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jBrereton posted:I'm loving glad that this thing is being done with the best intentions by both sides, with the reasonable concerns hundreds of millions of EU + UK citizens taken into account, not the ego of a guy who let the EU collapse and some smug prick and his schoolteacher mistress taking charge.
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LemonDrizzle posted:10) EU side felt May was seeing whole thing through rose-tinted-glasses. "Let us make Brexit a success" she told them. Such a strange way to state things, like she's trying to win their votes.
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bessantj posted:Such a strange way to state things, like she's trying to win their votes. It's consistent with the language she uses in leaks from cabinet meetings. This is apparently how she interacts with people.
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Skinty McEdger posted:It's consistent with the language she uses in leaks from cabinet meetings. This is apparently how she interacts with people. "Hello darling, hope your nights sleep was a success. Let's make a success of breakfast." The fact that it seems increasingly likely that she will win the next election makes me feel a bit depressed. What would she count as a success anyway?
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it makes a perverse sense if one knows that the meeting will be leaked anyway, so one plays to the actual intended audience, i.e. the headlines after a summary, transcript, or even whole audio recording is leaked this, we tell ourselves, is Democratic Government. I blame Tony Benn.
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LemonDrizzle posted:The German newspaper FAZ has an account of the midweek dinner meeting between May/Davis and Juncker, which is really not complimentary at all of the PM; the Economist's Berlin bureau chief did a translation of the highlights on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/858810953353367552 Zephro fucked around with this message at 08:57 on May 1, 2017 |
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jBrereton posted:I'm loving glad that this thing is being done with the best intentions by both sides, with the reasonable concerns hundreds of millions of EU + UK citizens taken into account, not the ego of a guy who let the EU collapse and some smug prick and his schoolteacher mistress taking charge.
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Jippa posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/01/tony-blair-announces-return-in-bid-to-influence-brexit-debate I presume that noted war criminal Tony Blair will be "entering the debate" via the medium of a webcast from the criminal state of Israel where he resides in shamefaced exile from fear of potential prosecution for war crimes.
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https://twitter.com/MiRo_SPD/status/858952076700917760 Roth is the German Minister for Europe.
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Oberleutnant posted:I presume that noted war criminal Tony Blair will be "entering the debate" via the medium of a webcast from the criminal state of Israel where he resides in shamefaced exile from fear of potential prosecution for war crimes. I seem to remember a few articles some months ago saying he was moving his entire office (I presume there are many people employed there) back into London, so he had a base to campaign on Brexit from. He may actually here, in which case it's worth mentioning there is still £10k in the kitty if you manage a citizen's arrest. Taintrunner posted:American here, is there any reason I don't want Corbyn to win? If you care about NATO, it probably wouldn't be good news. Or if you needed a trusty sidekick for general military interventionism. More generally, I can't imagine Trump - Corbyn relations being anything other than catastrophic, so it would be bad news for our diplomatic relationship generally.
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Jose posted:i'm glad blair is promising to get his hands dirty and help Theresa May get re-elected because shes what this country needs Based on that Juncker meeting analysis she's certainly what this country deserves. That said, I myself have been holding Brexit talks of late, and have successfully negotiated a deal to leave the EU I'm moving to Norway this month.
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Prince John posted:I seem to remember a few articles some months ago saying he was moving his entire office (I presume there are many people employed there) back into London, so he had a base to campaign on Brexit from. He may actually here, in which case it's worth mentioning there is still £10k in the kitty if you manage a citizen's arrest.
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/MiRo_SPD/status/858952076700917760 He is absolutely right tho. Only some british will be better off. E: Blair: "Labour went and a clawed back a positively meager number of points in the polls? On leftist policy? Well this just wont do." Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 09:34 on May 1, 2017 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Blair: "Labour went and a clawed back a positively meager number of points in the polls? On leftist policy? Well this just wont do." He's on of those old fashioned politicians who thinks that being able to form a government is important.
