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They changed that, rent goes to the person claiming benefits and then paid on. They found that if people lost their jobs and had to claim benefits then the landlords would kick them out, this way (unless they know you well) they have no way of knowing if the rent comes from you or housing benefit.
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Yesterday at the forumula 1; the Finnish and German national anthems played in Russia with Putin stood there on the Podium completely deadpan. Then instead of leaving the podium he waited for the champagne spraying music to get into full swing, while three formula 1 drivers just stood awkwardly looking at each other holding bottles and without any balls, before calmly exiting stage left,
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May 1, 2017 17:30
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My boomer dad still bangs on and on about how bananas were still rationed in the 1950s like it's justification for hanging on to his enormous 4 bedroom house where only three rooms get used, instead of moving to a smaller one and freeing it up for a family to buy. He also holds very strong opinions about imagrants coming over here and taking up all the houses that should be used for good honest Brits. He's Australian.
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May 2, 2017 09:21
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If the press already know what's happened then there is no reason to be outside the palace waiting for news, they can spend that time writing and down saville row fighting over the last black tie.
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May 4, 2017 07:48
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I like Philip  he's the nation's slightly racist old grandpa being forced to go to places he really does not want to be by his wife, so is getting as much entertainment value out of it as possible by taking the piss in the full knowage that she cant yell at him for it in public.
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May 4, 2017 07:57
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Serotonin posted:Slightly? Yeah racism is really funny. What's funny is that Philip is demonstrating what the Quality are really thinking behind all the smiles and platitudes. At least the old bastard's honest.
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May 4, 2017 08:05
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Metro article shows something that looks suspiciously like a black horse drawn hearse, if it's not total bullshit and they are just doing rehearsals for later, it's not a royal hearse. Camilla?
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May 4, 2017 08:34
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I will put up with liberal whinging about Brexit from southern keyboard warriors all day long, but Philip is a treasure and I'm voting Tory today to spite you. .
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May 4, 2017 09:36
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Yeh they were using a mildly interesting announcement as a dress rehearsal for when the queen conks it. There was an aweful stink when Queen Mary of Teck was bedbound and she woke up in the morning to a full dress rehearsal for her own funeral going on - what made it a comedy of errors was that the old harridan was very much alive and kicking and tore everyone involved a new one.
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May 4, 2017 10:22
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/9df67e0e-cf05-4eaa-91ce-0f5527e97d14/derbyshire-county-council If this falls to the Tories then we will know labour are truly hosed. It would take some form of catastrophic gently caress up for People who live in houses built by the coal board to vote Tory.
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May 5, 2017 08:11
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learnincurve posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/9df67e0e-cf05-4eaa-91ce-0f5527e97d14/derbyshire-county-council Well then. Labour hosed level at maximum.
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May 5, 2017 14:00
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If you look at the breakdowns for a lot of the wards which switched to Tory in Derbyshire, less than 100 votes in it, one ward has a 20 vote difference. That's 21 people sat at home thinking "no way anyone round here would vote Tory" and that my internet friends is how labour lost the northern territories.
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May 5, 2017 16:16
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 Turns out Tories won Derbyshire by repeatedly promising to remove the Matlock parking charges. They may be evil but at least they were competent enough to find out what all the people with very little in their lives (aka old people) were bitching most about.
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May 5, 2017 16:28
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Is pissflaps still trying to blame one single man for the collapse of the Labour Party councils, even those councils which are in Scotland?
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May 5, 2017 17:05
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We have basements in the UK? Does anyone know of anyone with a basement? I'd imagine they live in Cheshire/Essex as old money all have cellars with wine in them, and normal people have concrete poured over the foundations.
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May 5, 2017 17:27
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Is Dave Wilcox the same guy who didn't bother sending leaflets or canvas in this area because it was a Labour safe seat, or the same guy who let the Tories buy the front page of the Derbyshire times and then put in a one page wall of text statement around that entertainment section no one cares about?
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May 5, 2017 21:34
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I'm all for calling Corbin incompetent but that guy really is full of poo poo. "They wanted to vote Labour, they really did. It was how they had always voted. Two men felt they would be betraying their fathers by voting any other way. They weren’t overly impressed by May, though several volunteered that she seemed “strong” (even if all but two of them said they’d never heard the slogan “strong and stable leadership” – a phrase repeated ad nauseam by the Conservative campaign). But they just couldn’t bring themselves to vote Labour." 
