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Spangly A posted:the tories are selling turkey planes you dumb gently caress Come on, there's no need to be like that. Dabir posted:You weren't going to anyway. I would vote for Labour if they weren't led by total idiots.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:30 |
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Every time I see a YouGov polling survey I get really annoyed, because that's another 50p I haven't got. Instead I get endless polls on my coffee shop preferences.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:29 |
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The Tories are shite. May is hopeless. Their campaign is garbage. Their Brexit position unravelling. And they're going to walk this election. Imagine what could have been if Labour had even a half way decent leadership team instead of the shower of shite its lumbered with.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:32 |
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knox_harrington posted:Come on, there's no need to be like that. there really is though you poo poo your pants at seeing a flag, assuming it means something it pretty clearly doesn't, and claim this is Labour Bad. But actually selling weapons to the regimes you care so much about wouldn't bother you? What, are you going to vote green or something? knox_harrington posted:I would vote for Labour if they weren't led by total idiots. Please don't confuse "really crap at leading a political party" with bad policies. Labour have great policies. They're just led by people really bad at stage-managing national level politics. The party that are really good at this stuff are literal child rapists with a 25 year record of worldwide failure behind their economy.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:33 |
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Do any of the polling companies ever have a census or something, where we can see the demographic they're using for polling?
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:35 |
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Polls like this are quite clearly an attempt to influence public opinion, not measure it. It asks basically the same question as popularity, but tweaks the wording to match other parties attack's on Corbyn. That isn't to say Corbyn isn't unpopular, just that there's no reason to suddenly change the question being asked (which means you can't compare it to any previous polls) unless you are trying to influence the result. Pissflaps posted:The Tories are shite. May is hopeless. Their campaign is garbage. Their Brexit position unravelling. Alternatively Labour is on course to do basically the same as the last two elections except the Tories have been gifted with large numbers of UKIP voters thanks to Brexit. jabby fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 1, 2017 |
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kecske posted:Do any of the polling companies ever have a census or something, where we can see the demographic they're using for polling? All BPC members release data tables for their published polls so you can see the breakdown of how different types of people are answering.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:35 |
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knox_harrington posted:Come on, there's no need to be like that. There's quite a lot of need, actually
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:41 |
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Spangly A posted:there really is though Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. Seriously campaigning as a communist is tone deaf and alienates a huge swathe of the population. There is no way Labour can make an impact on the election without appealing to the Guardian reading Islington sector. I'm a left leaning voter but listening to McDonnell I am basically his enemy - there is no-one for me to vote for in this election.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:42 |
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knox_harrington posted:Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. Oh wow a loving tone argument knox_harrington posted:. There is no way Labour can make an impact on the election without appealing to the Guardian reading Islington sector. I'm a left leaning voter but listening to McDonnell I am basically his enemy - there is no-one for me to vote for in this election. You claim to be a public services worker, McDonnell offers you more than any leader of any political party in years that you can't see this isn't tone deaf, it's me having no idea how to get through to you other than "jesus christ you are frustratingly determined to gently caress yourselves and coworkers over"
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:44 |
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"I don't think this will appeal to my perception of the general public so I must behave like my perception of the general public and not vote for it" is a very silly position.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:45 |
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Guess what, Parliament is all about undermining the opposition and blaming them for failing to achieve things they cannot possibly achieve. https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/07/28/labour-voters-blame-ed-miliband-not-policy-electio/ First it was Ed's fault, now it's Jeremy's. But before this it was Michael Howard, and before that it was IDS. It's not the only factor at play but it's a big one.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:45 |
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knox_harrington posted:Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. Boo loving hoo someone said something about you that you don't like nobody cares
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knox_harrington posted:I'm a left leaning voter but listening to McDonnell I am basically his enemy - there is no-one for me to vote for in this election. So you're left-leaning but you also don't think there's a problem with capitalism?
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:48 |
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knox_harrington posted:Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. John McDonnell is not going to ask you to starve to death in the street. That's a fairly important distinction from the other major party in this election, and one that's especially pressing with a hard Brexit looming. Seriously, the Conservatives are going to put millions out of work and then either let them die or enslave them (let's cut the bullshit about what workfare really is). There are few things that rank as a higher priority than that.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:49 |
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Haha 69
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:49 |
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Julio Cruz posted:So you're left-leaning but you also don't think there's a problem with capitalism? Left-leaning in the sense "I'm actually right-leaning but I don't like the sound of that so I tell everyone I'm centre-left"
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:50 |
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knox_harrington posted:Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. PM me if you'd like some techniques for coping with being on the receiving end of personal attacks. I can help.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:51 |
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The technique is be creepy in PMs.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:52 |
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Down with communism, said the "left wing", somehow.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:56 |
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OwlFancier posted:The technique is be creepy in PMs. How would you know you don't have PMs.
