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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Guess I'm not meant to have ac. Woke up to a warm apartment. Breaker was tripped.

Reset breaker, commence pants making GBS threads when the blueish-green magic pixies came out to say hi. :stare:

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 17, 2017

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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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funny Star Wars parody posted:

michigan has lots of fresh water

Not in Flint!

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

Guess I'm not meant to have ac. Woke up to a warm apartment. Breaker was tripped.

Reset breaker, commence pants making GBS threads when the blueish-green magic pixies came out to say hi. :stare:

So last fall, they swapped out the 20 amp breaker for a 30 amp... because it kept tripping. Still on the same 12 gauge wiring. Was, anyway, it did some self clearancing. Thankfully it was in conduit. Contactor was also welded closed. New wire pulled, new contactor. Breaker trips as soon as the ac is turned on now, instead of immediately.

... they're blaming the Nest for "pulling too much juice". Wait, what? :laffo:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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angryrobots posted:

Lol I bet the compressor is shorted, and lol that your maintenance people blame the low voltage thermostat for tripping the over current protection. Jfc.

Exactly.

So far they've shotgunned the following:

New 24v transformer
New relays and heat detectors in the furnace
New start and run caps outside (5th time they've been replaced since I moved in last year... 2nd time this year)
New contactor outside
Pulled new wire from the breaker panel to the outside disconnect
Pulled new wire from the disconnect to the ac

I threw the old thermostat back up to appease him.

They brought me a window unit to keep the bedroom cool overnight, and I already owned a portable (which has the exhaust hooked up to the dryer duct right now). He's bringing a new furnace tomorrow morning. I should have made a bet with him about that not fixing anything. :downsgun: I would have preferred they put me in a hotel since it's about 90 degrees inside, but that's not happening.

To be fair though.. he showed me the old parts. Caps were bulging (again.. this is the 5th time they've been replaced in the past year). Contactor was welded. The safeties in the furnace looked like they'd been sitting at the bottom of a lake. Drain was clogged. Coils were clogged to poo poo (funny, they "cleaned the inside coils" a few weeks ago at my request). So new parts needed to be shotgunned at it. But he's ignoring the fact that there's no way the furnace could be tripping the breaker for the condenser.

e: just tried turning on the fan by itself to at least get some air moving. Nothing. Put my multimeter on the thermostat.. no power, even though the breaker for the heater is on. So he broke it even more. :haw:

Enourmo posted:

Unit built for a 20 amp circuit is tripping a 30 amp breaker.

Clearly this means the thermostat is using over 120 watts of power.

120v x 20 = 2400 watts

But wait, there's more! It's a double pole breaker... 240v x 20 = 4800 watts. And since they had swapped it for a 30 amp.. 7200 watts. Through 12 gauge wire.

Also uh... the data plate on the ac does specify that it should be on a 30 amp circuit.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 23:07 on May 17, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Rhyno posted:

FREE T CRUISER IS BEING PREPPED FOR DELIVERY

So they torched it?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Oh, all of the start caps they've put on it have been hard start caps. :v: It's dead. It's so dead that every doctor walked out hours ago, but one nurse thinks there's a chance of revival. Except the nurse is giving CPR, hours after the doctors called it, and she's doing it completely wrong.

The lights have always dimmed pretty bad when the ac kicks on, with a pretty decent buzz from the breaker panel while they dimmed. The heater makes them dim a little, but nothing like the ac.

And yeah, the tag is pretty sun bleached, but I'm pretty sure it's an 11 SEER 2.5 ton unit (I was able to make out a model # on it awhile back). It's also pulled a shitload of power this month - electric bill was a couple of bucks shy of $100, for a 1 bedroom apartment. Every light I have in the place is either LCD or CFL (except for the bathroom light), and I don't leave anything on while I'm gone except for a desk lamp. I've gone so far as to kill the power to the water heater for a couple of days, and I didn't see much of a drop in usage (smart meter, so I'm able to log in to the power company's website and see usage data, with a 2 day delay). My electric bill over the winter was running about $30 (pretty sure that was almost all the water heater), and the bill before my current one was less than $50.

