UKMT May 2017: Weak and Wobbly vs. Old and Knobbly

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I thought I would share some spicy Karl Marx Quotes since its May Day but its bound to upset some people so I wont

# ¿ May 1, 2017 14:46

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Private Speech posted:

Marx is alright do post.

He's not Stalin or anything.

okay here you go

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Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets.

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It is now perfectly clear to me that, as the shape of his head and the growth of his hair indicate, he is descendant from the negroes who joined in the flight of Moses from Egypt (unless his mother or grandmother on the father�s side was crossed with a friend of the family). Now this union of Jewishness to Germanness on a negro basis was bound to produce an extraordinary hybrid. The importunity of the fellow is also nwordlike.

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What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.�. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man � and turns them into commodities�. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange�. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.

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Direct slavery is as much the pivot upon which our present-day industrialism turns as are machinery, credit, etc. Without slavery there would be no cotton, without cotton there would be no modern industry. It is slavery which has given value to the colonies, it is the colonies which have created world trade, and world trade is the necessary condition for large-scale machine industry. Consequently, prior to the slave trade, the colonies sent very few products to the Old World, and did not noticeably change the face of the world. Slavery is therefore an economic category of paramount importance. Without slavery, North America, the most progressive nation, would he transformed into a patriarchal country. Only wipe North America off the map and you will get anarchy, the complete decay of trade and modern civilisation. But to do away with slavery would be to wipe America off the map

# ¿ May 1, 2017 14:55

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forkboy84 posted:

Yes, the UK Marxism Thread will be outraged by Marx quotes

Oh, of course you pick up antisemitic quotes. How clever.

Turns out Karl Marx was pretty redpilled

# ¿ May 1, 2017 14:58

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Guavanaut posted:

Schopenhauer said some bad things about Jews and black Americans in the early 19th century so I'm going to disregard everything he said about animal rights and kick a dog.

I always thought he was more of a cat guy

# ¿ May 1, 2017 15:14

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Spangly A posted:

george orwell didn't like jews either but he really didn't like bulgarians

can't believe the right's lack of concern for the poor slated peoples of bulgaria

even Uncle Bulgaria?

# ¿ May 1, 2017 15:17

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Karloff posted:

So what will be the favoured form of capital punishment in post-brexit Britain?

Being dragged onto the Jeremy Kyle show to be humiliated in front of a petit-bourgeois fuckface audience while they laugh and gawp at you like its a Victorian freakshow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KMrJGz3EIg

# ¿ May 1, 2017 15:56

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhzG0xmy6oo

# ¿ May 9, 2017 00:29

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lol

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# ¿ May 9, 2017 00:40

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Not So Fast posted:

At this rate the only outlet Corbyn will speak to will be The Canary.

Are they good at speaking?

They seem to have little brains being canaries

# ¿ May 9, 2017 18:18

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Mu. posted:

Steve Rotheram was my MP, and I voted for him for Metro Mayor with a heavy heart because I did not want that fat bag of shite Joe Anderson as my next MP. I'm glad he was pipped to the post by literally anyone.

Fatshaming should be against the rules

# ¿ May 9, 2017 21:55

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Jose posted:

the guy who tried to scam ladbrokes on twitter is a sov cit with a series of him getting arrested lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx74EYZ06Es

The solution with bailiffs is to ring the police and don't open the door to them

# ¿ May 9, 2017 21:57

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Alertrelic posted:

Free tuition works fine in England's European neighbors, like Scotland.

As a English taxpayer im tired of paying for Scotland's free methadone and degrees in postmodern literature

# ¿ May 10, 2017 22:23

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A strong and stable dictatorship

# ¿ May 10, 2017 22:38

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhzG0xmy6oo

Jahanskino

# ¿ May 14, 2017 04:42

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Lord of the Llamas posted:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-2017-james-heappey-tory-mp-referendum-scottish-national-party-a7735311.html

Hilarious!

Unable to handle the bants m8?

