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Magikarpal Tunnel posted:I also really loved the Lakeside part of the story. I do really relate to you saying it has the same feelings as a sandboxy game/Stardew Valley (a game I really love) save. My first time reading the book, the Lakeside chapters were TERRIBLE, they slowed down the pace, they detracted from the real story, etc. Re-reading, however, made me love it. Like, Shadow's getting a break from supernatural beings for a while, time to regroup, forget about sacrifices & gods for a bit and OH COME ON, loving REALLY??? HERE TOO?? And it also plays so perfectly into the whole "Wednesday is pulling the strings all along, Shadow is just his puppet" thing. Even when you start to think that Shadow is acting under his own power, or that whatever is going on has nothing to do with the gods, nope. Brilliant.
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Another clip Innuendoh boy
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 19:31 |
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I want to go into the finale completely unsullied, and you're making it extremely difficult That and my complete lack of self control, of course
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 19:37 |
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Steve Yun posted:Another clip OMG! Cuz she was online dating to find her (victims? worshipers?). And that would be TechBoy's domain.
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 22:04 |
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precision posted:I'm thinking that's Mormon Jesus
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# ? Jun 17, 2017 22:11 |
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# ? Jun 18, 2017 09:07 |
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Shadow... Moon?
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# ? Jun 18, 2017 09:24 |
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That was kind of an underwhelming episode. The story tried to juggle too many balls and didn't quite keep it together, the CG was noticeably inferior compared to the other episodes, Judy Garland was not fun at all. Meh. Edit: I should walk that back a little. The Bilquis stuff was well done, it was just at the House on the Rock that the CG started to look bad and the storytelling got clumsy Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jun 18, 2017 |
# ? Jun 18, 2017 09:27 |
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Lol so that's how they are ending at The house on the rock
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# ? Jun 18, 2017 15:38 |
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In the first few minutes, when Anansi said "I'm going to tell you a story" I was all like OH YES IT'S MOTHERFUCKING TIGER BALLS TIME!!!! The Bilquis stuff was beautifully done, but it was no tiger balls.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 00:41 |
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April posted:In the first few minutes, when Anansi said "I'm going to tell you a story" I was all like OH YES IT'S MOTHERFUCKING TIGER BALLS TIME!!!! I have not read the book what is the Tiger Balls oh wait I have google wtf am I thinking Holy poo poo how the gently caress are they going to do this on screen hahahaha
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 01:37 |
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Yeah the ONE THING I wanted this season was Orlando Jones singing "I got tiger's balls" Really hoping they didn't cast Jeremy Davies for just that episode, he was perfect. "God drat it..." Also he was credited as "Jesus Prime" haha.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:00 |
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FOURTEEN JESUSES
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:02 |
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One of them even has a baby dinosaur might be my favorite line in the series. So drat on point.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:09 |
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Medullah posted:One of them even has a baby dinosaur might be my favorite line in the series. So drat on point. Despite a lot of pacing problems, the parts of this episode that were good were really loving good
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:28 |
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Medullah posted:One of them even has a baby dinosaur might be my favorite line in the series. So drat on point. please someone upload a screencap of this, i may have missed it because of the so many jesuses and of course asian jesus is in a nice suit
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 02:55 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:please someone upload a screencap of this, i may have missed it because of the so many jesuses and of course asian jesus is in a nice suit They don't show it, but someone mentions it.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:22 |
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Here's your screencap
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 04:33 |
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k I am gonna rant a bit one good idea the book had was how these "gods" are no loving gods at all but rather emergent beings from memory, folklore and scraps of beliefs mishmashed by a lot of different sources that eventually arise into a different, albeit similar, aspect from the "original" source so then comes american odin and goes all "TASTE MY WRATH" with poo poo special effects and completely undersells the aspect that these guys are really loving weak and dying imho if the point of the whole scene was to demonstrate the power of sincere individual belief they should have made wednesday deliver the speech first without anything happening at all (perhaps his eye changing to a gray one) and then asking shadow if he believes in him to THEN rain godly lightning on their asses i also kinda dislike the whole lets make this poo poo flashy as gently caress in the side of the old gods because it completely undermines faith but w/e, show is its own beast now
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 06:38 |
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Wednesday just beheaded a god and pissed on his manufacturing plant... there's gotta be enough sacrifice even he himself created for a few lightning bolts, right?
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 06:48 |
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CaveGrinch posted:Wednesday just beheaded a god and pissed on his manufacturing plant... there's gotta be enough sacrifice even he himself created for a few lightning bolts, right? That reminds me of one of my favorite scenes: "I dedicate these deaths to Ostara." "What dea--" POW!!!!
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 12:59 |
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In total honesty because that's the in thing right now: I don't really like the idea of gods being shaped by belief. I don't even actually like the idea of gods needing belief. No one believes in the old gods nowadays, so that must mean they're weak and starved for worship, right? But that's such a...contemporary notion of very non-contemporary gods. It's not actually godly. It's not actually mythological. In actual mythology -- which is a bit of an oxymoron, I know -- the idea of gods being reliant on humans for anything is incredibly rare to the point of being anathematic to what godhood is. And I shouldn't have to mention how unmythological it is to imagine that these creators of humanity are actually just creations of humanity. The gods of the tales are the ultimate kings and queens, the ultimate fathers and mothers; humans are their children, not the other way around, and the idea of them being beholden to any but the most powerful and courageous of their children -- legendary figures who basically prove their worthiness and eventually ascend to godhood themselves -- is not treating their mythology in the authentic context. Basically if you tell me that Odin has become a shadow of his former self because not enough people believe in him, my first thought is "Well, that's not Odin. That's some character that some twentieth-century writer came up with and has attached twentieth-century ideas onto; more power to him, but what he made ain't actually all that godly, much less Odinly." I can accept gods dying. I can accept them even losing power over time and withering away into nothing. It's the specific attachment of human faith and human necessity to the equation that breaks the dam for me. So yeah, all that being said...this is such an entertaining show and I really enjoyed that finale. Looking forward to the next season!