The air handler definitely needed some love, he showed me the crap he pulled out of it (I'm amazed it worked at all) - but at least I could turn the fan on to get some air moving before he touched it. It's completely dead now. It has power getting to it, but the new transformer isn't putting anything out. And now that maintenance has had their hands on it, it's been moved to the category of Not My loving Problem / I don't want any loving liability

Darchangel posted:

Your maintenance guy does not understand electricity or how AC units use it. I can't understand how people like this have a job, and I have to fight to find decent employment. Presumably it's a personality thing.

I don't think he really understands electricity in general. He shocked himself pretty good in front of me when he started pulling wires apart in the heater (he thought the 40 amp breaker was my main breaker... the main is 100 amps and outside). He caused a couple of light shows too, but thankfully those resulted in a breaker tripping before anything more serious happened.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 03:14 on May 18, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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About loving ti.. I mean, congrats!

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I just noticed Chucklefuck Maint guy replaced the double pole ac breaker with two single pole breakers.

I know they'll trip, but that means someone in the future might turn one off, or turn off a neighboring breaker with one of the ac breakers, thinking the ac is dead, then go to town outside. :downsgun:

ExplodingSims posted:

So apparently the U.S. Government is much like STR's AC. Put together by idiots and melting down spectacularly tonight :stare:

Hey hey hey, don't insult the maintenance staff like that. They're just stupid, possibly suicidal, but not homicidal (well.. wait.. after seeing the 2 single pole breakers, maybe they are...)

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 04:10 on May 18, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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angryrobots posted:

Regarding ac hard start kits, I read an article a while back (unfortunately looks like it's now behind a paywall) about how hard start kits should really be standard even on new units. In short, according to the article, they measurably reduce the locked rotor amps, and get the motor up to speed more quickly, reducing wear.

I suppose you can guess at why they're not standard equipment from the factory. Increased initial cost and a longer compressor service life are both bad for sales.

I've read similar articles; the gist I got out of them was that they do help a compressor start faster if voltage sag is an issue (which it probably is here - 12 gauge wire powering a 2 to 2.5 ton unit, I'm on the 3rd floor, condensing unit is on the ground).

What's given them a black eye is people just keep throwing new hard start caps at something that's on its last legs, instead of actually fixing the issue before the compressor gets chooched. That's what I assume is going on here - they've replaced the caps 5 times since I've lived here, and almost as many contactors (the guy who came out today welded 2 brand new ones back to back, on top of the one that welded itself overnight; they replaced one last year). I've been here less than a year, and the outside unit isn't THAT old - there's several original GE units from 1983-1984 on the property, an absolute shitload of early 90s Tranes (salvaged from a sister property that got hit by a tornado, they kept the ones that only had cosmetic damage), some Goodmans, and now some new Paynes are starting to show up (half of my building has those, a decent amount has Tranes, then there's the 2 Goodmans - 16 unit building, but this one property alone has about 850 units).

Everywhere else I've lived, the ac needed attention once every few years (not counting preventive maintenance), not once every month or two. And every time they've touched it, they mentioned they added a hard start kit.

I'm not an expert, I know just enough to be dangerous; but if something keeps roasting caps, and it keeps tripping circuit breakers (even after you oversize the breaker :supaburn:), I'm gonna guess you're either installing the wrong caps, or the thing is 1 shuffle away from the grave. Someone who actually does this poo poo for a living would know a hell of a lot more (I'm looking at you, explodingsims), this is just random poo poo I've picked up from reading.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 05:18 on May 18, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Still no ac. Dipshit maintenance came up, replaced the heater, and surprise surprise, breaker still trips as soon as he switches the thermostat to cool.

