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May 2, 2017 08:31
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precision posted:Booo! Hiss! Not cool, man. Sure, let's show Bilquis' bush, but a PENIS?! HELL NO! If you see bush on TV its a merkin. Basically a fuzzy bikini. Always seemed kinda weird that its okay to fully hang dong, but women can't ever go fully nude or its porn. Not that dongs are all that common, but you know.
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May 2, 2017 17:55
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a kitten posted:You can follow this link for a sneak peek at next week's Coming to America segment featuring Mr Nancy. This is exactly what I was hoping for when they said they were going to expand the "Coming to america" scenes. We get to see some Mr. Nancy origin stories  AWWWW YEAH MOTHERFUCKEREl Jeffe posted:Was Mr. Nancy supposed to be that young in the book? I pictured him in his 60s but that might've just been my imagination. I don't think so, but Orlando Jones is killing it so who cares. Yeah I pictured Nancy as a fat older man in a big yellow suit.
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May 2, 2017 22:02
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Max posted:we are going to see everything 
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May 2, 2017 23:12
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a kitten posted:Gonna nab this quote from the other thread. Yes, I wanna see Lucy's tits 
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May 3, 2017 04:16
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Cloris Leachman is a treasure and she's going to kill as Zorya. So many perfect castings in this show.
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May 3, 2017 18:32
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stereobreadsticks posted:About Mr. Nancy, I definitely pictured him as being quite a bit older than Orlando Jones but other than that I think the representation is pretty close to my image of him. In the novel he doesn't really get into racial issues with Shadow and Wednesday, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have opinions on them and it certainly doesn't mean he wouldn't give his worshipers on the slave ships the kind of advice he's shown giving them in that clip. It's one thing to be all jovial and friendly sitting on the porch with a beer in Florida, but that kind of thing doesn't really work in the hold of a transatlantic slaver. Anger is appropriate for the character, and for any character really, in that context. But that's what's so perfect about the scene, and what shows good things for the future of this show. They were going off-book but it perfectly fits the tone of Mr. Nancy. He wasn't angry. He was smiling. It was the slave in the ship who was angry, and he was applauding the anger; because anger gets poo poo done. Nancy isn't angry, at least not in the same way. He's the master trickster. He knows exactly how to push people's buttons and play them to get them to do what he wants. And that's exactly what he's doing Its so perfect when he mentions farming indigo for purple suits as he tugs on his own purple suit. He's a showman, and he's selling himself to them. Same as Wednesday.
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May 4, 2017 07:41
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Shooting Blanks posted:I took that as him deceiving the slaves as well, to an extent. So much of what he's saying would have no meaning for a slave bound for America - tobacco, cancer, police, etc. He's the embodiment of fear of what's coming, knowledge that where they are is a bad place to be but to an extent, the unknown. Technical Boy did the same thing, except was more forthcoming about his weirdness - but he's also very new, and probably doesn't see it as a bad thing. Mr. Nancy's appearance was more as he imagined himself, rather than his current corporeal form. No, I'm with you exactly. That's what I meant by "he's a showman", he's playing it up, he's bullshitting them. To a certain extent he's telling the truth, but he's also playing them. That's Anansi true and true. BravestOfTheLamps posted:They cast some dude called Jeremy Davies on the show. Somebody never watched  precision posted:edit: scratch everything I just said because... THIS RULES I want to see White Jesus meet Black Jesus so loving bad.
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May 5, 2017 08:26
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precision posted:RIFTS: American Gods Why would you go with Rifts when D10 Scion exists? Its LITERALLY American Gods the roleplaying game. They even name drop Neil Gaiman in the opening credits.
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May 5, 2017 08:31
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Zurui posted:It's also total poo poo. Lol have you played Rifts? Its the game with megadamage. D10 is a revelation by comparison, even if Scion is the weakest White Wolf system.
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May 5, 2017 09:17
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I liked the book but always thought they were gonna adapt it into a show by taking the book + spinoffs + sidestories? Otherwise I don't get how you make an entire season as slowly as they are going. Didn't somebody say they have like 5 seasons of this show already ordered, with the intent to cover Anansi Boys, the side stories, and an American Gods 2 sequel Gaiman is currently writing? So yeah they're doing exactly that. Plus they're adding sections like the new Mr.Nancy "coming to america" scene which wasn't in the book. We'll probably get scenes like that for Czernobog and others too. Maybe even Mad Sweeny will get an origin story.
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May 7, 2017 21:15
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""you don't even know you're black yet. You think you're just people." God drat Orlando Jones is on fire as Anansi. They didn't even show us the full scene in that article clip, and the intro bits are even better. "You're already dead rear end in a top hat. At least die a sacrifice for something worthwhile." Crow Jane posted:Didn't Mad Sweeney get an origin story though? With the Irish girl who came over as an indentured servant? It's been like five years since I've read the book, I could be completely misremembering. Ah yeah, there's lots I'm forgetting because I haven't read the book since I was a teenager. I should re-read it. I didn't read Anansi Boys till a few years later so its more fresh on my memory.
