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knox_harrington posted:"It is a basic tenet of Conservatism that poor people only work harder if they are given less money, but rich people only work harder if they are given more money."
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There is only labour and capital after all.
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May 3, 2017 17:11
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And if a aeroplanes engines fall off you'll fall 30,000 feet and explode on landing. Don't be luddites.
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May 4, 2017 19:47
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Regarde Aduck posted:Jeremy isn't going to win because the public is ideologically right wing. You love polls, you saw the poll that had 24% openly identifying as 'ethnic nationalists'. A further 25%, classed as the common sense voter, were found to have almost identical issues.
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May 4, 2017 20:00
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UKIPpers aren't libertarians though, they're like protectionist populist social conservative. Maybe Farage was a libertarian but their voters aren't. UKIP voters love the armed forces, the NHS, and the Queen, none of which are compatible with pure libertarianism. Everything (everything) UKIP do is to appeal to people that are scared "They" are going to take something away from them, it's not really about left or right economics.
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May 4, 2017 23:59
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Clive Lewis is polished and has name recognition, he'd breeze through a leadership vote. I don't know that much about him or his stances tbh, if the UKMT thinks he's not too bad then he's probably a shoe-in for next leader.
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May 5, 2017 19:28
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Describes himself as "a proud socialist" Used to be in the army Nominated Corbyn for leadership but isn't seen as one of "his guys" Very Pro-Remain Used to be a journalist so can work the lefty and centrist papers Black but not too black Seems like he's on to a winner. How tall is he? Edit: quote:In April 2015, Lewis commented in an interview for the New Statesman (in jest), in response to a question on whether he was taking his upcoming victory for granted, he would only lose if he was "caught with [his] pants down behind a goat with Ed Miliband at the other end". He subsequently apologised for the remark, saying he was "sincerely sorry" if anyone had been offended by the comment. Hoops fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 19:35
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JFairfax posted:I don't want an ex soldier running the country
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May 5, 2017 19:51
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Looks weak. Head's too small.
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May 5, 2017 20:37
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Regarde Aduck posted:Yeah, most "Corbynistas" or whatever bollocks you want to parrot are just people unwilling to put "winning" before ideology. Because they have critical thinking skills and realise that winning on the wrong platform isn't actually winning. It's like those exams with multiple sections, where if you fail one section you fail the whole thing. That's Corbyns leadership. Insufficiently good enough at elements you need to be sufficiently good enough at or you'll fail. And his supporters think his good qualities can make up for his bad, whereas the majority of people saw at least a year ago that they can't. Edit: or, I should say, they weren't. He's getting better and improving his strategy a lot recently and may continue to do so. But it pretty much is down to him that people don't want to vote labour right now and it was a grave and consequential mistake to make him leader Hoops fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 14:09
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Why is it everyone says Burnham is so fairweather and flip-floppy? Genuinely asking, I don't know everything he's done or said. I've seen good things from him, he seems like a good MP to me. Edit: not an MP anymore but you know what I mean Hoops fucked around with this message at 16:54 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 16:50
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Another Person posted:Because people looked at him and saw his fairly standard Labour pledge list and decided he was a centrist. He didn't represent the strong break with the status quo of Labour that people wanted in 2015, and that reputation never left him because it has persisted on being an issue in Labour to this day. I have seen the Sun photo mentioned before (if it's that picture of him thumbs up in a taxi with a Sun logo on the side, the picture isn't loading for me). But there's no real doubt in my mind that he did work hard for the Hillsborough campaign - In my opinion it's an unfortunate photo but doesn't mean anything, the guy just got in a black cab and may not have noticed what was on the side. To take that photo as evidence he secretly is costing up to Murdoch or something is cheap. Edit: I just googled the photo and it's not a black cab with a decal on the side, it's a massive unmistakeable red cab that you couldn't miss. So that's slightly different to pose for a snap with. Alright, one point against him for sure Hoops fucked around with this message at 17:08 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 17:01
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Oberleutnant posted:It was part of a spread that the Sun was doing called "the Sun CABinet", geddit?
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May 6, 2017 17:11
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Metal is for massive nerds anyway, so is anime
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May 14, 2017 13:54
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Metal, anime, student politics, monty python and blackadder, Jeremy Corbyn, computer games.
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May 14, 2017 14:00
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Pissflaps posted:Get robot wars and doctor who on there.
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May 14, 2017 14:23
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They stitched her right up with that photo, it hit exactly like they wanted it to. But that's what the press will do really, I'm not sure what's being argued here
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May 14, 2017 16:28
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TheRat posted:Louise Mensch is fighting her solicitor on twitter. Although it looks like the lawyer is being crazy unprofessional with his client here. Hoops fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 15, 2017 |
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May 15, 2017 00:00
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Evil_Urna posted:Arrived at what? Antisemitism? It seems like you're American? Just make your poorly informed "What the gently caress, England?" post, incorrectly equate something to being the equivalent of the Democrats/Republicans/Red Sox and move on, just like the last six or seven guys.
