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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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e: shows I know nothing about boxing

I don't even really mind

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

I thought I would share some spicy Karl Marx Quotes since its May Day but its bound to upset some people so I wont

Marx is alright do post.

He's not Stalin or anything.

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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Turns out Karl Marx was pretty redpilled

I think he didn't have kind words for any religion TBH.

Not that that's much of an excuse.

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Guavanaut posted:

Is that typical protocol? I would have thought that the Crown Court system, being all about centuries of customs and practice and Georgian wooly hats and The Right Honourable The Master of the Ham Rolls and all that would have been very careful to address the aristocracy 'correctly' evenespecially if they're in the dock.

Well he also managed to call the court "wankers" already too. If the tweed gilet wasn't contempt enough.

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mediadave posted:

the EU exit bill - what is this actually for?

Going by the BBC article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39789903
"There are reports in Brussels that the rising figure might include demands from countries like France and Poland for UK contributions to farm subsidies. "

it seems like it's for ongoing future EU expenditure. But, whatever you think of Brexit*, surely when the UK leaves the EU then, well, that should be the end to UK payments to EU programmes?



(*Disclaimer, against Brexit, genuine question)

A lot of it is things like pension obligations etc., which are pretty hard to defend reneging on, though of course those aren't going to be the ones the media would want to highlight.

As for the programmes, it depends. Say you have been given research funding for five years, with a lot of the work potentially taking place in the UK - does it now have to end?

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LemonDrizzle posted:

https://twitter.com/SarahLudford/status/860058892654587904


soon, soon we will be free of these meddling eurocrats and their insistence that we not flush turds directly into rivers, lakes, or any sea of our choosing!

Suddenly Call Me Dave's surf in the sewage gets a new patriotic meaning.

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big scary monsters posted:

I'm starting my move to another country tomorrow, as I promised previously in the thread I'm going to keep track of my expenses and post in a month or two what it cost me. I think last time it was about £2k over a couple of months but I didn't track it exactly. This time I think it might be a bit less.

It's not so bad in most countries, though moving to the UK can be a pain (not that anyone in this thread is likely to). You have to deal with not being able to get a bank account without an address/people not wanting to rent to you without a UK bank account (and sometimes a host of other things, like rental history and references), plus most places will charge you 6-12 months rent up front if you're a forrign without a domestic guarantor.

To be fair I heard that also happens in New York and Japan, but I'm not sure that says much in favour of it.

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Look, it's obvious that was one of May's pet fash laws. She's hardly going to give up on it now, is she.

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I'm going to say it lads.

The next parliamentary election result will really suck.

A very hot take I know.

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Seems like a good showing for Labour in Bristol though, someone earlier said that the Tories were winning there which was a bit :wtf:. If the Tories could win in Bristol they probably could most places.

E: Oh wait gently caress I went on local Twitter and they did win. What the hell you Bristol folks

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LemonDrizzle posted:

The Tories won the West of England metro mayoralty (which covers Bristol), with Labour coming second and the Lib Dems third. I don't think there were any other council elections in Bristol.

Yeah that's the one I meant. I know the rural parts are conservative, but still

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GaussianCopula posted:

It seems to me that the Tories will have effectively unified the center-right to far-right spectrum in their camp, while the center-left to far-left is splintered into many small parties, and therefore the UK (or England at some point?) will be governed by them until either the Left unifies or the right splinters again.

Nah that's, uhh, not the UK at all. It's just Labour and Tories mostly, with some Lib Dem thrown in (except for Scotland and NI).

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hakimashou posted:

A "loony" is anyone who thinks "jeremy corbyn should be leader of the labour party."

The test never needs to get to anything about policy.

Alternatively they are someone who cares about your leftie-bashing concern troll comments

Well maybe they're not loonies, but that doesn't make the second part of the sentence any less true

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Oberleutnant posted:

Aren't the Trussell Trust super dodgy? I have hazy memories of a scandal from a year or two ago but can't remember the details.

Fairly certain that's not what you mean, but the only one I remember was when a Sun reporter went in and lied about his poverty to get a week's worth of cheap food.