# ¿ May 14, 2017 21:38

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lCcFjRhiaw

# ¿ May 14, 2017 21:54

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gq3rv8Gjko

# ¿ May 14, 2017 21:55

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j235O9ktnk0

# ¿ May 14, 2017 22:00

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TheRat posted:

How about you go gently caress yourself you thundercunt?

"haha we should disband NATO and leave Eastern Europe open to be sucked into Russia's sphere of influence"

# ¿ May 14, 2017 23:01

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Namtab posted:

Do you still wish Russia had been obliterated in nuclear fire?

I wish we all were obliterated in nuclear fire!

# ¿ May 15, 2017 02:46

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ronya posted:

hot take time: a look into English politics twenty years down the road

Americans are super weird about what they spend there tax money on

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/joy-as-library-stays-open-1-8536299

Every time they start threatening to shut libraries in the Lancashire County Council and Blackpool Borough Council there is a huge kickoff over it

We won't get to the state of America anytime soon

# ¿ May 15, 2017 02:54

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Evil_Urna posted:

When was the last time an American professional athlete was called the N word from the stands? Or had bananas thrown at him? Now when was the last time in Europe? At least in America we talk about our issues with racism. You all try and hide it and keep it quiet, but it is now, and has always been far worse there.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/map-shows-europes-racist-countries-britain-isnt-one-134811816.html

Lol Italy and Spain may be racist as poo poo but Britain is a more tolerant place than America

# ¿ May 15, 2017 02:57

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hakimashou posted:

Ie, the most successful british political movement in a generation.

Your whole country put it to a vote and you sided with UKIP.

It's a damning indictment.

E: The UK has a few legitimate points where it sits above the US. Healthcare, at least for the time being, is one. Women's issues to an extent; before long you'll be electing your second woman as prime minister. Race and bigotry however are not some of those points anymore. Maybe before Obama and the brexit, but no longer.

A country choosing to leave a political union because it wants to flood that country with hundreds of thousands of migrants basically destroying the working and lower middle class and usurp its sovereignty having control over its laws and courts is worse than a country that has real issues with its police force blowing away minorities in the middle of the street because of racial stereotyping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAJRcRZPfwQ

remember that time Trump called Mexicans rapists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6QEqoYgQxw

# ¿ May 15, 2017 04:30

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Pissflaps posted:

The election was lost before May called it.

The only reason we are having the election is because Brexit will tank the Tories once May goes full mentally disabled person and leaves the EEC plunging the country into recession

# ¿ May 15, 2017 12:43

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/11/tim-farron-lib-dems-pledge-uk-take-50000-more-syrian-refugees

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Britain should take 50,000 more Syrian refugees from camps in the region, the Liberal Democrats will say in their manifesto, as well as re-opening the scheme to resettle lone child refugees in Europe.

Tim Farron, the Lib Dem leader, said Labour should match his pledge in their own manifesto and said the offer was a message about his party�s values.

�Labour should match this, this is a challenge to other parties and particularly to the government,� he said. �I think we need a strong opposition and you only get that with a clear alternative, this is our clear alternative.�

The Lib Dems estimate the cost of resettling an additional 50,000 refugees would require a hefty �4.3bn investment. Farron said his party believed it was worth the investment. �I don�t want us to be the kind of country who turns our back on those in desperate need, this is about Britain doing it�s fair share,� he said. �It�s not about taking all of the burden.�

While Farron has often urged more help for refugees after visits to refugee camps in Lesbos, Calais and Macedonia, the pledge is also a clear sign that his party is refocusing its election efforts on Labour voters, particularly metropolitan progressives.

�My job is to try to present a different set of value, we are a political party making this a major part of our campaign,� he said. �We believe the British people are better than the Conservative party are making us out to be.�

�It�s also a challenge to the British people to make it clear to their government that this is the kind of Britain they want, a decent country, which doesn�t forget those in need, while the Conservative government choose a path that makes Britain meaner, narrower and less thoughtful about our neighbours.�

The UK�s current programme, the Syrian vulnerable persons resettlement scheme, was launched in early 2014 in order to provide a route for selected Syrian refugees to come to the UK, prioritising the elderly, the disabled and victims of sexual violence and torture.

