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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's 2017?

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Taintrunner posted:

American here, is there any reason I don't want Corbyn to win?

If May wins we take back the "stupidest country on the planet" title belt.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

JFairfax posted:

i dunno turkey just voted to have a dictatorship

I mean, that's a very classical way to get a dictatorship.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It will be a return to glorious Empire, so the cannon, obviously.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'd vote for the kill you are selves tories platform.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TomViolence posted:

Eh, age of consent's 16 in the UK so while what he did was creepy, sleazy and career suicide it wasn't actually illegal afaik.

Isn't there a thing where it's higher if you're in a position of authority over the person?

If being an MP doesn't count for that it should, given their proclivities.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

cosmically_cosmic posted:

By that logic MP's wouldn't be able to have sex with anyone. Well, anyone who isnt an MP, royalty, or large Tory donor.

EDIT: Or a pig*

I'm fine with this outcome. Though I think it just raises the AOC to 18 or something.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Only if they're in loco parentis (so teachers, social workers, medical practitioners, etc), and then the prohibition continues beyond 18 in some circumstances. An MP has literally no authority over anyone by design - they're representatives, not feudal lords.

On the other hand they're all sex pests apparently so maybe there should be a law.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

I don't think Simon Danczuk should be having sex.

Never forget the Morning Star's perfect use of the creative linebreak.



That's loving great.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I wonder sometimes if politician have as much trouble identifying all of the flags as I do.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

"I don't think this will appeal to my perception of the general public so I must behave like my perception of the general public and not vote for it" is a very silly position.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The technique is be creepy in PMs.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

loving Brian.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Namtab posted:

I'm not sure Soviet communism is the style of communism people want. I'm hoping for something where capitalism is a thing of the past, but without thought police and gulags

It would be interesting to see what the suppression of Capitalism as an idea would do the the political landscape mind.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

You should vote for the person who will govern the best but people don't always and they're dumb for not doing so.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

loving lol at dobbing yourself into the rozzers for throwing yogurt.

Sent to prison for causing a fromage frais.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Theresa May in the dingy room of patriotism.

It's like a goon basement except with union flags instead of anime body pillows.

We hope instead, rather than as well...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I don't think May is particularly strong and I definitely don't think she is very stable.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


Horrible taste in coffee seems p class agnostic tbh.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

You can get as good as if not better coffee at everywhere that isn't costa or starbucks. And probably cheaper.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm the twerking class.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Where does that go in the Marxian model?

Fundamentally wealthier than the petit buttgeoisie.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I continue to maintain that starbucks and costa serve invariably minging coffee and you can get equivalently minging coffee anywhere in the country. Or make your own with some powder and a kettle. Except why would you when you can have beef tea instead.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He's not very centrist other than the bit where he is actually a social democrat.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

namesake posted:

That's a pretty :psyduck: statement right there.

He's centrist if you include tankies, like the tories are centrist if you include military juntas.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

namesake posted:

No I mean I agree, his platform is a pacifist social democrat (welfare state for my country, you arrange your part of the world yourself, let's negotiate all the joint stuff). His radicalism, his non-centrism only goes as far as that platform does and the fact that the far left has rallied around him since he entered the leadership contest.

And I would suggest that because we live in a nominal democracy, and will continue to do so for the forseeable future, it is a bit silly to restrict the use of the political axis across the actual major political participants because they're all, relatively speaking, in the middle of the axis if you extend the axis to include libertarian dystopia-turned-effective-monarchy and revolutionary anarcho communist syndicalist free association utopia.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Just put a picture of May's head next to Thatcher's head on a bunch of billboards.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

forkboy84 posted:

But this is the sort of dumb perspective that ends up with extreme ideologies like monetarism being normalised into the mainstream as the new centrism, and ends up with moderate ideologies like Corbyn's being painted as extreme. There is no way this is positive or helpful. Sure, I might think it'd be great if Jeremy was calling for a new wave of syndicalism to hit the nation, but my views are quite outwith the norm. Corbyn's aren't (aside from on defence). What's the value in pretending they are?

The policies are what they are, I think a democratic socialist platform would be good for the country and is not historically extremely left even within Britain's political landscape, but it is quite firmly left, especially compared to much of the prevailing policy for the last 40 years.

The idea that there is a single objective center which doesn't move ignores the concept of the political zeitgeist which is the context in which politics are processed by the majority of people who aren't super interested in the last several hundred years of history.

Corbyn's politics are not radical because they fall within perfectly reasonable and frankly very old ideas about how a country is run, so characterizing them as radical or extreme is silly because that implies some new never before tried thing. Characterizing him as a centrist because he isn't a tankie is just... really stupid unless you think that tankies have any relevance in modern politics, other than as a backboard for John McDonnell.

It is not helpful for the same reason that median annual temperature graphs where the Y axis goes from 0C to 100C are not helpful.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 2, 2017

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Regarde Aduck posted:

Corbyn Dex build

May Strength build using dark sword before nerf patch

Corbyn 2h STR build because he likes doing the abyss watcher fight by punting them across the room with the poke.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Lord Flaps, First Viscount Piss.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TheRat posted:

I quite like this Ed Miliband lad, he seems to have a healthy touch of humour

https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/status/859492994453573633

E: Imagine Theresa May doing this:



I imagine she'd run over the cord and kill herself having never touched a lawnmower in her life.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Does she live in a park in a shed?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

We might have to remortgage the national house.

Which is to say the one house that is still socialized by 2022.

Fortunately by then due to the pound drop and the housing bubble it will probably be worth 100bn pounds so it will work out fine.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TomViolence posted:

ffs bombs are dropped by the air force

Mills Bombs :colbert:

But yes in general I agree wholly, no bombs for our army.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Because he's a tit and your life will be improved if you put him on ignore.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If the queen's kharked it then that's going to make for a fun election wildcard.

Headline: "QUEEN DIES OF LACK OF PATRIOTISM COS CORBYN DIDN'T BOW ENOUGH"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Voted for the Tees Valley mayor, Lab 1st Lib 2nd, I actually didn't know it was a multiple choice so I was expecting to only vote Lab but given the other options wer Con/UKIP I figured it's better a lovely lib get it than them if Labour can't.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Pissflaps posted:

The liberal democrat wants to build a hyperloop.

To... Where?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Pissflaps posted:

Across the river tees.

Wait is a hyperloop one of those stupid underground vacuum train death tubes that Elon Musk wants to build or is it something else?

Because google is telling me it's one of those and I... don't think you need one of those to go over the river.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

forkboy84 posted:

Do you not just have a footbridge to get across the Tees?

There's quite a few bridges, some of them very fancy like Newport bridge which has a massive pulley system on it to lift the middle up.



Though it doesn't work any more. I think there's a footbridge at Stockton.

A tramline would be nice, we used to have trams in the town center a long time ago.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:06 on May 4, 2017

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