He brought up another maintenance guy... who I'm pretty sure just cussed him out in 4 or 5 languages, then dragged him outside to show him how to electricity on the outside unit.

e: now it's a race against the clock for them to fix/replace the outside unit... really nasty storms moving in pretty soon. They did tell me they have a spare one they can put in temporarily if it comes to that, at least.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 19:58 on May 18, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Who's hungry?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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2 ton ac (thought it was 2.5 tons before). But yeah, I was surprised how small it was.

Watching the maintenance guy hurl it off the balcony was amusing as hell. Put a pretty decent divot in the grass though.



I feel like I should get a tetanus shot just from looking at the drip pan.

They provided a 12000 BTU window shaker to get me through until everything comes in. I was using an 8000 portable that I own last night (and they had provided an itty bitty 5000 btu last night), but my bedroom never really got below 80. It's like a freezer in there now.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 23:06 on May 18, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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So loving true. At least they're doing a full gut and replace; the only things that will be original will be the thermostat wires, refrigerant lines, and ducts.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

ExplodingSims posted:

Lol, I bet they're gonna put a 410 unit in without doing a flush. Or even checking if the line sizes are correct for the new unit, based on previous experiences.

I can guarantee the lines aren't getting changed - it won't really be possible without tearing the siding off the building and tearing out part of the ceiling (no attic). More than half of my building has Payne 410 units now, and they reused the original lines.

And yeah, they confirmed it'll be 410. Originally they were going to try and swap in a used R22 unit or braze in a new compressor, but the property manager told them to rip it all out.

Sims, turns out the label on the compressor wasn't completely sun bleached, I just couldn't get a good look at it without my glasses on. :downs: The old unit was a bit older than I thought... 2005, mfg by Copeland. Seems like it should have lasted a bit longer, but after seeing the poo poo they tore out, I'm glad they're replacing everything.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Guess what wound up pissing water everywhere? If you guessed "loaner ac", you win some soaked carpet.

I can't even get mad at this point. At least they had another one, and we (maint guy and myself) looked this one over closely before throwing it in.

angryrobots posted:

Hey this is the awesomeness I have on my house!

My place was a Fannie Mae foreclosure and the condensers were stolen, so fixing the hvac was conditional to the closing. It was "done", but terribly. The little 1.5 ton air handler for my back room, has a return grill filter. They left the filter door off the unit (no where to be seen), with a filter in it, in the attic. Not that it really mattered, because they didn't bother to finish tying in the return.

I had them come back and "fix" this, and a bunch of other stuff, but the line sets they reused stayed. I probably could have gotten them changed out if I was really an rear end about it, but I bet for my trouble they would have sabotaged something so I cut my losses and plan to get a package unit eventually. (The main air handler unit is dug slightly into the ground because there's not enough clearance in the crawl space, and I've burned up 2 condensate pumps between our 2015 historic floods and hurricane Matthew last year just from rising groundwater. Meanwhile there's nothing in the way of a package unit installation, who knows?)

Both existing, undersized line sets are straight shots, nothing in the way, less than 20' each and they reused the old lines with the rotten insulation. Crimped the flare on the units to fit the too small copper line, and brazed away. Flushed? Lol yeah right.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Some ciders are decent (pear cider is downright tasty), but I can't handle more than 1, maybe 2. Most of them are too dry for me.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

funny Star Wars parody posted:

no white people with their dumbass white people your fence is 1mm too high bullshit

... aren't you about as white as they get? WHY AREN'T YOU HASSLING YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT THEIR FENCES?!

And trust me, busybodies come in all colors.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Darchangel posted:

Isn't that usually an installation problem on window units? They just dribble out the back, and have to be installed with a bit of a slope to the outside. I noted on the one I use in my garage that the fan on the condenser is designed to dip into the condensate and spray it onto the condenser for a little bit more evaporative cooling.

