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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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IcePhoenix posted:

Errors are a dumb stat in general because they're 100% subjective.

Also you get punished for having better range and trying more difficult plays.

Yeah good point, from a purely statistical standpoint it's better for both the defender and hitter if the infield has bad range.

I wouldn't be opposed to just counting reaching base on an error as a hit, I mean that's basically what happens already when an outfielder misses a fly out.

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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Another gripe is fielders choice or fielders choice with an error.

Man on 1st and a ground ball is hit to 3B, the fielder throws to second for the DP but it's a bad throw and both runners reach. This hurts the hitter and is an error which I think is a bad call. Or let's say they get the out at second but had 3B tried to throw out the hitter at first instead of second it would have been a difficult play with no clear outcome I think the hitter should be rewarded with a hit instead of a FC.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Submarine Sandpaper posted:

OBP doesn't care for an error? I'm AOK with fielder's choice, you shouldn't get a hit just because there's already a man on.

Fielders Choice is fine in most cases, but there are times where the only play is to get the lead runner in which case the hitter gets no credit where as if there was no lead runner they would have had a hit.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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EDIT: Wrong thread

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Inspector_666 posted:

Wait did they...not score than at error?!

For an outfielder to get an error they pretty much need to catch and drop it. Anything else that requires a modicum of effort and it won't get called an error.

Popete fucked around with this message at 22:40 on May 17, 2017

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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This all circles back to my complaint about Errors in the first place, they usually punish someone incorrectly. If that had been scored an error it would have taken away a game winning hit/sac from Pujols on what was a well hit ball.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Didn't hear anything about this before now, but apparently a fan died from a fall at Wrigley last night. Apparently it happened after the game as fans where exiting.

http://wgntv.com/2017/05/17/man-dies-after-fall-at-wrigley-field/

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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It's more a reflection on the culture that still exists in baseball dugouts/locker rooms and I'm sure it's even worse in the minors. You would think by now people would have deleted it from their vocabulary as you mentioned you still hear it from time to time. I've heard it on occasion in my rec league once or twice.

It's something that should be called out regardless if the player specifically meant to be homophobic or not. It's the only way the whole locker room culture will change, if guys feel they will be scrutinized for saying that kinda stuff.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Zigmidge posted:

Bring on the cubsposting to save us from this slapfight.

I think it's mostly been Astro's posting this year.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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TheFlyingLlama posted:

if a pitcher is so inaccurate that he can't stop from hitting dudes maybe he shouldn't be in the majors?

I believe the term is "effectively wild".

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Look at all these AL fans experiencing the joy of a pitcher dong. It's cute.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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cis autodrag posted:

I just watched Kyle Hendricks walk in the tie breaking run for Milwaukee in the cubs bar in ohare. Feels good.

No you didn't.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Damnit I was just about to post this.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Hello Towel posted:

This team should be drat good in a couple of years.

This is it, this statement single handedly sustains baseball.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Sydin posted:

Yep. Sounds like the Cardinals offered slightly more but the ChiSox pulled the same thing the Cubs did with Lester a few years ago and put together some kind of video presentation that swayed him to sign with them over more money.

I assume it was a single slide PowerPoint that just said "We're not in St. Louis".

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Everything Joey Votto does is cool as hell and if you poo poo talk Votto you're a huge loser.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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"Hey Joey you suck at growing hair on your head"

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Comptroll The Forums posted:

Now imagine this only its for Kyle Schwarber and it's 2037

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Poque posted:

Ring may be covered in beer cheese soup, use as identifier at your own risk

Alternatively here is a picture of Poque.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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I didn't think it was possible for Stringbean to get any cooler.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Pancakes posted:

Thanks everyone who came to the meetup, it was super fun. Especially watching Kevlar get angrier and angrier with each successive Dodger home run.

Yeah it was fun to meet everyone! I'm sure we'll do it again.

Wish I could have stuck around to watch the game. But instead I got a bunt single and scored a run off a former KBO league pitcher :smug:

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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I mean if you're Arrieta what else are you supposed to say?

"Yeah I'm not as good as I was when I won the Cy Young so I guess I should only get a 3/60 deal."

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Timby posted:

Oh, I don't blame him for making those comments, and like I said, Boras is just doing his job, which is to get his clients as much money as possible (I continue to insist that Boras has been the biggest boon to players since Marvin Miller), I just have a hard time imagining any team being willing to fork out 7 / 210 for a guy who had one and a half great years and now is pitching worse than he ever did in Baltimore.

Arrieta is still better than he was with Baltimore. He had a solid season last year that only looked bad relative to 2015.

I still contend that Arrieta is a better pitcher than his current numbers, not 7/210 better. But he should do fine in FA.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Astros posting

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Oct 6, 2009

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Harper did nothing wrong.

I saw the fight but what preceded it? Did Harper get beaned for no reason?

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Yeah gently caress that. Good on Harper.

Popete
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Craptacular! posted:

Considering baseball has a HBP process, I don't think it's appropriate for a batter to charge the mound at almost any situation, sorry.

Harper can be and has been better than that. He got hit for bullshit reasons in his first season and didn't throw punches in response.

What process? Harper should just accept that he's gonna get hit if he plays well?

I get that it's your team, but Strickland is an idiot and pitchers need to face repercussions if they wanna throw at someone if MLB isn't going to do anything about it.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Buster Posey is like the righteous judge of baseball and if he doesn't come to your defense you probably hosed up.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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This is the moment when Bumgarner regrets riding that dirtbike the most.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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NiceGuy posted:

Hunter strickland is a douche and an instigator but lol if you really can't get some amount of enjoyment out of bryce harper getting smacked every once in awhile

and yeah a 'deceptive' helmet throw, that's what it was :lol:

I like Bryce Harper, why would I want him to get smacked?

He gets poo poo for being a bro or whatever but everything he's ever said in the media I've agreed with so far.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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He made Papelbon look like the gigantic baby he is. How could you not like Bryce?

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Salvor_Hardin posted:

To be a proper analogy, the batter's response to getting HBP would be to let go of the bat during a swing in his next at bat and try to hit the pitcher. Actually, that would kind of own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JTu0lxDSE

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Spoeank posted:

When he stands up you can almost hear the "golly jeepers strick whydya go and do that for"

Posey had the biggest shoulder shrug reaction that said it all. He even steps backwards from the plate.

"Yeah you deserve this"

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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If I was as good as Bryce Harper at baseball I would cover my entire face in eye black.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Is Bryce Harper good enough to get away with black face? We may soon find out.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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I know the #1 thing I take into consideration is wRC+ well spamming 5 votes per day to see Kyle Schwarber bumble around in left field during the ASG.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Wow, MLB actually handled this well?

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Der Meister posted:

The all star game vote is retarded and I hate the Cubs. Thank you.

Somebody's mad cause their teams fans can barely get Corey Seager ahead of Addison Russell :smug:

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Cubs score a run! Woooooooh Contreras!

EDIT: Not the GDT!

Popete fucked around with this message at 04:19 on May 31, 2017

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