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Bispings pretty old too to be fair.. hes only a few years younger than Silva and a bunch older than Rockhold. Hes been fighting for a long time
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May 3, 2017 01:04
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If you dont love Bisping as champ and how he got there you're a bad mma fan Hth.
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May 3, 2017 01:30
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BlindSite posted:If you dont love Bisping as champ and how he got there you're a bad mma fan Got kept around for years because they desperately wanted the UK market, and he kept screwing it up so consistently that they got desperate enough to give Dan Hardy a title shot. Meanwhile, he would get swept by Brian Stann or have to really blatantly cheat against Jorge Rivera. Then everyone else disintergrated a little faster than him and then he purposefully avoided any meaningful title defences? How inspiring. Robbie Lawler has the actual inspiring unlikely champ story that we're pretending Bispin has.
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May 3, 2017 02:11
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BlindSite posted:If you dont love Bisping as champ and how he got there you're a bad mma fan Agreed, he's terrible but that left hook was one of the most beautiful moments in mma.
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May 3, 2017 02:13
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rockhold was less handsome when he was on steroids. they gave him big jaw bloat and the weird sideways gut that is like one of those fake 3d images that looks like it has extra dimensions from certain angles. steroids give yolked people the jawlines of people fatter than they are.
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May 3, 2017 02:23
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Gay Horney posted:rockhold was less handsome when he was on steroids. they gave him big jaw bloat and the weird sideways gut that is like one of those fake 3d images that looks like it has extra dimensions from certain angles. steroids give yolked people the jawlines of people fatter than they are. That's a chin, not a jawline, dude.
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May 3, 2017 02:26
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Snowman_McK posted:That's a chin, not a jawline, dude. i am beset on all sides by trolls
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May 3, 2017 02:35
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Nick, Nate, and Gilbert are on this week's episode of "Anthony Bourdain; Parts Unknown." We get to learn what they ate growing up, mac cheese, hotdogs, and beans.
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May 3, 2017 02:40
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Nick, Nate, and Gilbert are on this week's episode of "Anthony Bourdain; Parts Unknown." Now I want Cody Garbrandt to get interviewed by Salman Rushdie. I can't imagine it'll be any less weird.
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May 3, 2017 02:48
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I'm pretty sure Bourdain is good friends with the Diaz bros. He has been training BJJ for a while now.
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May 3, 2017 03:00
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Snowman_McK posted:Anderson Silva is old, Luke Rockhold fought like an idiot, Dan Henderson is even older. Two of those still nearly finished him. he deserves the credit for the rockhold win. he overcame his own poo poo to beat that guy.
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May 3, 2017 03:01
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manyak posted:Bispings pretty old too to be fair.. hes only a few years younger than Silva and a bunch older than Rockhold. Hes been fighting for a long time Yeah hes way old
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May 3, 2017 03:11
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Rockhold fought basically the same way he did in the first fight, when he trounced Bisping soundly, so it seems silly to say he fought a stupid fight.
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May 3, 2017 03:13
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BlindSite posted:If you dont love Bisping as champ and how he got there you're a bad mma fan Fair play to him, he adjusted his style from his losses, took a fight on short notice against overwhelming odds and became the champion. Then he proceeded to undermine the legimacy of his accomplishment at every opportunity by taking a fight from the legends circuit, then demanding a fight as fast as possible into ducking jacare because that was TOO soon into not taking a fight for 10+ months. Bisping sincerely seems to have turned a corner and it's utterly frustrating not to see him show it.
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May 3, 2017 03:14
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Snowman_McK posted:That's a chin, not a jawline, dude. GH can change your face, is that what the guy was on about?
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May 3, 2017 03:16
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Snowman_McK posted:Now I want Cody Garbrandt to get interviewed by Salman Rushdie. I can't imagine it'll be any less weird. "No disrespect but I heard someone declare that you have a fatwad and I'm going to eat it up."