The scheme�s aim was to take 20,000 refugees from the Syrian region over five years. While more than 5,400 Syrians had been resettled by the end of last year, campaigners have said more urgent resettlement is needed.

The Lib Dems have also said they will re-open the so-called Dubs amendment scheme � named after the Labour peer Lord Alf Dubs who put down the amendment to the immigration bill � to bring lone child refugees to Britain who are in camps in Europe.

Since entering No 10 last year, Theresa May has resisted calls from campaigners to widen schemes to take more Syrian refugees, ending the transfer of children under the Dubs amendment earlier this year with the government claiming that local authorities had reached the limit of their resources. �We have always taken the view that we can help more Syrian refugees by putting aid into the region,� May has said.

The government argues that the UK has pledged more than �2.3bn to support those affected by the conflict, the largest ever response to a single humanitarian crisis in British history.

Farron said he did not believe the UK�s funding for Syrian refugee camps was a substitute for resettling refugees to allow them to rebuild their lives.

�I had met Syrian refugees in Cologne, welcomed into a civilised country which had the desire to do the right thing,� he said.

�They were setting up home, very quickly learning German, aeronautical engineers who will become loyal, tax-paying German citizens. As safe, sanitary and caring as a camp can be made to be, it�s still a flaming camp and it�s no way to raise your kids.�

# ¿ May 15, 2017 15:18

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Gonzo McFee posted:

The reason The Brown Bigot thing was such a scandal is because Brown was still wearing his microphone when he accurately called that bigot a bigot.

I can only imagine the horror that May was saying the second she got back to her battle bus in earshot of journalists that would never report what she said.

How dare Gordon Brown bully a little old woman

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# ¿ May 15, 2017 19:55

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Based mods

Thanks for getting those dirty alternative opinions away from me!

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kek

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Regarde Aduck posted:

So the guardian is slowly going overtly pro Tory? Cool, cool cool cool.

something rotten in the state of the guardian

http://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2015-03-03/hsbc-and-the-sham-of-guardians-scott-trust/

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HSBC and the sham of Guardian�s Scott Trust
When I and others accuse the British media of systematic and consistent bias in favour of corporate power, and point out that the media is structurally part of that system of corporate power, we typically receive emails from readers arguing that not all parts of the media are subject to such pressures. Britain, we are told, is privileged to have two �liberal� media outlets, the BBC and Guardian, that are seen either as neutral or as a leftwing counterbalance to the rightwing agenda of the rest of the media.

Occasionally, it is also claimed that Britain�s media regulator, Ofcom, is there to prevent bias, ensuring that minimum standards of objectivity are maintained in news coverage.

Here are three illuminating articles and a short video that should help to dispel any such illusions about a healthy and diverse British media. Rather, the media in the UK is embedded in the corporate world, and therefore incapable of fulfilling its self-declared role as watchdog against abuses by the powerful.

The first article, by Glenn Greenwald, shows how Ofcom is just another tool of the British state to intimidate and exclude any voices, such as broadcasters RT and Iran�s PressTV, that might provide a narrative that challenges the official London-Washington consensus on world events. Ofcom has just announced yet another investigation of RT for �bias�. RT is not even allowed to discuss the case while it is being investigated. Greenwald points out:

All of this underscores the propagandistic purpose of touting �media objectivity� versus �bias.� The former simply does not exist. Revealingly, it is British journalists themselves who are most vocal in demanding that Her Majesty�s Government bar RT from broadcasting on �bias� grounds: fathom how authoritarian a society must be if it gets its journalists to play the leading role in demanding that the state ban (or imprison) journalists it dislikes. So notably, the most vocal among the anti-RT crowd on the ground that it spreads lies and propaganda � such as Nick Cohen [of the Observer] and Oliver Kamm [of the London Times] � were also the most aggressive peddlers of the pro-U.K.-government conspiracy theories and lies that led to the Iraq War. �

This is about nothing more than ensuring that Western citizens are not exposed to the side of The Enemy. � Western countries love to depict citizens of their long list of adversaries as being propagandized � whether it be China, Iran, Russia, North Korea, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Syria, Venezuela, Ecuador, etc. etc. � even as they themselves work in all sorts of ways to ban their own citizens from exposure to those adversaries� views.
The second, by Seumas Milne, reviews a new book offering a history of the BBC through the difficult years when Margaret Thatcher waged a relentless assault against its supposed left-wing politics. Milne notes that in the years before Thatcher�s interference the BBC�s programming was in some ways more liberal than it is today, but even so:

The corporation was always an establishment institution, deeply embedded in the security state and subject to direct government control in an emergency. The sexism at the BBC, as Seaton recounts, was appalling, as in many other workplaces, and ethnic diversity non-existent. Around 40% of the staff were vetted by MI5: those who failed the �political reliability� test, often for the mildest of radical connections, were blacklisted � their personnel files marked with the symbol of a Christmas tree. To give a flavour of the relationship, one broadcaster still well-known today had to be brought home from a foreign posting in the 1980s after BBC management became alarmed that his relationship with MI6 was becoming too overt.
Thatcher lost no time in sacking the BBC�s director-general, Milne�s father, and bringing into the BBC the new corporate boardroom culture she was cultivating throughout the economy. With it, the BBC became even more politically obedient than it already was:

Once the government had demonstrated it could not only manipulate the licence fee to ensure BBC compliance, but summarily dispatch its leadership at barely one remove, what BBC director general or chair would do anything but bend the knee or jump ship? That is what happened in 2004, after a report by a tame judge into the death of the weapons expert David Kelly and BBC reporting of government deceit over the Iraq war led not to the fall of ministers or officials � but the resignation of the chairman and director general of the BBC. �

Two decades on, in a symbolic mark of its creeping corporate capture, the latest BBC trust chair, Rona Fairhead, has become embroiled in the tax dodging scandal that has engulfed HSBC, of which she is also a non-executive director.
Finally, Nafeez Ahmed, an investigative reporter fired by the Guardian for his work exposing the connection between Israel�s attacks on Gaza and its interests in Gaza�s natural resources, exposes the sham of the Guardian�s Scott Trust.

In the first 12 mins of the video below, he talks to RT�s Going Underground about the Trust and the reasons for his sacking � maybe this interview will offer Ofcom yet more grounds for banning RT from Britain�s airwaves.

Even more important is his latest lengthy, wide-ranging and crowd-funded investigation into how the HSBC bank and the City are deeply implicated in money-laundering the proceeds of globalised crime, and how that same financial sector has captured not only Britain�s political elites but also the entire British media. Yes, the entire media, including the Guardian, which has been lauded for its recent revelations about the corrupt practices of HSBC�s Swiss arm.

Ahmed points out, however, that the Guardian has very much pulled its punches on fraudulent practices by HSBC in the UK. A whistleblower, Nicholas Wilson, has spent years trying to publicise the overcharging of British shoppers, some 600,000 of them, of quite astounding sums totalling �1 billion in debt collection charges through their credit cards. HSBC has been at the heart of this mass fraud.

According to Ahmed, almost every major British investigative team, including the Guardian, has got close to publication and then spiked the story for unexplained reasons. The regulatory authorities admit that HSBC has lied about its practices and that there are grounds for suspecting that fraud on an enormous scale has occurred but they have refused to investigate further, saying such action would be �disproportionate�. The reason, he argues, is that:

London, even more than Wall Street, is the world�s finance capital, harbouring most of the global economy�s international transactions, and therefore holding 400% more money than Britain�s entire GDP. A significant quantity of this money � �many hundreds of billions of pounds� worth � is from the criminal economy and laundered through UK banks and their subsidiaries. As [financial sector campaigner Joel] Benjamin said: �What the British government cannot tell the public is that the current growth model for the UK economy revolves around the endorsement and protection of financial sector fraud.�

The exposure of HSBC�s fraud in Britain could fundamentally jeopardise both the bank�s domestic and US operations.
In other words, politically and economically, HSBC is too big to fail. And for that reason it is well-protected by the corporate media. The HSBC has done more than any other bank to ensure its friends are embedded in the very senior echelons of the political and media class. Note, as Milne observes above, that the BBC Trust is headed by Rona Fairhead. Here�s Fairhead�s CV, according to Ahmed:

Fairhead is currently chair of HSBC�s North America Holdings, and was chair of the audit and risk committee when HSBC was fined by US authorities for money-laundering. Some of the fraud exposed in the Swiss leaks occurred during her watch on the committee. Before her government nomination to the BBC, Fairhead was appointed a British Business Ambassador by Prime Minister David Cameron. Prior to that, she had been a non-executive board director for the UK Cabinet Office under the coalition government.
The Guardian is no less in bed with HSBC, as Ahmed details. Recently, Peter Oborne, formerly of Britain�s Daily Telegraph, revealed that his newspaper spiked HSBC stories to avoid losing ad revenue. The Guardian is even more dependent on income from HSBC than the Telegraph.

During the Treasury Select Committee meeting on 15th February, it emerged that the newspaper that styles itself as the world�s �leading liberal voice� happens to be the biggest recipient of HSBC advertising revenue: bigger even than the Telegraph. � User growth permitted a dramatic increase in advertising revenues: �Revenues from US operations more than doubled on the previous 12-month period, reflecting advertising demand and sponsorship deals with partners such as HSBC, Netflix and Airbnb.�
According to the Guardian�s supporters, the benevolent Scott Trust acts as a buffer against commercial pressures, guaranteeing the Guardian�s editorial independence and its liberal-left credentials. Ahmed throws cold water on that theory:

The Guardian is not owned by a trust at all. In 2008, �the trust was replaced with a limited company� that was accordingly re-named �The Scott Trust Limited.� Though not a trust at all, but simply a profit-making company, it is still referred to frequently as �The Scott Trust,� promulgating the widely-held but mistaken belief in the Guardian�s inherently benign ownership structure. � The problem, of course, is that the Guardian functions under the same sort of corporate structure as any other major media company.
Ahmed details that the Scott Trust board members have deep ties to HSBC. Consider, for example, board member Anthony Salz�s CV, care of Ahmed:

a senior investment banker and executive vice chairman of Rothschild, and a director at NM Rothschild and Sons. He was a key legal adviser to Guinness during the notorious share-rigging scandal, helped Rupert Murdoch form BSkyB, and was vice chair of the BBC�s Board of Governors before it was replaced by the BBC Trust. He was also lead non-executive director of the board at the Department for Education under arch-neoconservative Michael Gove. Until 2006, Salz led a highly successful 30 year career as a corporate lawyer at Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer, where he was head and senior managing partner since 1996.

One of Freshfield�s most prominent long-term clients is HSBC. In 2012, Salz�s former firm was appointed to advise HSBC on its record $1.9 billion fine from US authorities for money-laundering, regarding its UK law implications. Although that occurred well after Salz�s time, HSBC�s relationship with Freshfields had been consolidated under Salz�s tenure shortly before he left, establishing an advisory monopoly on much of HSBC�s corporate work in Asia, and displacing the rival firm Norton Rose as HSBC�s advisor of choice.
I strongly recommend you take the time out to read Ahmed�s report in full.

Whistleblower Nicholas Wilson is now trying to crowd-fund a legal action against HSBC that might finally bring its practices to light. It�s a sad indictment of our political rulers, legal authorities and �free press� that our only, slim hope of holding those in power to account is through crowd-funded journalism and crowd-funded court cases.

It is typical evasion from Rusbridger. First, he admits that the Scott Trust Ltd is not a charity, but nonetheless insists it acts �like a trust�. One wonders then why the Guardian didn�t leave it as a trust. Why change it into a limited company, if it�s only role is to be a trust?

Second, what makes the Scott Trust Ltd different from other corporate media organisations � as we keep being told by its staff, including columnists like George Monbiot and Owen Jones � if, as Rusbridger claims, its board members� strong ties to corporations like HSBC are irrelevant to understanding its influence on the Guardian? Why are the Trust board members, deeply embedded in the corporate culture, any different from other corporate media chief executives? It seems Rusbridger is in deep denial.

