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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Supreme court denied cert for the NC voter ID law because it was too racist for our conservative court to even want to touch.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Representative Al Green of Texas has made a public statement that Trump should be impeached immediately for obstruction of justice wrt firing Comey. He fired him mid investigation, said the investigation was part of why he fired him, and then attempted to intimidate the former director via the tape tweet.

Still a pipedream, though.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Trump's lawyer is in Seattle fighting in court with the argument that nothing candidate Trump said matters and was not Trump being truthful. He never really wanted a Muslim ban, you see. He was just promising one to get racists to vote for him.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Two Finger posted:

I'm loving speechless.


Is this treason?

Title 18 U.S.C. § 2381 posted:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

It depends on whether you want to classify Russia as "enemies," but in a world that matters I would say yes. Since nothing matters, though...

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hobbesmaster posted:

Isn't "If the president does it it's not illegal" literally true for classified info and the military?

Well, its impeachable and something the senate could convict him on. But :lol: at republicans giving a poo poo.

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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:

Can a president even commit treason? If FDR decided to ally with the nazis for some reason doesn't he have that authority?

Just because it was within his authority doesn't mean it isn't treason. The problem is the only real recourse is impeachment.

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Oct 13, 2005

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White House is of course denying it. I don't think every major outlet runs with it, though, if it weren't 100% true and verified. The verifications have revealed that it's actually worse than reported but some of the information was withheld to minimize damage.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Here's a livestream of the McMasters conference whenever it happens

http://abcnews.go.com/Live

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Oct 13, 2005

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And McMaster came out said no sources or military operations were disclosed and left.

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The Orgasm Sanction posted:

I still have enough respect for McMaster to take him for his word and want to see what the intelligence committees have to say about it. So, here's hoping that the media isn't stepping in poo poo in a way that will make them all look like assholes.

McMaster is saying exactly what he's told to say because even if it is a lie it is still a lawful order. He has no real choice but say what he's told to say or resign his commission. As he has not chosen the latter, I cannot give him any leeway.

The media is not lying. Trump confirmed that himself this morning. McMaster has been extremely deliberate in what he's said and hasn't actually refuted what the media said. Every major news outlet has confirmed the story. The white house issued denial before trump copped to it because that's what they're told to do.

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http://www.jta.org/2017/01/12/news-opinion/report-u-s-intelligence-warns-israel-to-be-careful-transferring-information-to-trump-white-house

For anyone who doesn't remember when the Obama admin told Israel "be careful what you tell this guy his people are all compromised by Russians" and then he does it himself.

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While I really do not want us to kick start WW3 with Donnie up top, I do want this to be true as well.

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Comey is going public with his memos.

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Lindsay Graham has invited Comey to speak before Senate committee regarding memos. Multiple congressional republicans talking about impeachment and obstruction of justice.

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Two Finger posted:

SOURCE THAT poo poo

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/16/politics/congress-reactions-trump-michael-flynn-memo/

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Oct 13, 2005

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Yeah the impeachment rumbling has just been various reporters tweets. I'm trying to not clog up this thread with every tweet I come across.

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Genocide Tendency posted:

I thought the issue with IDR was him making GBS threads on trannies while dating one?

No he was a massive liar about everything. That was just part of it.

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Oct 13, 2005

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We have a thread for fantasy twitter posts, like ones where Mike Huckabee is funny.

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Oct 13, 2005

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CHICKEN SHOES posted:

oh my god I cant take another 3 and a half years of this

Good news!

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Oct 13, 2005

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I've seen a few people try to downplay this as "it's just a memo" or "it's hearsay."

While both are technically correct regarding Comey's memos, there's a lot more to it. Comey was a law enforcement officer. Keeping records of conversations is routine police work, and it is specifically carved out as a hearsay exception. In federal court, Comey's memos would be accepted as evidence and it would be on Trump to rebut them.

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Smiling Jack posted:

It's not hearsay in federal court. State laws may vary.

That's why I just said federal court, but the state distinction, in this case, doesn't matter because the FBI is going to be bringing anyone up on state charges.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Seibikitei posted:

Is.. is it too early for the "it's happening!" gif yet?

https://twitter.com/AP/status/864964714425708544

Possibly:

https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/864966049019695104

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Smiling Jack posted:

If Muller has subpoena power, shits about to get real

He does and he can bring charges as well. And is a circumcised male.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Capn Beeb posted:

Can Sessions get booted out too? I feel a lot of people are complicit with this poo poo.

Gimme President Mattis please

Potentially. He could get tied up for obstruction. But before you get president mattis you need Trump, Pence, Ryan, Hatch, Tillerson, and Mnuchin to all go down.

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Oct 13, 2005

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One of the congressional reporters is said that the word "treason" is seriously being used regarding Flynn today. Sorry, shim :(

Also check your PMs please.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Chaffetz just resigned effective June 30th. Gave no reason or transition plan.