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May 7, 2017 22:03
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DentD posted:This was from the other thread but I didn't want to discuss Gaiman over there anyway yes, I agree with that. But also I feel like Gaiman has a small preoccupation with dicks and piss. I swear I've read more passages mentioning either dicks or piss or both in his writing than anyone else's. At least its not GRRM where its all poo poo and assholes.
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May 7, 2017 22:11
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drat that's some of the best acting Peter Stormare has ever done. He's always had more of a bit role so its great to see him really get to be the star for a bit.
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May 7, 2017 22:43
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punch drunk posted:It was a song written specifically for the show and its in english? Unless I'm missing something. Yeah it sounded like English to me, just REALLY hard to make out most of it
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May 8, 2017 05:43
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Lemon posted:In the book Laura saved Shadow from the Agency, not the Technical Boy's goons. But I can't think of anyone else who it would have been in this. Yeah, and I think the dream sequence Shadow had of Laura not being dead was them foreshadowing that Shadow will find out it was she who saved him. Lemon posted:Also I thought the Coming to America story about the girl who was sentenced to transportation wasn't about Mad Sweeny. She was Cornish, not Irish. Yeah see, that's the part I remembered from the book. There was a girl who brought faeries with her. Somebody earlier in the thread said Sweeny had an origin story in the book and if so, I do not remember it. But that's possible too, my memory sucks.
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May 8, 2017 20:43
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nessin posted:Given the Media scene that's pretty obvious by this point. Although that was one part of the episode I thought they screwed the pooch, the scene with Media makes zero sense without the context of why they may think Shadow is important. If they knew what happened when he was lynched then they know it wasn't Shadow and if they don't know then all they have to work on is he managed to survive a lynching. They know (or think they know) he murdered a poo poo-ton of Techno Boys goons when nobody expected him to survive. It makes plenty sense.
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May 9, 2017 03:16
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Captain Lavender posted:Having read ASoIaF and Harry Potter really hurt my experiece watching those shows; 'knowing' felt like a burden. I don't know, actually, if the Harry Potter movies are just bad, or if having read the books took away all the magic, so to say. I'm guessing both. Game of Thrones, it was hard to appreciate anything but the most impressive scenes, just knowing what's going to happen - and now with the later seasons that are not true to the book which just haven't been as good, I've never been able to really enjoy that show like I think I should. I think part of what helps is, there was that article awhile back where the show heads were saying they don't even care about spoilers because its not about the plot as much as the delivery and the imagery and the impact of the themes. I think that philosophy really helps when you're translating a book, yeah. I get the same feeling.
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May 9, 2017 04:31
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precision posted:I'm the only one who thought it a bit strange that Wednesday was meeting with the Ifrit? A nod to book readers to let us know "that scene" is coming, or have they decided to make him into an actual part of the main plot? Season 1 ENDS at the house on the rock, so basically nothing is going to happen. So they're going to be massively expanding the roles of the characters to fill that space, which should be interesting even as book readers who have the main plot spoiled. Also they're trying to work a few more female characters into the main plot, so people like Bilquis are being built up more and more and then are going to show up likely at the House. Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah, that "reveal" was painfully obvious even before Loki became a villain in an enormous movie franchise. Lets not argue this poo poo in both threads the whole loving show. Some people got it and some people didn't, and if you like huffing your own farts leave the rest of us out of it.
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May 9, 2017 20:09
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Nail Rat posted:Sorry Low-Key Lyesmith was horrible and I'm not going to not say it because one person doesn't want anyone to say so. I don't know why Neil Gaiman thought that was a clever alias. At least Mr. Wednesday and Mr. Nancy had some nuance. They just avoided saying his name on the show which works, all the better to make the audience forget he exists until the end. But yeah, changing his name to something like "John Lowe Keysmith" would be less on-the-nose than "Lyesmith". Captain_Person posted:I'm really looking forward to seeing how they handle the Loki/Mr. World reveal in the show. I wonder if Crispin Glover is going to have a similar accent or style of speech to Jonathan Tucker, or something. I was just discussing this with a friend of mine, its gonna be interesting. I mean Loki can change form, so I guess they'll probably just morph from Crispin Glover to whoever the other actor is at the end, but they may do some fun stuff with the reveal.