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May 3, 2017 03:16
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big money big clit posted:Rockhold fought basically the same way he did in the first fight, when he trounced Bisping soundly, so it seems silly to say he fought a stupid fight. He didn't take bisping seriously and that jab he lunged in with was so lazy
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May 3, 2017 03:19
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big money big clit posted:Rockhold fought basically the same way he did in the first fight, when he trounced Bisping soundly, so it seems silly to say he fought a stupid fight. Nah, the first fight he picked him off at range with kicks. The second he waded in as if his boxing defence isn't poo poo (his boxing defence is poo poo) Charles Gnarwin posted:"No disrespect but I heard someone declare that you have a fatwad and I'm going to eat it up." This post is loving amazing.
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May 3, 2017 03:19
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Skip My Posts posted:He didn't take bisping seriously and that jab he lunged in with was so lazy He literally looked like he thought he was sparring with a non fighter on bully beatdown he was so blase.
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May 3, 2017 03:22
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Charles Gnarwin posted:"No disrespect but I heard someone declare that you have a fatwad and I'm going to eat it up." hahaha
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May 3, 2017 03:27
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Well Bisping took the fight on short notice and it was Rockholds to lose and he lost. Cant be at your best every night, theres a reason why really long win streaks are impressive even if you arent fighting the best of the best, especially when youre the champ and everyones gunning for you. The fight definitely "counts" As far as ducking Jacare goes. Jacare fought someone good for the first time in the post USADA era and looked like poo poo and got hosed up. If hes ducking anyone now its Romero (also a steroid cheater) or Whittaker (basically bisping but better at everything)
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May 3, 2017 03:35
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everyone at middleweight is 40 years old or more and sucks just like heavyweight. that's why Bisping & Miocic look the same in the pics
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May 3, 2017 03:40
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handsome only face posted:everyone at middleweight is 40 years old or more and sucks just like heavyweight. that's why Bisping & Miocic look the same in the pics Yeah the situation outside of like the top 5 is really insanely lovely right now for every division MW and above Johny Hendricks has one fight at MW following 3 straight losses at WW -- he took Lombard to decision. Lombard is 0-4 in the past 3 years with two brutal KO losses and a pop for steroids. Hendricks is the 12th rated MW
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May 3, 2017 03:46
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manyak posted:Yeah the situation outside of like the top 5 is really insanely lovely right now for every division MW and above Amen
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May 3, 2017 03:46
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manyak posted:Whittaker (basically bisping but better at everything) The two have nothing in common stylistically. Definitely not enough to conclude that they are the same fighter.
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May 3, 2017 03:49
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Snowman_McK posted:The two have nothing in common stylistically. Definitely not enough to conclude that they are the same fighter. there's no need to be that pedantic. they're both well rounded strikers who use wrestling almost exclusively defensively.
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May 3, 2017 03:51
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Snowman_McK posted:The two have nothing in common stylistically. Definitely not enough to conclude that they are the same fighter. If you say so dude
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May 3, 2017 03:53
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Marching Powder posted:there's no need to be that pedantic. they're both well rounded strikers who use wrestling almost exclusively defensively. Ehh not really, they both have completely different approaches to striking And neither is well rounded as a striker.
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May 3, 2017 03:59
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1st AD posted:Ehh not really, they both have completely different approaches to striking what in the world.... ok guys i concede the point. whittaker is not literally bisping. sorry for the confusion.
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May 3, 2017 04:02
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Marching Powder posted:there's no need to be that pedantic. they're both well rounded strikers who use wrestling almost exclusively defensively. If you're going to be that vague, Bisping and Cain Velasquez are the same fighter. Both hit people, both are fit, and neither has lost to Royce Gracie. Whittaker's lunging right hooks, mixed in with feints into left hands, are really nothing like Bisping's jab-cross-shuffle/occasionally sitting down on counter punches. I'd go so far as to say they're diametrically opposed.