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Oct 13, 2005

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This tweet legitimate enough for here instead of the other thread:

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/865285997176729601


Comey's firing is 100% part of the investigation, as well according to Graham. So basically anyone up and down the chain that could be hit on obstruction charges potentially faces them now.

Rosenstein also knew that Comey was going to be fired before he wrote his memo which is why he was so shocked to have the finger pointed solely at him at first. Everyone is hosed and it's amazing.


This is also probably why Flynn hasn't responded to the senate subpoena because all his poo poo has already been scooped up via the grand jury.


Comey was also investigating FBI leaks to Rudy as well, because gently caress it why not?

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 18, 2017

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Oct 13, 2005

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Syrian Lannister posted:

Angry orange is currently in a press conference with Colombian President Juan Santos

He did not deviate whatsoever from his prepared speech and just read from a piece of paper. I don't know if he'll take questions. Trump bitched a lot about MS-13 and said they've taken over entire cities.

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Oct 13, 2005

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He's taking questions right now. first one asking about special counsel.

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Its not really that crazy. The only way that this can pass via simple majority in the senate is via reconciliation. The senate cannot pass a bill via this means if it's got a negative CBO score. Ryan is just waiting to see the score monday and preemptively adjust the bill so they don't have to vote again after the senate does. It'll probably pass again in whatever horrid form the senate needs to pass it.

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Oct 13, 2005

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Press conference from senators that just go briefed by deputy AG.

https://www.c-span.org/networks/?channel=c-span-2

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Rosenstein's prepared remarks given to the House today. He made clear to note that his letter about Comey was not drafted in order to be, nor is it it sufficient for a for-cause dismissal.

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Mister Sinewave posted:

It's both funny and sad that Comey, a man who genuinely believes that civil liberties and due process are not burdens to be dealt with, but are rather both our greatest strengths and our reasons for being -- can unite people across both ends of the political spectrum in agreeing that he obviously should have no place as head of an organization like the FBI.

With the gift of hindsight, his actions during the election make a lot more sense. He had this massive russian thing he was working on at the same time he was investigating the leaks to Guliani. Rudy, and thus Trump and the Russians had the info about weiner's laptop. He had no choice but write his letter to congress about it and he obviously couldn't come out and say why.

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Chichevache posted:

That didn't stop John McCain from running. :colbert:

McCain was absolutely a natural born citizen. He was borne to a military family in the panama canal zone.

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Duzzy Funlop posted:

Hold on, explain this to me in layman's terms. What do we know now that the public didn't know back then that made him seem like a douchebag for doing it before the election?

We didn't know that Comey specifically was overseeing investigation into FBI leaks going to Rudy. As soon as the FBI got Weiner's laptop the Trump people knew about it and the emails. Had Comey not said anything, Trump and/or Russia would have.

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Pesticide20 posted:

They waited this long?

Trump has got poo poo lawyers if they're not bullying people.

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facialimpediment posted:

Reminder: I post a lot of Donnie poo poo, but I try my best to only post the incredible poo poo.

Like an unnamed Republican asked whether an administration staff change-up would ameliorate this latest crisis, a Republican source formerly involved with a pro-Trump political group told The Daily Beast, “yes, if it comes with a frontal lobotomy for Trump.”

Like an unnamed Republican saying "Every day he looks more and more like a complete moron” said one senior administration official who also worked on Trump’s campaign. “I can’t see Trump resigning or even being impeached, but at this point I wish he’d grow a brain and be the man that he sold himself as on the campaign.”

Like “On a big case like this, the ideal thing would be a wiretap on your number one subject,” Gomez added. “But in this case, you don’t need a wiretap. He just comes right out and says it.”

Porn here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/19/trump-officials-he-looks-more-and-more-like-a-complete-moron

I treat all of this like a roller coaster ride. I know that at the end of all this, we're just back at the start like nothing really happened. But it's a fun ride.

That's why I made at trump thread. Post all the crazy poo poo you want in there.

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Trump hasn't left his plane yet. Flynn has been outed as a full patsy. Trump loving joked with Kislyak about how firing Comey would solve his problems.



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MrMojok posted:

Where is it?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3820146

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Pentagon is saying they're going to de-conflict with Russia regarding Syria and work with them to fight ISIS which I guess means leaving Assad in power and lifting some sanctions.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/pentagon-isis-update/index.html?sr=twCNN052017pentagon-isis-update1246AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=37816112

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ded posted:

Good. That was a lovely thing to do to that kid. I hope he gets enough money out of this to fund him for a full doctorate.

I think you misunderstand. The kid's lawsuit got tossed. They have a chance to submit an amended suit, but as it is right now the judge granted the school's motion to dismiss and he lost.

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