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May 5, 2017 21:39
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I really do have some sympathy for Corbyn at this point that Wilcox guy hosed up the campaign for Derbyshire, by not you know, organising any. But the grass roots really do seem as incompetent and poo poo as the top level people and the press seem fixated on taking down one man. Getting rid of Corbyn won't be the magic fix if the foundations are hosed.
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May 5, 2017 21:48
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Ex-trade union people are the worst for being small men who know they would have been important in their own sphere if the Unions still had power and so grab at any power they can. You find them on committees campaigning for stuff and complaining bitterly about councils while doing everything they can to annoy them.
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May 5, 2017 22:02
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I'm still going to go with if the local labour councillors don't bother campaigning or sending out leaflets because they, like Kinnock, believe the election to be in the bag, and the Tory councillors buy four pages, including the front cover, of a local newspaper with a very high circulation and send in Theresa loving May to Clay Cross of all places, then it might not be entirely Corbyn's fault that they suffered monumental losses in the Derbyshire council elections. Edit: seriously, all they needed to do was go "poo poo they've got one over on us, Jeramy you need to come down here quick and point at a couple of closed down banks looking angry!" learnincurve fucked around with this message at 01:09 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 01:02
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It costs nothing to knock on doors, it was utter complacency at a grass roots level. They assumed that there was no way a ex-mining area would vote Tory. They were in part right, In a few areas they didnt, they voted Lib dem instead of labour which was unfortunate because the lib dem areas all voted Tory.
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May 6, 2017 01:26
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I'm not sure why people who don't like May bring up the fact that she campaigned for remain? Sucking it up and respecting that the majority won the vote, and proactively working to get the least poo poo deal instead of bitching about it does play very well with most voters.
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May 6, 2017 09:30
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Replacing Corbyn won't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome of this general election, it's far too close to do anything but distract from campaigning to save all the seats they can. Only thing that would happen is the new person would have losing a general election as the first thing on their leadership CV, and that would be lunacy. It's politics 101. FYI, the reason a lot of people only come into this thread when something major happens is because when nothing is going on it's the same circlejerk about Corbyn going on and on and on and on and it's all really rather predictable and dull at this point. learnincurve fucked around with this message at 12:52 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 12:47
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drat, I thought i was in skinner's area and it turns out the Labour candidate is some posh bint from the south who was parachuted into a Tory hating Labour stronghold and still managed to nearly get beaten by the Tory candidate last time. Mostly by being an odious cow who hosed off down to London and kept going on maternity leave, and doing silly things like getting caught out fiddling her expenses. Not a cats chance in hell she gets my vote. The Labour Party Ladies and Gentemen, so drat complacent in the north where they think they can still totally rely on people's hatred of Thatcher when a lot of the people who couldn't just loving let it go, let it go when she died or they did.
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May 7, 2017 00:20
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I think not Nantab. It's raw stupidity to vote somone terrible into parliament just because of the party they belong to, "oh they may have done gently caress all for our area, fiddled expenses, and eaten all those people but at least they aint Tory!" It does not make it any less stupid because a lot of people do it, it's how we ended up with a load of "career politicians" in power instead of people who actually give a poo poo about the people they represent. I'll do what I usually do when I dislike the major candidates and that's vote for the independent to try and help them keep their deposit or, if they only get a few votes, to cause them a little confusion when they try and work out where that extra vote came from.
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May 7, 2017 00:31
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Oh it won't make a lick of difference but it's a far more effective way of demonstrating displeasure at the candidates than spoiling the ballot like a lot of people do. I know why they do it and it's because of the mistaken belief that spoiled ballots will be included in the statistics when the reality is that the BBC have never said "and 11,000 people drew a picture of a penis"
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May 7, 2017 00:38
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Don't worry it will be some old fella who's pissed off that they are planning on fracking near his nice detached house in the countryside and is prepared to drop the money for the deposit in raising the issue.
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May 7, 2017 00:45
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think, and therefore might be terribly wrong, that most remainers have given up on the issue and just aren't voting. Which is a pity because they're playing into the self-fulfilling prophecy that remainers don't exist and the country is united. Anyone who's even glanced at the guardian or independent/i100 since we voted leave is painfully aware that remainers exist. I especially don't enjoy the i100s unshakable belief that everyone outside of London is racist , and that is the only possible explanation for THE HORROR OH WOE, WOE IS ME.
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May 7, 2017 08:12
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There is being constructive in defeat and then there is pointing at everyone who disagrees with you and screaming RACIST. It annoys people who are not, and not many people who are actually racists are self aware enough to recognise that they are so it puts their backs up as well.
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May 7, 2017 09:10
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I do wonder who the press say are using a food bank vs actually uses food banks vs who needs to use a food bank. Having now googled I didn't realise that The Trussell Trust who run most of them, (all of them in our area are this trust) work on a means tested and referral basis "People are referred to the food banks by doctors, social services, CAB and police who assess need to ensure that it is genuine. Visitors are given vouchers for three days' worth of food, with each visitor eligible for no more than three vouchers.[8][10] Visitors are also signposted to agencies that can help with longer-term difficulties." Tbh the idea that somone on a nurse's wages would get referred to these people without it being because social services had discovered that they had a massive drug problem is silly.
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May 7, 2017 12:59
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The problem with this whole hospital parking thing is that a great many of our hospitals are trusts or the parking is controlled by the council. I'm not sure how government could do anything about it but pay the trusts or the councils the money that they would lose, and it wouldn't help the other issue, and that's that when they were free you couldn't get a parking spot in many hospitals because commuters would use them as free parking while they were at work or shopping, so they were always full from 8:30-5:30. The practical and sensible solution is to make sure there are enough bus routes. But I can tell you from experience that that won't work, because I worked in a hospital with an incredibly good bus service linked to every corner of the city, and people still couldn't bare to leave their precious cars at home.
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May 8, 2017 21:13
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Do you know how big even a average sized NHS hospital car park is or just how many people use them a day? Holy poo poo, you would be queuing for an hour for one of the big multi story car parks in Sheffield. That's without going into the fact that a lot of hospitals have automated receptions with one or two real people on the counters. Putting in more reception desks would mean re-renovating (at about 1 million a pop) all those lobby areas that just got converted into automated systems. The obvious come back would be to get it stamped on the wards, but then you would have people queuing on the wards at visiting time. Plus there would be the monumental cost of having everything linked up to some sort of internal parking validation system.
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May 8, 2017 21:39
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Steve2911 posted:Cool then making the parking free for everyone is the best solution and still makes more sense than charging. And then we go right back to commuters using them as free parking. Only solution I can see is to have a manned A&E free parking area, staff parking area, and then a paid area but to do more work on encouraging people to use the existing bus services. Most people really don't need to bring the car and then bitch about how much it cost to park, when the busses cost much less and are free to a great number of hospital patients/visitors anyway.
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May 8, 2017 21:59
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That mr jones is a popular fellow, he had 418 visitors today  I'm old so remember the old stamp systems they used to have in department stores. There was always a nice young junkie lad hanging about with a stamper he'd filched who would charge people 50p to validate their ticket.
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May 8, 2017 22:07
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Ah. NE Derbyshire is one of those pivotal labour safe seat/"how hosed are Labour" areas. Our Tory candidate is a nice local lad who's dad was a milkman, and was the first one in his mining family to go to university. This lad tried to get in last election and only narrowly lost, possibly because he looked about 12 at the time, and he's been spending his time since then listening to the olds and doing charity. He's mostly campaigning on the anti-fracking thing. Vs some posh Labour bint. What the hell is wrong with the Labour selection people with this complacent bullshit? Do they really think we still see the spectre of Maggie looming over the Tory party going boogity boogity boo.
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May 9, 2017 12:12
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People will blame Corbyn but it's going to happen again and again until they look at the selection process and actually pick suitable candidates for each indervidual area. This lad isn't going to win because he's Tory, he's going to win because he's a local lad who genuinely seems to know what the constituents want and doesn't seem to be a chunt. At this rate it's going to be The Labour Party leader Dennis Skinner sat there on his own aged 107 surrounded by a sea of blue.
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May 9, 2017 12:24
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Labour/Corbyn just went all "New Socialism" on us.
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May 9, 2017 13:02
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm probably late with this but still: We are here for the beer, anything else is secondary.
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May 9, 2017 14:41
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Remember that story in the guardian when some home counties school was bitching and moaning because they had had their funding cut but if you actually read the article the funding was reduced so that they were on the same level as schools not in the Home Counties. They were pissed as hell that they would have to either get rid of teachers resulting in these poor mites being crammed in 20 to a classroom, or sell the brand new school coach that was being used to take children out for free day trips and adventure holidays in France. The guardian commentators and callers to the Jeramy Vine show were OUTRAGED.
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I googled, one of them is 19 that kid and another one is 20. I found two buttons Facebook before my iPad died and he has quite the neckbeard in some of the photos. The questions why and how still remained unanswered.
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