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May 9, 2017 21:49
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I never once clicked on an American Gods thread of any kind before yesterday, and I'll post whatever the gently caress I want to post. Congrats on being an rear end in a top hat to strangers on the internet 
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May 9, 2017 22:38
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Escape Addict posted:If all the Old Gods demand blood sacrifice, and Technical Boy and Media just want our time and attention, then this narrative is skewed in favor of the New Gods. They are more benign compared to this bloodthirsty version of the Old Gods. In the books, a lot of the old ones were more likable and less parasitic, which made the New Gods seem more sinister. Have you never read a single story that featured a technological Dystopia?? Seeming more benign just makes it more insidious. In the long run its just as bloodthirsty. Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Edit: Also, bear in mind that a lot of trickster stories that get told have been heavily sanitized. Especially the African ones that were transcribed by the English. There are a ton of stories out there that would've made the Brothers Grimme blanch. Yeah plus, Anansi isn't exactly super nice guy happy times. Think of Spider in Anansi Boys, and that's just one part of Anansi. He can be a right rear end in a top hat. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 08:25 on May 12, 2017 |
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May 12, 2017 08:23
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Escape Addict posted:I think the fact that everyone here has sacrificed at least ten bucks and countless hours to this forum is proof that goons are firmly in Technical Boy's camp. Participating in a discussion of this show is a tribute to Media and doing it on the Internet is feeding Technical Boy. Like Wednesday says, better to die than be forgotten. Vikings may have died in bloody sacrifice to Odin, but they presumably live forever in Valhalla? We don't know. Meanwhile those who worship technical boy are just mindless, faceless goons, totally anonymous, and may as well not even exist. (Like us  )
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May 12, 2017 20:45
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ZorajitZorajit posted:One suspects that part of that Old God / New God split is just how many people there are kicking around now. In terms of raw devotion, an hour of television doesn't possibly seem on par with having your own eye put out with a knife. But consider the tens of millions of people offering that up every moment of every day. Yeah the idea is Vulcan has more power than the other old gods because he's managed to transform himself into something like a new god, he's gone from the god of forge to the god of guns, and american loving worship guns. The point you put out about a few hardcore believers vs a toooooon of people who just do small acts of worship is pretty interesting and valid. As for new gods, we already talked about casting showing that there's going to be several flavors of Jesus-i. (Jesuses?) Those are new old gods though, not new new gods. We'll see if there's any new new gods, but considering they're expanding the book across like 5 seasons and linking in side-stories, I think its extremely possible. TommyGun85 posted:Im curious, as an atheist and sports fan, if there is a sports-related new god considering the prevalence of Americans who watch football on sundays instead of attending church. That sounds very possible. poo poo, look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Sj4uHp0s4 This may as well take place in the same universe as American Gods.
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May 12, 2017 20:48
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Crow Jane posted:Personally, I would be pretty happy just staring at the visuals and watching the cast do their thing for as many seasons as they want to drag it out Yeah, that's the whole design of the show.
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May 12, 2017 22:31
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Gaunab posted:So this spoiler thread is the only place to talk about American Gods? That sort of sucks. There's two threads for that whole reason. This is actually the second one made, the other one came first. Besides, how do you think SA works? If you want another thread to talk about american gods just go make one?? But there's no need.
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May 12, 2017 22:55
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Lowtechs posted:Not click-baiting but just took this random test of which Slavic god I am and lol. I crush you with hammer. I am Chernobog we play checkers and drink vodka huh okay? Link the test, you tease
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May 13, 2017 21:32
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Another fun episode.quote:something like this really oughta be handled by two personnel heh
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May 15, 2017 09:25
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The new gods are living high on the hog, but yeah, otherwise what you said is true. Can't wait to see more of the new gods, honestly. My Lovely Horse posted:I've been trying to work out what rubs me the wrong way about Anansi's scene in episode 2, and I think I finally nailed it down: it's the suit. It makes him look like a time traveller, they should have given him an extravagant, but period accurate costume. Very possibly something of African origin, in fact. Who the gently caress cares, he's telling them about the future obviously he's a time traveller  "100 years from now, you're hosed, 100 years after that, you're still hosed" He can tell the future and shapeshift at will, but he can't manifest a future style suit?! Put 2 and 2 together man.
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May 15, 2017 10:14
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Plus its not like they didn't have suits back in those times Its really not that far off
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May 15, 2017 10:18
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My Lovely Horse posted:It may not be that far off but it's also from a period that's about as far away from 1697 as from 2017 What're you taking that from, though? Did anything in the show explicitly date it? I guess you're just working from the fact that they're in the Caribbean, but did the show even say that or are we just assuming it from the book? Even then I don't think its crazy to think it happened a bit later on, there's not a lot of hard details in that scene to date it. You're massively nitpicking.
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May 15, 2017 13:51
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Zurui posted:Speaking of, loved the subtitles in this episode. This show is so delightfully eccentric and strange. Yeah the English-over- uhhh whatever that was, Hindi? was a really cool effect.
