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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Pissflaps posted:

This country is led by morons.

Agreed, that's why McDonnell should be in charge instead

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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knox_harrington posted:

Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter.

Boo loving hoo someone said something about you that you don't like nobody cares

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Zephro posted:

The secret of Boston is that there are no actually-Irish people there

Yeah, they're all from Lincolnshire

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Remember when we thought Watson was good when he was pissing off Murdoch?

People mostly thought he was good because he played video games, the Murdoch stuff came later

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Jose posted:

i'm in the lib dem to other parties bit

You voted for UKIP 2 years ago?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The Lib Dems, Labour and the SNP are all mutually toxic to various degree (the Lib Dems are big in Tory areas because they're not just a front for Labour, for example). Announcing anything like that before the election wouldn't be very helpful imo.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Jose posted:

the guy is completely mental and has videos of him being so on youtube. i linked one earlier

Read the article - the twitter account isn't connected with the youtube guy, and was made by a PR guy with the express aim of making this kind of viral story.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Yorkshire Tea posted:

They don't impact the poorest because they only hit you once you earn above £21k which isn't living like a king or anything, but is still appreciable income.

People on the lowest incomes will be, by and large, non-graduates. The median graduate salary is well above the median national salary.

Yorkshire Tea posted:

So effectively the abolition of tuition fees allow the middle classes to do better at the cost of income to the state that could be distributed to the poorest and they're not proven to have a significant impact on university application. Even if they were, the very cash channeled from the rich fucker who earns £100k at Goldman could be channeled to provide much poorer people better access to university education.

The cash would be better channelled through rising income tax. As things stand, the system does very well for the very wealthy because it's paid off the fastest (so the total repayable is the smallest it can be). The people who do worst are the people who are in the middle, those who earn enough to be paying an appreciable amount back but not enough to pay it off (or only just pay it off) before the debt expires.

When the increased university fees were passing through parliament, HEPI put out a paper suggesting that it was a worse system for the students, for the universities and for the government. It's got absolutely no advantages over the old system.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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kapparomeo posted:

Education should be free, certainly. Subsidising the drinking budgets of feckless youth in manchild daycare for three years before they drop out of a Media Studies course should not.

Maybe if more people understood how the media worked we wouldn't have so many people like yourself, who just parrot whatever nonsense they're told

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Blasmeister posted:

The real lovely effect of tuition fees is how it impacts universities themselves negatively. The money from tuition gets spent on building facilities to make the place look better on campus tour days rather than improving the quality of education or the number of students per lecturer, and lecturers are discouraged from failing anyone because it would negatively impact the bottom line.

Durham University has grown massively over the past twenty years, and is now so large the town really can't cope (20k students in a town with a population of 50k).

The new VC wants the university to double in size over the next few years, because it brings in the cash and inflates his ego.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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OwlFancier posted:

I suppose you could just replace the entirety of Durham with the university and turn the cathedral into the main building or something.

The Cathedral has nothing to do, administratively speaking, with the university. The university's about 800 years younger, for a start

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Breath Ray posted:

What's the evidence it can't cope

Talk to Simon Henig or any other local politician; look at the house prices compared to the rest of the region (the rent is literally twice as much as three miles down the road!); look at the churning of shops in the local area, as students have very different desires to the local population and yet are only here half of the year.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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ThomasPaine posted:

fair play david baxter fair play. hell of a thing when even people who outright say they are tories are telling everyone to just simmer down for a single solitary second and actually think things through.

lol laffer curve

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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haakman posted:

In the immortal words of GDT:

1) More money for us;
2) gently caress you

There's your tory policy.

GDT?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Party Boat posted:

Guillermo del Toro?

I'm pretty sure that two line policy document comes from a Tim Krieder cartoon about Republicans.

Yeah, it's called The Choice I think

[edit]

Yep

http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly021120.htm

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Ewan posted:

https://twitter.com/ReesMoggBlog/status/862412667738345473

Cue pages of responses from over 40s telling him it was great

He's literally 22

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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It's very very incompetent green screening

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Alchenar posted:

Your plan is to replace a functioning market with a state monopoly.

Yeah this is totally what a functioning market looks like

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Alchenar posted:

There's a range of competing products at decent prices that all work.

That market is working just fine here. The problem is the state deciding not to pay what it costs for the solution it wants.

The state has put billions into NHS IT in the last 15 years.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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ukle posted:

Ohh FFS. Just found out my area is one where the Lib Dems and Greens have colluded, and despite the Lib Dem's being second in every election bar 2015 they aren't going to stand in the 2017 election. It makes no sense and completely blows my intention to tactically vote Lib Dem.

Oh no you have to vote for a better party

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Alchenar posted:

No because we know there literally was a fix and it would have cost £5.5m.

A hell of a lot cheaper than setting up your own IT company.

A fix for this individual issue. This is so obviously a nonsense comparison you can't be making it honestly

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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What, frankfurters? Go buy em in the supermarket

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Pochoclo posted:

Definitely none at the M&S

M&S is for retired old people and Daily Mail readers

Except the iced spiced buns, they're nice

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Miftan posted:

Don't really know what you were expecting at M&S. Posh dogs sounds about right for them. Do your shopping at the Co-op

Coop own brand posh salt and vinegar crisps phwoah what an experience

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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hakimashou posted:

It may not be too late!

This article is moronic and so are you

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

He's not even in parliament. Does he even want to get back into politics?

He works for the Thunderbirds now

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Who's the rock biter in this analogy

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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hakimashou posted:

To be fair isn't this thread sort of a celebration of not having any idea how various things work out in the real world?

Like look two posts above yours at the guy who thinks the Mirror is wrong and omg the mirror is so dumb.

Your posts are a celebration of not having any idea

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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It's not about making a point, it's about trying to get as many Labour MPs elected, even if they're complete pillocks.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Lightning Lord posted:

But good to know you're into music by a dude who makes racist RPGs that use papyrus font I guess :discourse:

He self described as a nazi, I think we can go beyond font usage

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Hoops posted:

Metal, anime, student politics, monty python and blackadder, Jeremy Corbyn, computer games.

But enough about your OKCupid profile,

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Thornberry is a very good speaker, she's been mooted before because of that

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Skinty McEdger posted:

Someone has uploaded to youtube the entire BBC election night coverage of the 83, 92 and 97 elections. I'm trying to work out if I'm a big enough nerd to sit through 9 hours a time of coverage through the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJX7FPhMJPw

watch this instead

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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OwlFancier posted:

That's also the reason that Labour shouldn't try to appeal to that demographic via racism, even if it costs them an election, it's going to bite whoever does it in the arse at some point because it can't be sustained, and it shouldn't be Labour that gets bitten.

Unless we go full fash which doesn't seem that impossible right naw

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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EmptyVessel posted:

Gotta do something with those longer Summer nights.

You capitalised Summer, are you about to break into a Grease medley

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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hakimashou posted:

Like did the communist party win seats under his leadership

The CPB, electorally, supports Labour so this isn't the cutting barb you think it is

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Miftan posted:

Really enjoying Guavanaut's literature corner lately.

I see games have gone straight through art and into literature

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The yougov numbers are not counting regional swings, Matt Singh.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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"How many percentage points of the vote are UKIP losing" would be a better name for that list of figures

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Yeah Theresa May is 100% the person to back if you want free movement in Europe

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