That's what I thought, but when I first noticed the water I tried tilting it a bit more outward. Maint came out with an identical one, and we compared them side by side. The one they gave me the first time had very obviously been dropped. Repeatedly. Quite possibly drop kicked, and likely used to club baby seals to death. Chassis was twisted pretty bad, lots of dents in it, all of the plastic on it was cracked and the chassis was cracked in one spot on the bottom (how the gently caress do you even DO that?!). I'm amazed it worked at all, but I don't handle heat very well; at the time I was just thankful to have it.

It's been running since about 6:30pm, still dry inside, and not much water outside. AFAIK, pretty much any unit since the 90s or so is designed to splash the water over the condenser; less water to drip, and improves efficiency a bit.

Darchangel posted:


That was some ugly stuff they took out.

No kidding. My allergies have been hell since I moved here, all that poo poo that was in the drip pan (which was half slime, half rust) wasn't doing me any favors. Wasn't moving poo poo for air either; the air filter installed at the moment is 6 months old, and barely has any dust on it.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

ExplodingSims posted:

Lol, I bet they're gonna put a 410 unit in without doing a flush. Or even checking if the line sizes are correct for the new unit, based on previous experiences.

Nailed it. Don't think they did a flush (if they did, they did it before I woke up today - I was asleep when they started), and the lines from the coil had several different sizes of stubs used to hook everything up. :v: One guy did everything solo.

It works though. It works drat good compared to what I had before. I've already had to close off the vent by my desk, and it's dropped the inside temp 13 degrees in a little over an hour. It's a hack job for sure, but it works.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I wish I'd never developed a taste for alcohol, personally. You're not missing anything particularly good unless you have the self control to never go overboard.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

For just internet, yeah, powerline adapters can be pretty decent.

If you plan to actually move stuff between PCs, they're not any better than wireless (may be worse in some cases). Wired gigabit is pretty great for moving all that porn between computers, 802.11ac is okay if you're not fighting 500 other access points.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Enourmo posted:

To be fair the latter is more scaleable. Same changer mechanism with a larger storage rack/more memory addresses, vs X complete readers.

I mean probably not for small numbers, but...

There's always these old bastards.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

That's exactly why I had two of those jam-a-riffic bastards back in the 90s!

:corsair:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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There's a restaurant/entertainment venue named Shenanigans in the next city.

Where's Farva?!

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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everdave posted:

I have a low deductible and full coverage on this paid off car would they fix the paint fuckup too? I'm not used to dealing with insurance for something we're at fault for. I'm just thinking about finding a tail light and realigning and popping out bumper best I can.

They would make it look new. At least that corner, anyway.

But your rates will probably go up for a couple of years unless you have some kind of accident forgiveness rider. I'd take it to a reputable body shop and get an estimate; most will do a free estimate. If it's something you can afford vs making an insurance claim, pay for it out of pocket (or get a used light and pop the dent out yourself).

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

That moment when you hear a ton of cops and a helicopter go flying by, so you start listening to the police radio.

"Homicide suspect is driving an RV at relatively low speeds"

Did Breaking Bad get renewed for another season? (and moved to TX...)

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

That moment when you hear a ton of cops and a helicopter go flying by, so you start listening to the police radio.

"Homicide suspect is driving an RV at relatively low speeds"

Did Breaking Bad get renewed for another season? (and moved to TX...)

Well that didn't end well

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Rhyno posted:

Why would it raise red flags? Its a rental property, they like weird stuff. I'm not allowed to work in the car with the garage door open either, is that a deal breaker as well?

Some cities have gone so far as to make that a part of city code.