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I'm sad that someone else managed to do an Iron Lady reference in response to Ronya's post before me
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yeah but he also a massive oval office
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big scary monsters posted:Based on that Juncker meeting analysis she's certainly what this country deserves. How does voting work after you #brexit? What constituency do you vote in? I am likely to be heading off to live in Switzerland shortly and won't be resident for at least a few years.
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Kurtofan posted:where can i get a tim farron cardboard cutout his cutout is on there, but its more complex and you gotta pay someone to straighten it up
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Kurtofan posted:where can i get a tim farron cardboard cutout
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I feel that performing a citizen's arrest on Blair would probably get me actual arrested
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Pissflaps posted:He's on of those old fashioned politicians who thinks that being able to form a government is important. And the way to do this is by pointing out factional differences in the middle of a general election campaign? That doesn't sound like a good way to win an election. There's a time and a place for Labour members to have a reasonable and free discussion on the merits of the leader. That ended the minute the PM called for a snap election. Assuming quite reasonably that Labour won't win, we can go back to those discussions the day the results are announced. But of course Tony is on the record as preferring a left-lead Labour Party to lose so of course he'd work against it during an election campaign.
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Namtab posted:I feel that performing a citizen's arrest on Blair would probably get me actual arrested Martyrdom is an effective political tool, don't write it off completely.
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Guavanaut posted:It's currently leading the Lib Dems. That's not fair Cardboard is sturdier than any of the Lib Dems actual policies
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Namtab posted:I feel that performing a citizen's arrest on Blair would probably get me actual arrested "Mr. Garcia put his hand on Mr. Blair’s shoulder and announced a citizen’s arrest for crimes against peace. Mr. Blair, having experienced something similar four times previously, did not seem that surprised. “He had a look of ‘Here we go again’ plastered over his face,” Mr. Garcia said. But so reviled is Mr. Blair in some quarters that a website, set up by the writer George Monbiot, offers cash to those who attempt a citizen’s arrest on the former prime minister. Mr. Garcia, who quit his bartending job to concentrate on being a D.J., said he had consulted the website, arrestblair.org, before his encounter with Mr. Blair. He received more than 2,200 pounds, about $3,730, but said his motive had been neither cash nor publicity but a desire to hold Mr. Blair accountable for Iraq." https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/world/europe/tony-blair-defined-by-his-support-of-president-bush-and-the-invasion-of-iraq.html?_r=0
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How about a citizens execution? JK JK just bants just bants
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LemonDrizzle posted:The EU is not collapsing, and EU citizens in general support the Commission's stance, sooooo... I don't think EU citizens in general will actually support the commission's stance when £290bil of exports and £240bil of imports are put under threat because Juncker, Verhofstadt, and Barnier are too vain to get along with the quite stupid Davis, Fox, and May. The handful of people doing the negotiations are rich enough for it not to matter to them personally. The workers of Europe, not so much.
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forkboy84 posted:And the way to do this is by pointing out factional differences in the middle of a general election campaign? That doesn't sound like a good way to win an election. It's his campaign. He won three elections though so he might now something about winning them.
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blair is only getting involved again because the US looks like it might invade Syria and he wants part of that. His lust for death in the middle east knows no bounds
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/renters-on-housing-benefit-barred-from-buy-to-let-homes-cw0qcw9cq in idealised mortgage-to-let, the bank puts up the capital. the landlord puts up the collateral. the tenant puts up the rent. It would normally make no sense for landlords to, other things equal, want to take on more risk, since they're the ones paying for the risk. for some proportion of BTLs, i'm guessing, the landlord puts up the capital, the bank makes the gains tax-deductible, and the tenancy is a pure cost to obtain the tax-deductibility: the landlord intends to liquidate the moment the mortgage expires and then re-enter the cycle again. The collateral is actually not sufficient to cover the costs of default; any additional risk of default, therefore, does not fall on the landlord.
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