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jabby posted:

Andrew Marr today asking McDonnell the hard-hitting questions people want answers to, like 'are you a Marxist?'

Never mind the fact that 90% of the population doesn't know what Marxism is, it makes a good negative soundbite.

Somehow I don't see Marr asking May or Farage if they are Fascists.

Of course the problem is that the only correct answer either way is to lie, since equally bad sides blah blah blah.

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Regarde Aduck posted:

They don't know what Marxism is but they "know" it's "bad". The word has come to basically mean "traitor". Like when the alt-right goes on about "cultural marxists". The right has almost complete control of the word.

To be fair you could make a similar arguments for the left and Fascism, and maybe nationalism/nativism too. (and of course there was a time when racialist was a thing some people identified with)

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Wonder if we're talking "Send them to me, I know what to do with them *wink*" or "Should have gassed those loving hun to show them what for, now Junker is gobbling up the whole continent" or "No wonder that the Germans are turning to what they know in the face of refugee hordes and relentless globalism of their leaders" level of problematic comments.

e: On second thought probably all of those.

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Guavanaut posted:

Looks like Macron won though, and the centrist didn't even get a look in.



Eh he was a big part of the neoliberalness of Hollande's government, but that doesn't make him an arch-tory.

He's more like Umunna or something. Probably will act similar to the way the current (nominally) PS government does.

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Guavanaut posted:

"You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's Tories all the way down!"

Notice it's "left-right" on the y axis, not "economic left-right". Quite aside from the political compass being bad (and/or terribad), he's not an arch right-winger either; if you object to my using the word Tory.

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Maybe if he called them coconuts...

Hey-oh!

Or something. But he really should be higher up than Hamon.

Also he had support from Russia which is weird. Both Fillon and Le Pen did too to be fair.

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Guavanaut posted:

Normally the arch right-wingers end up in the upper right quadrant because they're not too keen on civil liberties either.

The one useful thing the compass does that the left-right spectrum fails miserably at is distinguishing between literal Strasserites and free market fetishists, otherwise you end up in the ridiculous situation of calling the one that wants to slash benefits and deregulate everything 'centrist' and calling the one that wants more jobs and welfare but death to Muslims 'far-right'.

Well yeah but it's lovely axis labelling then.

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TheRat posted:

It might be poo poo, but it's better than left-centre-right by a country mile.

I'm just being a pedant about how it should be labelled "economic left/economic right" rather than just "left/right". Because right now you get precisely the left-centre-right axis, but with added oppression-o-meter, or whatever it is supposed to be.

e: Also coming up with a scale to reduce economic policy to a line is hard. Was Blair economically to the right of, say, Churchill?

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quote:

LEAVE.EU 🇬🇧 ✔ @LeaveEUOfficial
WATCH | Macron walks out in Paris to EU anthem. Says it all - more integration, more devastation. #Presidentielle2017

I thought the problem was those bad folks who just refuse to integrate??? Help me out here

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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

They don't get satire either, or maybe it's just one big joke...

They do have the blue tickmark though.

Plus I recall reading some graun editorial about their tweets.

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Paperhouse posted:

Is Macron that right wing? Educate my baby brain please

He was the one who tried to "liberalise" French work laws under Hollande. (and then passed it on the minister for labour Khomri, thus it's known as Loi El Khomri)

But he used to be in the French Labour-equivalent too, until he quit to run against the leftist candidate (Hamon).

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Here's an Economist article about what Macron did in the government:

The economy minister must convince Brussels his reforms are liberal, and French Socialists they are not

It's the Economist so fairly liberal viewpoint, but it's a decent summary.

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TheRat posted:

He said he didn't have a mandate to tell people who to vote for, which I quite like.

He held a party referendum on it in fact.

I'm not sure if I'd prefer him much over Macron really, maybe if I were French, but cynically speaking his foreign policy was pretty crazy.

Hamon would've been great though. He almost got kicked out of PS for going against Hollande.