Most of the rentals I've lived in went so far as to spell out what color my drapes/blinds had to be, one place even had designated times that I wasn't allowed to watch TV. God help you if you're caught checking the oil (or even opening the hood) at one place I lived at. Every apartment lease I've signed also stated that each resident was allowed to park 1 vehicle in the parking lot, and that no boats, trailers, big trucks, etc could be parked on the property (the place I'm at now also states the same, but they have dedicated boat and RV parking :psyduck: and one of my neighbors is an owner/operator who brings his truck home and parks it on the side of my building)

The place I'm at now doesn't really give two shits what I do so long as I don't generate complaints, my car doesn't look abandoned, and I can't leave my bicycle on the patio, even if it's locked up (annoying, but meh, it's a big place, bringing it inside isn't that big of a deal). Nothing in the lease prohibiting working on my car, nothing prohibiting window air conditioners (first apartment I've lived in that didn't prohibit them), nothing saying I have to have white blinds/drapes. Parking here is plentiful enough that they don't seem to give two shits how many cars people have.

I guess tl;dr is most rental properties have a bunch of rules about what you can and can't do

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 05:45 on May 26, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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90 loving percent humidity? Check.
So humid that you have fog when it's 95 and sunny? Check.
Heat index of 107? Check.
Car with broken ac? Check.

Restaurant runs out of bottled water and soft drinks and puts in an order with Amazon instead of the manager driving to Walmart?





Double loving che:suicide:

I did find out the Saturd will still do highway speeds with 600 pounds (not counting my fatass, so 800 pounds counting me) of crap in it, but it doesn't like those speeds if you think about using 5th

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

My main source of income is Prime Now, secondary is Uber Eats. :allears: I do Uber Eats at random; I've been active with them long enough that I qualify for instant pay, so I basically sign in when I need some quick cash (they do a credit to my debit card when I cash out). They cover a lot of areas that nobody else covers too; I'll often go online after finishing an Amazon route that leaves me in the sticks. Occasionally I get kidnapped by, say, a McDonalds in the middle of a small town an hour away (which is fine with me.. they're short trips, so I don't make a lot per trip, but they're generally back to back for as long as I want to work).

(I'm also active with GrubHub and DoorDash, but it's been ages since I actually signed in to DD, and my GH delivery area begins about 20 minutes away)

I'm far enough out that my zipcode is the last one (going east) that Prime Now delivers to in DFW, I'm about a mile and a half inside the service area. Uber Eats started serving my area a few months ago; none of the other delivery services cover my area. There's a few pizza places and Chinese places that deliver to me, outside of that if I want food delivered, it has to be via Uber Eats.

99% of the time I like doing Prime Now deliveries. It's pretty decent money for a delivery gig, I get to drive around all day, and for the most part it's fairly low stress (aside from having to deliver everything on time AND make it back to the warehouse on time for the next shift - normally that's not much of an issue so long as the warehouse isn't backed up). Been doing Prime Now for a little over a year and a half, but I didn't make it my full time job until early last year.

e: I'm kind of on the border of 'burb and sticks. My apartment is on a 2 lane road, but right off of a major highway. Go 2 miles southeast or northwest and you're on farms. I'm barely (by about a mile and a half) inside of Dallas county. Go east-ish and you're in a pretty healthy smaller city (but it's far enough out to not be considered a suburb.. back when landlines were a thing, calling someone there would have been a long distance call), go beyond that city and it's sticks.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 10:12 on May 28, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Goddamn, that's a nice truck, cosmetic damage or not.

The damage just means you won't give a poo poo about a door ding.

Seminal Flu posted:

Almost every panel of your Saturn is a different color.

Mine looks like that too with a camera, but in person the panels look fine. :iiam: (except for the front left fender, but that's been repainted twice now).

I'm guessing the panels were painted off the car, so who knows what direction the flake is laid down on each panel. It's something I've noticed on a lot of Ions.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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Fo3 is in upside-down land. No Home Depot there.

e: they do have a chain called Your Home Depot, but it looks like it's kind of like our Bed Bath & Beyond.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 07:39 on May 29, 2017

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May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

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There's plenty of (non-Ivy League) universities that have an annual cost of attendance of about $70k. Today. One of them is right here in DFW.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 20:44 on May 30, 2017

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