Dead Reckoning posted:

Out of the IRR, so go hogwild, Donnie, it's not my problem any more.

Duzzy Funlop posted:

In Flagstaff current events, the trial for the kid that shot four folks and killed one on campus in the Fall of 2015 is looking to be headed for a hung jury.

I sat through the opening & closing statements, the testimony, and the even the jury asking questions, and my conclusion is that both the prosecution and defense counsel are morons. I'm armchair-lawyering obviously, but there's a charge of premeditated murder, the prosecutor calls the shooter an "assassin in the night", and then - in his opening statement, no less - he submits that two of the victims lunged at the shooter, the shooter stopped firing after the first victim got hit, stowed his weapon and went in for first aid, and asked the first officer on the scene to help the victims.

The guy also got his opening statements interrupted by a bunch of sustained objections, so I have no idea if there's some calculated grandstanding there, or if the prosecutor is just dumb. Defense counsel is also a babbling fool, though.

After five days of deliberation, the jury hasn't even reached on ANY of the five aggravated assault charges, nor the premeditated murder charge.

http://www.12news.com/news/local/arizona/judge-gives-instructions-to-jury-in-nau-shooting-trial-deliberations-resume/429413315

facialimpediment posted:

Colgate University (New York State) went on active shooter lockdown yesterday.

https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/859502101394751488

Turns out, someone saw a black kid using a glue gun and reported it to the cops

McNally posted:

Please fill in the blank with something plausible, based on prior evidence of Bannon's goals.

"Build the border wall and eventually make Mexico a decorative lace doily" perhaps?

ded posted:

If you have had that happen to you, yes it was illegal. If you work OT you get OT pay, period. It doesn't matter what they say if you work it they owe you. Employers will try to pull all kinds of things that are not actually legal and try to say they are.

This is one of the reasons unions happened.

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

how do you regulate that

bird food bathtub posted:

Now I'm curious what percent of stuff like design, engineering, man power and overall resources goes into not letting your own military members kill themselves through incompetence instead of the enemy. For training exercises it sure felt North of 50%.

Buca di Bepis posted:

My GF has diabetes and isn't rich, the Republican healthcare bill is basically telling her "gently caress you, please die horribly".

Her whole family, which are all impoverished and have all suffered from terrible health issues, voted for Trump

CHICKEN SHOES posted:

gently caress she suuuuuucks

bird food bathtub posted:

Sure would be neat to get out of the darkest timeline for a bit, because while it sounds fiddly and lawyery and stupid, this is really dangerous territory for Trump. This is the stuff that ended up loving over Nixon. Investigating Whitewater was the start, but stonewalling the opposition, refusing to hand stuff over and firing special prosecutors is what got a whole bunch of people to turn on him.

So let's hope Trump is as incompetent and megalomaniacal as he appears to be and drags this out for years, crippling his own administration and miring the entire party in controversy for years.

Missionary Positron posted:

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/861197871206592514


Ahahahah what a bunch of pissbabies

Genocide Tendency posted:

While demonstrating an astounding level of ignorance and managing to be loving wrong, he brings up an issue that at some point someone needs to explain.



How did he still have his clearance?


The President doesn't control it. But if there were so many issues surrounding Flynn, why didn't someone involved in security clearances at least look into it. If they did, HOW THE gently caress DID THEY THINK HE SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT? Thats what has really bugged me. Someone somewhere hosed up and let this rear end in a top hat keep a clearance he shouldn't have had.

Mr. Nice! posted:

His clearance wasn't revoked because he wasn't fired for being in bed with Russians. After he separated from the military, his clearance went inactive just like anyone else's. It probably wasn't worth the hassle to revoke an inactive clearance and it was on the Trump clock that his clearance would have been reactivated.

Two Finger posted:

Pence is gonna be terrible. Like really goddamned terrible, because he's your standard issue god-fearing R.

Trump is disruptive and destructive enough that he has basically single-handedly mired his own Presidency in so much poo poo they can't get anything done.

Office Pig posted:

Bannon.

Lest we forget, Trump just revealed to the entire world that he held a not-so-secret meeting with not only Kislyak, but the Ukrainian FM in order to broker the Russian annexation of Ukraine.

