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are we sure this isn't a joke about the fact as a Luxembourger, Juncker does in fact speak German or am I being way too optimistic?
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I think a lot of that is those people see young people blaming old people for stuff like the Brexit vote and post stiff about WW2 without realising that they are in fact the lovely old people are complaining about and WW2 veterans are mostly dead.
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May 2, 2017 08:44
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Namtab posted:He also said that Hitler did nothing wrong. Conservatives (+2)
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May 3, 2017 08:54
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All the speculation is Philip. So be prepared for a highlights reel of all his oh so hilarious racism.
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May 4, 2017 04:25
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If it's Phillip, I do feel bad for those guys on PNG(?) who worship him as a god. It can't be easy to see your god die.
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May 4, 2017 04:44
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Teddybear posted:So when should I watch BBC news to get the full royal death experience? Did they announce a time? BBC don't even have anything up on their website yet
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May 4, 2017 04:51
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OwlFancier posted:If the queen's kharked it then that's going to make for a fun election wildcard. I guarantee they find a photo of him laughing or smiling at some point in the next few weeks and we get a headline along the lines of "SICK CORBYN'S JOY AS NATION MOURNS"
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May 4, 2017 06:50
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BBC have broken their silence to say it's nothing.
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May 4, 2017 08:21
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Igiari posted:If there is any big royal news, the meeting may have been whether or not to disclose any today, given that it could severely disrupt the local elections going on. good point, hopefully the olds are too concerned with the Queen's mortality to go out and vote today.
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May 4, 2017 09:06
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Seems pretty dumb they announced this on an election day. maybe he really did die and they needed to come up with a cover to stop it from affecting election day even more once the news of the meeting leaked
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May 4, 2017 11:38
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Pissflaps posted:Just voted Lib Dem I am very disappointed and retract my statement from a few weeks back when I said you were a good lad who means well.
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Pissflaps posted:Weird looks like half my previous post went missing. What it should have said is I have a sneaking suspicion that wasn't an accident and you did it on purpose for reasons unknown but I still retract my retraction
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May 4, 2017 12:32
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the US election gave us fake news, maybe this election will give us fake people.
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big scary monsters posted:FYI you do NOT get a sticker when voting this time around. It's barely even worth bothering. doesn't even seem to be a Facebook option to show everyone you voted beyond manually typing it as a status update like some web 1.0 bullshit. It's like they don't even want us to vote.
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May 4, 2017 14:42
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Is that West Midlands mayoral election result correct and is it the same electorate as the West Midlands EU Parliament seat? Because wtf if so.
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May 5, 2017 13:48
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haakman posted:Norwich report: city council is Labour. 0 Tory seats. make Clive Lewis the commissar of the independent soviet of Norwich.
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AP posted:Macron congratulations on being so politically unaware that you can't tell the difference between a presidential election conducted under a run off system and a first past the post parliamentary election. serious gaylord posted:I genuinely couldn't even imagine it would be this bad. a respectable third place for Plaid Cymru. Maybe they should expand nationally under the justification this all belonged to the cymry before the perfidious Saxons and the even more perfidious Scots infested our fair isle.
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May 6, 2017 03:22
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Grapplejack posted:You know, you could just hold your nose and vote for Labour, even if you disagree with Corbyn's policies. most people in this topic who aren't massive fans of Corbyn are still voting Labour and have more of a problem with his incompetence than his policies.
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You don't want the Conservatives to win, do you??
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May 6, 2017 08:35
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two years ago today we reached the pinnacle of hard hitting serious journalism never forget
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AP posted:En Marche! was formed just over a year ago and Tory tactics for this election are obviously at attempt turn it into a presidential style election. Yes, the outcome will be decided by FPTP, well done, now if only there was a bunch of unhappy incumbents who had no confidence in Corbyn who thought they'd nothing much to lose. they'd split the left vote between themselves and Labour candidates? The point about it being a presidential run off vs FPTP was to help you realise that the circumstances that allowed Macron to sneak his way into the second round and in fact aided and abetted by left wing splitters.