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:58 |
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OwlFancier posted:The technique is be creepy in PMs. The pms would be better if he had a good sig
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# ? May 1, 2017 20:58 |
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Theresa May is a creepy PM
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# ? May 1, 2017 21:00 |
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J_RBG posted:Theresa May is a creepy PM u sure about that?
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# ? May 1, 2017 21:00 |
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Barry the Sprout posted:Every time I see a YouGov polling survey I get really annoyed, because that's another 50p I haven't got. Instead I get endless polls on my coffee shop preferences. Same. I don't drink coffee so those tend to be really quick None Of These answers to all of it, and yet they keep asking.
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# ? May 1, 2017 21:19 |
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-transgender-candidate-mp-sophie-cook-general-election-a7712286.html A Labour Party candidate standing in the forthcoming general election could become the first transgender MP in Parliament’s history. Sophie Cook, an RAF engineer turned TV presenter, will contest the seat of East Worthing and Shoreham, which has been held by the Tories for two decades. The 50-year-old equality campaigner, who has three children, began transitioning in 1998 but only came out in 2015.
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I don't really fancy her chances, that seat has never really been in play even when Loughton was hit with scandals.
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# ? May 1, 2017 21:31 |
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Namtab posted:Haha 69 Ah the sex number, very nice. Also: https://twitter.com/BrianElects/status/859135427432853504
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# ? May 1, 2017 21:38 |
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As far as I know, the out trans candidates running this time are Helen Belcher (Lib Dem, Chippenham), Aimee Challenor (Green, Coventry South), Sophie Cook (Labour, West Worthing), and Zoe O'Connell (Lib Dem, Maldon). Of those, only Helen has a reasonable chance of winning; Chippenham was a Lib Dem seat during the coalition.
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TinTower posted:As far as I know, the out trans candidates running this time are Helen Belcher (Lib Dem, Chippenham), Aimee Challenor (Green, Coventry South), Sophie Cook (Labour, West Worthing), and Zoe O'Connell (Lib Dem, Maldon). Of those, only Helen has a reasonable chance of winning; Chippenham was a Lib Dem seat during the coalition. Reasonable might be overstating it, the Tories won with a majority of over ten thousand thanks to the Lib Dems loving themselves and their voters over.
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# ? May 1, 2017 21:56 |
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jabby posted:Reasonable might be overstating it, the Tories won with a majority of over ten thousand thanks to the Lib Dems loving themselves and their voters over. Zac Goldsmith had a majority of 23,000. I think the Tories are odds-on to hold onto Chippenham, but it could happen; nearly all of their council seats in Wiltshire are in Chippenham constituency.
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# ? May 1, 2017 22:00 |
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knox_harrington posted:Not supporting Assad, not believing in communism and not in favour of "fomenting the overthrow of capitalism" are not that weird. If you can look at capitalism and not think "yeah we need something to replace this" you either don't understand or you're a monster. Pick one. Money on you being a monster. Pissflaps posted:The Tories are shite. May is hopeless. Their campaign is garbage. Their Brexit position unravelling. Imagine if the UK population wasn't utter garbage? You keep voting Corbyn for the entirety of Britains ills and I'll blame the gobshite public for making GBS threads in their own bed. If May is so plainly poo poo as you say, what excuse does anyone have? They don't have to vote for May just because they don't like Corbyn. They could vote for another party or not vote. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 22:03 on May 1, 2017 |
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Sometimes I look at May's polling as a strong leader and wonder what the gently caress would happen if the conservatives ever did have an actual charismatic strongman as leader.
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# ? May 1, 2017 22:05 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:Sometimes I look at May's polling as a strong leader and wonder what the gently caress would happen if the conservatives ever did have an actual charismatic strongman as leader. They lost in 1945 iirc
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# ? May 1, 2017 22:16 |
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Pissflaps posted:The Tories are shite. May is hopeless. Their campaign is garbage. Their Brexit position unravelling. If we're going to do alternate history fanfiction can't we do something interesting. I'm going to imagine the Soviets just kept going after Berlin and the world is now full communism.
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# ? May 1, 2017 22:17 |
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namesake posted:Ah the sex number, very nice. "and never wrong" And loving never wrong What kind of question is this
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# ? May 1, 2017 22:19 |
Rigged Death Trap posted:"and never wrong" The parody sort.
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# ? May 1, 2017 22:20 |
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loving Brian.
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https://twitter.com/thepileus/status/859122057598128129
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The flags were a bad photo op but I don't think anything McDonnell said was actually that extreme.
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