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Looke posted:

Meanwhile in Oxford...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/16/oxford-university-lavinia-woodward-stabbed-boyfriend-may-avoid-jail

Is being a female the easy mode of life?

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# ¿ May 17, 2017 00:12

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Party Boat posted:

For those who are interested, the Secret Barrister has done an informative post on the Oxford medical student and similarities with the Bashir assault case earlier this year: https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017...oing-to-prison/

And I hope I don't have to tell any thread regulars this, but you have until 11:59 on Monday to register to vote. In most cases it takes less than five minutes to do online: https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

If you don't you're the absolute worst in this thread. Yeah even worse than <poster you dislike>

Is being a middle class white woman attending Oxford the easy mode of life?

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# ¿ May 17, 2017 23:30

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Angepain posted:

what do you think the three most important attributes in that sentence are

middle class
Oxford
woman

# ¿ May 17, 2017 23:36

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jabby posted:

The houses won't be sold while the owner or their partner are still living, and any kids will still inherit an estate worth at least 100k to help them get a new place for themselves. Admittedly a lot of people with money will just find a way around it, but there's nothing bad about preventing people inheriting houses.

You will end up with people gaming the system by signing over their houses before they die so it doesn't get gobbled up by the goverment

# ¿ May 18, 2017 00:43

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Namtab posted:

Far age has been saying things lately

Don't post here

If a middle class white man stabbed a woman he would be at least looking at one to two years in Jail

Women get let off easy in the court system all the time

# ¿ May 18, 2017 10:44

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Party Boat posted:

Any sentence of under two years can be suspended, as happened here, and in the Bashir case which was a man assaulting his wife. You're an idiot. gently caress off.

quote:

Manchester Crown Court was told the pair met in their native Pakistan and married in 2013. But Bashir was said to be a �controlling and dominating� husband who told his wife what she could spend her money on and what she should wear, who she could see.

The couple had been on a day out to Rochdale Lake in April 2014 when an argument broke out about Bashir travelling to the Netherlands and he grabbed Ms Karim by her neck and was squeezing, until a member of the public threatened to go to the police.

Prosecutor Roger Brown said: �The parties went back home where the argument continued. He grabbed her neck again, so much that she said it was hurting a lot and at one point he picked up a knife and said that he would kill himself and she begged him not to.

�He took her into the bathroom where he grabbed a bottle of bleach and he made her drink the bleach so she would kill herself. She spat that out as she was unable to swallow it. Then he gave her tablets from the house and told her to take them. She did but again she was unable to swallow them.

�He said to her �I want you to kill yourself.� She left the bathroom and went into the living room where the defendant called her family to tell them they had an argument and that she was not obeying him. Her family urged her to obey him and told him that she would obey.

��She did take photos of her injuries to her neck and to her upper arm. When making her statement she said that he grabbed her neck very hard and she thought she was going to die. She was pulling at him trying to get him to stop but he was stronger and she couldn�t stop him. After that incident he left the house and she didn�t see him for some two days.��

Both Bashir and Woodward should be in jail

# ¿ May 18, 2017 10:56

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Party Boat posted:

And yet he isn't. Which completely undermines your claims of misandry in the justice system.

When did I say Misandry?

However its clear for many years the court system goes easier on women giving them reduced sentences or suspended sentences for crimes that would land a man in jail

# ¿ May 18, 2017 11:07

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Guavanaut posted:

Means testing is dumb as balls. Same with the free school meals. Why not have free school meals for all kids and fund it through taxation of the bands that would normally pay for school meals, which would get rid of all the bureaucracy around testing who gets free school meals?

Meddling with free school lunches is a really bad idea when for some kids its going to be the only square meal they have all day.

# ¿ May 18, 2017 11:11

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peanut- posted:

I didn't realise free lunches for infants was a thing. When did it come in? I definitely remember paying for my school lunch at that age in the 90s.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/free-school-lunch-for-every-child-in-infant-school

# ¿ May 18, 2017 11:27

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Oberleutnant posted:

There seems to be some implicit understanding among school kids that you can give a poor kid a hard time for having poo poo trainers, but nobody ever says a word about free school lunches. That was my experience, anyway.

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