He fukin tweeted this poo poo.

nullscan posted:

Watch it come out that one of Trump's cronies owns shares in Pelican Cases or some stupid poo poo. What threat is this ban even trying to stop?

Laranzu posted:

Or they wanted to weaponize it and deploy before everyone was fully aware of how vulnerable their networks are, or some other group took advantage of it. It seems like a lovely rush job considering how little thought went into their anti-forensic code.

CommieGIR posted:

Even if he doesn't get impeached, his credibility is pretty much gone, whatever there was left of it.

Abongination posted:

Godholio posted:

Not really...tasers and pepper spray are the only possibilities, and they're always useful. She thought he was on PCP (she was right) and there are a bunch of cases where tasers (and pepper spray) are completely ineffective on such people. If I'm walking up on a guy who keeps putting his hands in his pockets, refusing to comply with any commands, and there's anything close to the size disparity as there was here, I'm probably going to reach for the option that's more likely to be effective in neutralizing the potential threat. Which is, ultimately, the goal.

Dead Reckoning posted:

According to witnesses, the perpetrator was walking down the street, screaming, at 3AM, with a knife. Apparently the arresting officers said he was speaking, but his words didn't make sense. It sounds more like someone having a psychotic break than a premeditated hate crime.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Again, that does not match with similar past events. Why would you commit a premeditated crime in front of multiple witnesses if you wanted to get away with it? Why would you lay your hopes on an insanity defense, hoping that a jury will "just" sentence you to indefinite incarceration in a mental institution without criminal culpability, when southern juries have already shown themselves willing to accept rather thin self defense claims?

Dead Reckoning posted:

Believing irrational things doesn't make people irrational actors. "That Pope Francis, total nut job, thinks he was picked by God to be in charge of the church, no idea what he'll do next." I get that y'all really want this to be about Internet racists killing an upstanding young man, but I'm pretty sure you're going to have to settle for Bowlcut McDipshit getting a needle in his arm some time later this decade.

Victor Vermis posted:

While you rally against the boogeyman of fascism, the corporate oligarchy lures you deeper into the beige-white interior of your own bourgeoisie pipe dreams.

Secure and immobile, there they will pour honey down your throat until you split at the seams and explode. A potbellied piņata full of superficial pride and chinese-made trinkets, the sound of your dignity whistling up and out of you like the howls of the first union men, chained to their own creations, flesh rending over pavement in the blazing red taillights of the American Dream.

Here now witness freedom's reproductive system. Milky white larvae burst forth and freefall from your honey-crusted remains to feast upon what pools below. The sum of your existence: cum, blood, and poo poo, congealing into the next generation of retarded wage-slaves. CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP.

Dead Reckoning posted:

America is a violent and brutal nation. Always has been. Most of our founding fathers literally owned other humans, and were not unfamiliar with killing. Aaron Burr was the sitting Vice President when he killed Alexander Hamilton. Andrew Jackson liked nothing more than to step outside, and had killed a man in a duel before he became our 7th President. He then went on to ignore the Supreme Court and instigate something that we still refer to, not inaccurately, as "The Trail of Tears." Preston Brooks' constituents re-elected him after he beat Senator Charles Sumner unconscious with a cane, leaving wounds that required three years of recuperation. (He was aided and abetted by Laurence Keitt, who brandished a pistol in the Senate chambers to keep onlookers from coming to Sumner's aid, and Henry Edmundson, who had previously been arrested by the Sergeant at Arms for assaulting another Senator.)

We might try to he better than our bloody legacy, but it is always there, below the surface.

Godholio posted:

The point is that we never stopped.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Perhaps, instead of thinking of our current detente as a natural evolution, you should consider it an anomaly, and that our political struggles being coupled with physical violence is actually the normal state of affairs. Like peace in Europe, it's worth working towards, but it isn't how things have been for most of history, or are guaranteed to be in the future.

Hand wringing about how our democracy can exist when our elected officials are committing violence is odd, since that's how we rolled for a few hundred years.

Dead Reckoning posted:

You might be in for a surprise. Press found his Facebook, which, uh, sure is something.


Yeah, this sounds like a guy with a coherent, conservative, Christian, pro-Trump political philosophy: