over blown contracts this year, everyone is going to be very shiesty in their spending.
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I think this thread has it best. See if you can counter with Evans. If he doesn't bite, trade Cooper and then cut Evans at some point.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:28
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I feel like the only person here who doesn't want anything to do with Mike Evans
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Poque posted:I feel like the only person here who doesn't want anything to do with Mike Evans Never touching him again.
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Poque posted:I feel like the only person here who doesn't want anything to do with Mike Evans You are not
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Poque posted:I feel like the only person here who doesn't want anything to do with Mike Evans Yeah. I've got him on my dynasty team and I'm really worried. I feel like all of his value has come from ridiculous volume but that he's not actually a top-10 NFL wide receiver talentwise, and that the Bucs are not going to keep trying to run their entire offense based on feeding him the ball constantly. That doesn't mean he's worthless, and just refusing to touch him ever is an over-reaction. But, if anyone else in your league is willing to pay him as a top-5 WR, let them take that risk, in my opinion.
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I'd take him at the right price. More than AB is definitely not that price.
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Evans in the second or third is a no brainer. He is still great. It's just whether Jameis can get it done. I wouldn't take him in the first, but I wouldn't take him last year at his price. If I'm taking someone in the first, I generally need at least two seasons of elite production.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I almost wonder about trading AB for a ransom. Again, the salary makes it hard. I shopped him around and couldn't get any great offers. I think the best offer I got was Josh Gordon($2), DeVante Parker($10), and a 2nd round pick.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I almost wonder about trading AB for a ransom. If he can flip Evans for Cooper in that deal, I would definitely consider it. I love AB84, but regression is coming soon. His value will never be as high as it is right now.
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RCarr posted:Again, the salary makes it hard. I shopped him around and couldn't get any great offers. I think the best offer I got was Josh Gordon($2), DeVante Parker($10), and a 2nd round pick. Did you counter at all? I think changing that pick to a first, plus another player could be worthwhile.
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Sataere posted:Did you counter at all? I think changing that pick to a first, plus another player could be worthwhile. I countered with Clement, Collins, Gordon, and second rounder. Which he declined.
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RCarr posted:I countered with Clement, Collins, Gordon, and second rounder. Which he declined. Oh well. Even though I just said his value will never be higher, if he starts off strong, you should be able to trade him mid-season for a monster haul. People will be less worried about his contract if they are going for a playoff push.
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I was the clear favorite to win last year (My total points scored was like 300 better than second place), but lost in the semi's due to AB and Burkhead getting hurt (I lost by a tenth of a point even after losing those 2). I'm definitely the clear favorite again this year and that $1,000 winnings would go a long way, so I'm inclined to keep AB rather than trade him.
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RCarr posted:I was the clear favorite to win last year (My total points scored was like 300 better than second place), but lost in the semi's due to AB and Burkhead getting hurt (I lost by a tenth of a point even after losing those 2). I'm definitely the clear favorite again this year and that $1,000 winnings would go a long way, so I'm inclined to keep AB rather than trade him. Also a solid move. My biggest failing in dynasty is trying to get younger and cost controlled players. Sometimes to the detriment of my long term success.
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