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Ewan posted:
Chuka Umunna was already mooting changing the party name to the Democrats during his abortive leadership campaign
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May 6, 2017 10:36
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Ewan posted:To similar to "Liberal Democrats". And, to most people, the word "Liberal" still has a meaning of progressiveness, openness, so opens the obvious "Well you're the non-Liberal democrats then!" Also changing the party's name back then probably would have led to someone else registering the name 'Labour' and stealing a bunch of Labour voters as Chuka's Democrats desperately try to get the word out that they're the real Labour Party. Any scenario where Chuka didn't drop out in 2015 realistically ends up with Andy Burnham leading the party right now though. Comrade Cheggorsky posted:good lord the meltdowns in this thread, its going to be one long dark night of the soul when the jam mans incompetence gives May a landslide in June my bold prediction is it won't be a landslide, Tories gain in the low double digits. As usual the anti-Corbyn lot exaggerating how bad things are going to be allows the Corbyn die hards to claim victory and double down. Everyone loses. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 10:50 on May 6, 2017 |
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TheRat posted:One of the biggest failures of the Labour party the past decade is failing to publicly defend spending during the crash. The Tories have pumped Labour spending for all it's worth and then some, and for some hosed up reason Labour decided the Tories were right and refused to defend it. I feel this way too. Labour people will rightfully defend the good things the party did last time it was in power when the attacks come from Corbynites but meekly accepted the "Labour overspent" argument when it came from the Tories.
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May 6, 2017 10:50
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AP posted:Thanks but I don't really need the help of someone who supports Corbyn to explain why a politician is popular. You're not just not equipped for the task. I don't support Corbyn and you're dumb as gently caress. I'm not even saying the party won't split. I'm saying that a split party wouldn't gain power like Macron did unless the very specific set of circumstances that went right for him also happened here being a) the left wing rump Labour Party would need to split again to reflect the situation in France b) the Conservatives would need to undergo some major corruption scandal to reflect what happened to Fillon (okay this one's within the boundaries of the imagination) c) some far right bogeyman would need to emerge, preferably with vaguely left wing economic views to drive ex-Tories towards your new neoliberal splitter party. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 11:40 on May 6, 2017 |
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Kegluneq posted:I don't disagree that it's a decision that put him against his base. I just don't see what else he or anyone else could do. Labour are haemorrhaging support from pro-leave voters, not remainers. How would a free vote have put him in a stronger position with those voters? they're losing leavers to the Tories but do the polls reflect remainers who might stay home because they feel no-one represents them?
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To add to Burnham flip flopping talk. He ran his 2010 leadership campaign as a Blairite and got soundly defeated as his Blairite mates rallied around David Miliband, and then for whatever reason, genuine political conversion, power lust, or according to some reports a personal grudge against former friends who didn't back him in 2010, he moved toward the Brownite wing of the party and before Corbyn came in at the 11th hour, he was the most left option for the leadership election.
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Horseshoe theory posted:I thought the AKP's voter base are the big cities, actually? the make Erdogan dictator referendum got passed in the rural areas, I'm not sure where his voterbase is in general elections but I imagine people who usually vote against him wouldn't vote to give him more power. I could be wrong though.
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as far as Lib Dem battlebus mishaps go, it's a distant second to that kid's trousers falling down while taking a selfie with Clegg.
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Interesting that UKIP got more Lib Dem voters than Labour voters. Throws into doubt the idea that people went Labour -> UKIP -> Tory.
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Guavanaut posted:They did try to court the right-libertarian vote in 2015. In a typical kipper fashion of "don't worry, we'll only be authoritarian against those who don't integrate", but it might have swayed a few. this is talking about 2010 Lib Dem voters who switched to UKIP in 2015. I know my mam voted Lib Dem in 2005 and 2010 after voting Labour all her life because she hated Big Tone, and I suspect she voted UKIP in 2015. Working class people who hated the Tories and were turned off Labour by Blair had nowhere other than the Lib Dems to go until UKIP came along unless they wanted to vote BNP who definitely had more of a 'you are a full racist if you vote for them' than UKIP managed to garner.
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May 9, 2017 10:53
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OwlFancier posted:Don't think you need any photoshop to make Young Jeremy Corbyn a solid Would. 
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pointsofdata posted:It would be an even better policy at, say, 50k are you okay there, mate?
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May 18, 2017 07:59
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goddamnedtwisto posted:He's only been an MP (or indeed a politician at all) for two years. Some would see that as an advantage though. Head of the CPS is impressive sounding though
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May 21, 2017 10:17
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I can see a lower turnout among olds and a better turnout among the young making it not as bad as everyone feared at the beginning. There'll probably be a bunch of old people who won't vote for Corbyn but don't want to lose their winter fuel allowance.
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May 22, 2017 13:43
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TheRat posted:Rumour has it there's an "interesting" poll coming out of Wales today. Please be Plaid domination
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May 22, 2017 13:55
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This is the first British election where people born after the premiere of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace can vote
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May 22, 2017 14:43
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Oh good we came to our loving senses. As far as I'm concerned a Welsh person voting Tory is basically treason.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I'm scared lads man this strategy is going to backfire when everyone gets in the voting booth and can't find the Theresa May party to vote for.
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