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 16:35 |
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http://ew.com/tv/2017/06/18/american-gods-season-1-finale-inside-episode-neil-gaiman/ <15-min post-mortem with the cast & neil gaiman
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 17:09 |
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BrianWilly posted:
But that is exactly what the "American Gods" are, they are contemporary - the old ones are in the old world.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 17:27 |
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dead comedy forums posted:But that is exactly what the "American Gods" are, they are contemporary - the old ones are in the old world. Yeah, that's pretty much the point of the novel entirely. Since this is the book spoiler thread, it's not even a subtle hint that there can be multiple versions of the same God, this episode had a bunch of different Jesii
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 17:36 |
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BrianWilly posted:In total honesty because that's the in thing right now: I don't really like the idea of gods being shaped by belief. I don't even actually like the idea of gods needing belief. No one believes in the old gods nowadays, so that must mean they're weak and starved for worship, right? Think of it this way - these aren't "true gods", because they are the invention of man. None of them created the universe, the universe created them through worship. It's a different interpretation of religion than the mythological interpretation.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 17:44 |
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BrianWilly posted:But that's such a...contemporary notion of very non-contemporary gods. It's not actually godly. It's not actually mythological. In actual mythology -- which is a bit of an oxymoron, I know -- the idea of gods being reliant on humans for anything is incredibly rare to the point of being anathematic to what godhood is. I absolutely agree, but basically by watching a show like this you're agreeing to suspend disbelief and indulge in the sort of New Age woo, mind-over-matter, power of belief that Gaiman and now Fuller are drawing on, at least for the sake of the story. That's the mythology the show is actually about, not Norse or Greek or Hawaiian or whatever. That stuff's just window dressing. (As it is in most fiction, unfortunately.) e: Or perhaps it would be more accurate not to call it window dressing, but to say that American Gods has a totalizing lens through which it views all other mythology. Which, to be fair, is very American.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 17:51 |
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BrianWilly posted:Basically if you tell me that Odin has become a shadow of his former self because not enough people believe in him, my first thought is "Well, that's not Odin." I mean, you're not wrong. Did you forget the line in the book? "He is me, but I am not him."
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 18:18 |
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dead comedy forums posted:k I am gonna rant a bit
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 20:40 |
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Hannibal didn't "lose" those things so much as it has its own and doesn't care what the book did. Like, Hannibal Lecter in the books is a cold, rational predator. He's like a shark, or a murderous android; he's not that interesting, honestly, but doesn't need to be since he's more of a plot device than anything else. In the TV series though he's a main character and so by necessity Fuller makes him into this larger than life Dracula / Lucifer character instead, and it owns.
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# ? Jun 19, 2017 20:54 |
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offscreen: wednesday drinking an entire basement full of vulcan's god juice.
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# ? Jun 20, 2017 01:32 |
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With the show in hiatus now, where oh where can I get my weekly dose of disturbingly large cocks on muh teevee?
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 01:49 |
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mycomancy posted:With the show in hiatus now, where oh where can I get my weekly dose of disturbingly large cocks on muh teevee? Buy a dildo. All the dicks onscreen this season were dildos or CGI, per Fuller. I find it pretty dumb honestly. I'll never understand why the entertainment industry caters to the general public's hysterical aversion to the penis (especially erect ones).
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 02:03 |
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mycomancy posted:With the show in hiatus now, where oh where can I get my weekly dose of disturbingly large cocks on muh teevee? It's 2017, getting a dong on your screen really isn't hard to do.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 02:54 |
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precision posted:Buy a dildo. All the dicks onscreen this season were dildos or CGI, per Fuller. I find it pretty dumb honestly. I'll never understand why the entertainment industry caters to the general public's hysterical aversion to the penis (especially erect ones).
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 02:55 |
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Yeah but if you're that kind of American then this show is already going to offend you, which is why I find it specifically strange that they would bother with fake dicks. It's as weird to me, as someone who is not afraid of dicks, as it would be if films and shows had topless women wear prosthetic breasts that looked just like their normal breasts (though maybe larger).
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 03:33 |
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Maybe none of the dudes who got naked for the show have tv ready dicks And I'm no prude, but tbh erect dicks are more along the lines of like, glistening spread vulvas, not tits. Not to say any of that should be taboo, necessarily, but I think it's fair to say there are like, levels involved
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 03:49 |
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precision posted:Buy a dildo. All the dicks onscreen this season were dildos or CGI, per Fuller. I find it pretty dumb honestly. I'll never understand why the entertainment industry caters to the general public's hysterical aversion to the penis (especially erect ones). They generally don't show vaginas either, just fuzzy merkin bikinis. We get boobs, but de-sexualizing boobs a bit and letting women go topless is a good thing so lets not complain about that part.
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 03:59 |
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Down with Sexualized Titties: Titties are Baby Food
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# ? Jun 24, 2017 05:55 |
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precision posted:Buy a dildo. All the dicks onscreen this season were dildos or CGI, per Fuller. I find it pretty dumb honestly. I'll never understand why the entertainment industry caters to the general public's hysterical aversion to the penis (especially erect ones). Some actors and actresses also don't want to be naked in front of the camera. Some charge more for it. Could easily be one or both of those things, or even just a rating issue since the one episode showed simulated penetration. Keep dicks off to keep it rating friendly for when it's released on DVD.
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