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May 3, 2017 04:01
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lightweight is the sickest division and featherweight kind of quietly but not really became great after Conor vacated, even though the interim title thing was stupid and the first in a slippery slope of dumb title poo poo
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May 3, 2017 04:02
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1st AD posted:
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May 3, 2017 04:02
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Snowman_McK posted:If you're going to be that vague, Bisping and Cain Velasquez are the same fighter. Both hit people, both are fit, and neither has lost to Royce Gracie. hahaha
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May 3, 2017 04:04
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Charles Gnarwin posted:"No disrespect but I heard someone declare that you have a fatwad and I'm going to eat it up." PotY manyak posted:Yeah the situation outside of like the top 5 is really insanely lovely right now for every division MW and above And LHW doesn't even have that.
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May 3, 2017 05:23
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Idk, I've only watched the fight once but I think Whittaker looked pretty well rounded when he easily got Jacare off of his back and proceeded to smash him with a bunch of different strikes.
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May 3, 2017 05:55
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threeagainstfour posted:Idk, I've only watched the fight once but I think Whittaker looked pretty well rounded when he easily got Jacare off of his back and proceeded to smash him a bunch of different strikes. His core strength is ridiculous. He's drat near impossible to keep down. He can also close distance really fast, and he angles his head well as he does it. He looks vulnerable as he lunges, but he isn't.
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May 3, 2017 06:02
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In case anyone cares (y'all don't), but here's how old each division is, on average, based on the champ +top 15 ranking setup UFC offers: Middleweight - 34.375 Heavyweight - 34.125 Light Heavyweight - 32.9375 Welterweight - 32.3125 Women's bantamweight - 31.1875 Lightweight - 30.4375 Bantamweight - 30.375 Featherweight - 29.25 Strawweight - 28.625 Flyweight - 28.4375 Strawweight and flywweight both have 4 fighters that are 25 or younger. The remaining 8 divisions have 7 fighters 25 or younger combined. Straw and fly have 0 people older than 35 (Straw has 34-year old Jessica Aguilar and fly has 33 year old John Moraga). Not only does every other division have people 35+, there are 32, which is enough to fill 2 divisions with Olds. Despite Dan Hendo's desiccated husk not dragging middleweight down, it's still old as gently caress. There are 3 guys 40 or older (Yoel, Anderson, Vitor) and just 3 30 or under (Bobby Knux, Krzy Jotko and Smile'N Sam). Heavyweight has 1 dude past 40, the beloved Mark Hunt. and 3 guys 30 or younger - Francis Ngannou, Alex Volkov and Stefan Struve. Light heavyweight benefits from fictional characters that were invented in the past 3 - 5 years, but Lil Nog, Cormier, Glover, Manuwa, Durkin Donuts and the concept of Shogun's Knees are really dragging the division down into a bog of decrepitude
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May 3, 2017 06:38
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Snowman_McK posted:Nah, the first fight he picked him off at range with kicks. The second he waded in as if his boxing defence isn't poo poo (his boxing defence is poo poo Rockhold threw like a dozen kicks in the three minutes that the second fight lasted. The second fight happens at a close range because Bisping stays in the pocket more instead of trying to dance around the edge and pot shot. He stands his ground when Rockhold attacks, and throws back. The punch that puts Rockhold down is beautifully set up by a left that gets Rockhold's attention and makes him pick his head up so Bisping can put the right hand over the top. He wouldn't have been there to throw that punch in the first fight because he'd have been back on his bike doing laps around the edge of the cage.
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May 3, 2017 06:53
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big money big clit posted:Rockhold threw like a dozen kicks in the three minutes that the second fight lasted. The second fight happens at a close range because Bisping stays in the pocket more instead of trying to dance around the edge and pot shot. He stands his ground when Rockhold attacks, and throws back. The punch that puts Rockhold down is beautifully set up by a left that gets Rockhold's attention and makes him pick his head up so Bisping can put the right hand over the top. He wouldn't have been there to throw that punch in the first fight because he'd have been back on his bike doing laps around the edge of the cage. Sounds like you've watched it more recently than me, so I'll cheerfully concede the point. I do think Rockhold is a bit more willing to press in in the second fight, and was a lot more confident in his hands, but I've lost confidence in my assertion.
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May 3, 2017 07:04
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Dan Henderson won the rematch
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May 3, 2017 08:23
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