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May 15, 2017 00:15
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Namtab stop Everyone stop
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May 16, 2017 00:43
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Labour manifesto is really good and so far has been pitched just about perfectly as well.
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May 16, 2017 17:57
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quote:Thing is, nobody has done anything to reduce the risk of another financial crisis, and the housing bubble can't last forever. I think that's the most depressing part of this election - not just that the Tories are unlikely to be ousted, but even if by some miracle Corbyn wins there's a good chance another financial crisis will come along that the Tories can then blame on Labour for another decade or two. And if that crisis hits during a Tory government instead, they'll just use it as an excuse to cut back even more cruelly than they already have.
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May 16, 2017 18:04
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Just saw that Corbyn Facebook Live ambush thing. There is no way Corbyn's team of six months ago would have pulled a stunt like that and come out the winner, they would have misspelled the hashtag or some stupid poo poo. Thank gently caress for spin doctors.
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May 16, 2017 22:59
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Pissflaps posted:Really? Every time I hear him - which is a lot at the moment - it's still the same weird, unconvincing dalek delivery. Edit: I'm coining a term right here right now. You have to be an iPhone politician to win an election Hoops fucked around with this message at 22:08 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 22:02
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The election has produced a clear and distinctive manifesto at least. He would have been cunting it up with train toilets for five years otherwise. Of course they'll lose but at least it's now an actual battleground.
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May 17, 2017 22:08
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Hello - news alert for the first summaries of the Tory manifesto. Levy on firms hiring foreign workers that goes to pay for skills training for UK nationals. drat that will play pretty well. There would have been trade unionists in the 80s who would have been all about that.
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May 17, 2017 22:18
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Metal, anime, student politics, monty python and blackadder, Jeremy Corbyn, computer games, Robot wars, Doctor Who, Star Wars expanded universe
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May 17, 2017 22:50
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Mental that professional politicians can decide on "don't feed kids" as one of their manifesto policies. No idea of the cost and savings breakdowns, but it's milksnatching for fucks sake, just pick something else.
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May 18, 2017 15:44
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Oberleutnant posted:I inagine that the thought process behind a lot of these bewildering tory manifesto promises is not "this is a vote winner people will like" but rather "this is hateful poo poo people will detest, but we're tory cunts and we desperately want to do it, and we can probably sneak them in because nobody will vote for Corbyn".
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May 19, 2017 18:40
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Are people actually complaining about inheritance stuff in the UKMT? In what way?
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May 19, 2017 20:53
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forkboy84 posted:I agree it will damage him in the polls, because fuckwits like you either don't understand what you are talking about or are perfectly happily spouting bollocks.
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May 21, 2017 15:06
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Looking back through the thread, can we get a round of applause for JFairfax, who spent his night last night making fun of kids who were the victim of a suicide bombing.
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May 23, 2017 20:00
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Hands up any oval office in the UKMT who's bought more than £5 worth of newspapers in the last year and yet there is still the idea that journalists have to somehow be above working to what sells. It's not their fault. Edit: for the record I literally cannot remember the last time I gave money for news Edit: also pay your TV license
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May 23, 2017 20:30
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namesake posted:The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.
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May 23, 2017 20:38
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Spoons is spoons, but Greggs is so criminally underrated. Not like the steak bakes and that, everyone knows what's up there, but if you want a tuna mayo baguette it's literally half the price of any of Pret or Eat etc. Edit: also I was at a family party the other weekend and someone brought in boxes of the caramel custard donuts. Holds up against any Krispy Kreme and it's literally 90 pence. Hoops fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 23, 2017 |
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May 23, 2017 22:05
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Closing to 8 points from 17 (19 at the worst poll?) is really a fantastic effort. Speaking completely coldly, the Manchester attack has interrupted the "normal" news cycle but it's been pretty great for Corbyn the last 2 or 3 weeks.
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May 25, 2017 21:59
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Lab/Dem coalition with prime minister Chukka Umunna revoking Article 50. Absolutely fine with that.
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May 25, 2017 22:09
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Tesseraction posted:because you're a dumb and bad poster who severely over-estimates your support amongst the regulars here.  Holy poo poo you can't even see how this makes you look. My dude you absolutely have to get out more.
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May 27, 2017 23:55
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If we're doing predictions already, I'll say 36% for Labour and a Tory majority of about 80. I don't know if those two things are plausible together or not.
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36%, 65 seat majority. Get it on the board. Edit: no UKIP seats, Greens get 1, lib dems get 12
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