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Guavanaut posted:

So who are the far right and the far left allying together against the center? Neither of those labels seem to make much sense when both candidates outright rejected labels of left, right, and center, and one of them is pro welfare state but anti immigrant and the other is pro globalization but anti workers' rights?

I'm guessing from Macron it was a third-way play to get center-right voters on his side. In particular a lot of the more moderate people in LR didn't like Fillon because of his gay-hating ways (and later corruption scandals).

e: His rhetoric was really quite similar to Blair and Nu Labour.

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One more thing, while we're vaguely on topic of the French election, it's not like Hamon was "more of the same" candidate, even if he came from the same government as Macron (well he quit it in protest against his reforms) (then again Mélenchon also used to be a PS member until he split in 2008). Here's what his programme was for this election:

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Hamon wants to give all French citizens a basic income, believing that the availability of work will decrease due to automation. He supports a 35-hour workweek, and less if a worker chooses in exchange for state compensation, and supports the legalisation of cannabis and euthanasia. He also argues for sizeable investments in renewable energy, aiming for renewable sources to provide 50% of French energy by 2025, and wants to protect the "common goods" (water, air, biodiversity) in the Constitution. Hamon is also very critical of the neoliberal "myth of infinite economic growth", which he blames for "destroying the planet" and argues is a "quasi-religion" among politicians. "There is an urgency to change now our way to produce and consume. We can negotiate with bankers, but we can't negotiate with the planet."

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HJB posted:

Labour's immigration policy set to be revealed in ten days, key moment in the campaign perhaps.

It's probably going to be poo poo.

I'm just guessing though.

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DaWolfey posted:

They aren't debating each other. It'll be (presumably) 30 minutes with May, then 30 minutes with Corbyn
She'll be Strong and Stable all the way through.

Seems like it could be a good drinking game that.

Maybe somebody should put up a TV/IV thread for it.

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Oi that's a cheeky oval office. Imo naturalisation should be banned for sportspeople.

Or parents of potential sportspeople, get some genetic testing up in here. Never again would we have to listen an obviously foreign-named athlete being called British.

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Cerv posted:

condolences for every poster ITT caught in the Guardian Soulmates data breach

I know a guy who does web and interactive graphics stuff at graun.

... I wonder if he still works there. (doesn't sound like it was entirely their fault though)

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jabby posted:

The dreaded Labour anonymous source.

AKA Simon Danczuk talking to a Telegraph reporter

e: probably, maybe

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Looks like he won't be getting a very cozy place at Murdoch media after all.

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Acaila posted:

For what it's worth, I do love UKMT's total intolerance for fascist racist cunts. I hate the "agree to disagree, everyone's entitled to their opinion" pish that sees such arseholes getting put up with, plus it helps any newbs know who to avoid.

Actually planning to watch Question Time tonight for the first time in forever.

I've read so many semi-trolling far-right posts in this subforum that I reckon I could pretty effortlessly write trolling garbage like that myself. sometimes I feel the urge to

I'm not counting Pissflaps among that group though.

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big scary monsters posted:

I liked LastPass but they've had a number of security holes found of late (by a Google security researcher, and they were all patched promptly, but still). Other popular managers that I have not used and which may also have security holes, but at least they haven't been made public yet, are Keepass and 1password. I believe both differ from LastPass in that you store the vault yourself, rather than them doing it on their server. This is potentially more secure but if you gently caress up then you're hosed. Dropbox is a popular option for storing your vault to make it accessible across devices and probably recoverable if you accidentally delete it.

Keepass at least is pretty good. It's a bit no-frills compared to other options but it works well.

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jabby posted:

Even if he did he'd be too late to register to stand, so you'd have a leader who wasn't in the House of Commons. It's moronic.

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/863492244300550145

UKIP on 3% :eyepop:

Labour fightback is on!

Just 20 points to go

It would really be nice if they could get there. Alas, I don't think they will.

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Jose posted:

cheers jeremy

Saying jeremy is bigoted and sexist, please desist :mrgw:

Though there's something to be said about how it happened to Hunt rather than someone named, say, Lock

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IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


I don't care if it's a gimmick or not, tankie mod best mod

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