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May 15, 2017 20:14
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Like people were saying earlier and the show keeps mentioning, there's different forms of worship. Nobody dies to media, (well) but there's SOOOO many people watching TV every day, that Media is one of the more powerful gods right now. Even though gods like Wotan or Anansi get complete sacrifices of their followers lives, if its just a few followers, its not much. And they used to be far more powerful than they are now, they're waning in power as not as many people are willing to sacrifice for the old gods, they're stuck with minor worship. So they don't have to be malicious per se, they don't have to kill. But sacrifice is a major form or worship, so you do have Bilquis absorbing people and it makes her vastly more powerful very very quickly, she goes from being old to looking younger and beautiful and gaining powers over gold and stuff. All the gods are extremely self-interested, but they could get away with just helping people. Thing is, desperate times call for desperate measures, and they're all desperate, so some sacrifices are demanded.
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May 15, 2017 20:18
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Aardark posted:It weirded me out that they switched to English for the audience's benefit after a few sentences. I know you can't have extended subtitled scenes on an American show... but you normally can't have gay sex scenes either. If they've been living in the US for awhile its not crazy that they'd switch back and forth, like Spanglish. They used Arabic in order to form common ground and bond, but then they switch to English because its more comfortable for them even if Arabic was their mother tongue. IDK seems believable to me. But I did notice that too, when he switched back to English. I thought it was especially funny that he cursed in Arabic (Your mother's oval office!) and then a few minutes later he gets cut off again and he curses in English (gently caress!! poo poo!!)
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May 15, 2017 22:59
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Nah nobody's forgetting, I mentioned that on like the first page he is me, but I am not him
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May 15, 2017 23:19
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There's probably all kinds of Mesoamerican gods but they're probably mostly active south of the US border, which the book unfortunately doesn't have time to explore. With the longer run of the show, maybe they could do a "coming to america" for some other areas that the book didn't get around to.
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May 16, 2017 03:06
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Choco1980 posted:When I was a teenager, and into my early 20s, I was a super-duper Gaiman fanboy. Heck, I met the woman who would become my ex-wife and mother to my child through a Sandman yahoo group. That said, as I've gotten older, I've realized that he has really big flaws I was ignoring. He's got some absolutely fantastic writing-Sandman for instance definitely holds up, and Overture felt like a return to old friends in that regard as he brought his a-game with him, but he just as often phones it in-Eternals for instance. His novels can be okay, but he goes to the same well far too often. Think about how many of his stories involve a seemingly normal person, who meets a mysterious, possibly magical or alien stranger, who whisks him away on a crazy adventure where the previously thought ordinary protagonist becomes the key to saving everything? How often does he invoke the Mother-Maiden-Crone trope? Really, I would say his best material is his short fiction, as there he is much more efficient and economical with the good bits, not having to add predictive side stories or whatever. So? 99% of fiction is "good guy goes on adventure, saves the world" that doesn't mean its bad inherently. Its how you tell the story, and Gaiman's pretty good at that. Collateral posted:I am surprised there is no mention of Bacchus/Dionysus or Mammon. Drink, sex and feminism for the former with greed and money for the latter (especially after 2008, you would expect him to be a banker). We mentioned before he avoided Roman pantheon because it was too well known / cliche. Vulkan being added to the show is an exception for a specific reason as was previously mentioned. Read da thread it ain't that long Julio Cruz posted:Anyone who tries to categorize him as a goth is doing so 100% from his hair (rip) and the fact he likes wearing black. None of his fiction backs that up in any way. He's really more about fairy tales and oral traditions than goth style. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:47 on May 16, 2017 |
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May 16, 2017 21:44
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Episode felt kinda slow, being a pre-quel just setting up Laura and Shadow's relationship and we already know how its going to end, just watching her and Dane Cook sloooowly work towards the inevitable conclusion. (loving Dane Cook omg) But Ibis and Jaqel showing up at the end saved it, as did Audrey.
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May 22, 2017 00:17
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Max posted:We very likely won't get to it this season but Shadows death is going to be glorious in Fullers's version of the scene, and I cannot wait. We know season 1 ends at House on the Rock so yeah, nowhere near Shadow's death BrianWilly posted:I'm a little confused why Anubis appeared to Laura, frankly? If he had said "the circumstances of your life commit me" then that would make its own kind of sick, cruel sense because she spent her life working in a mockery of an Egyptian holy place and therefore gets forced into an Egyptian afterlife. But he specifically said "The circumstances of your death commit me" and it's like...what? Why? Does Anubis hold dominion over all who die while sucking dick? That's something I hadn't read before. Lol Yeah it is a bit awkward. They could explain it by saying Laura had heard of him once upon a time or something, but it did seem a little funny. But hey, Jaquel and Ibis are amazing so whatever.
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May 22, 2017 10:55
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precision posted:Media turned it on? Too obvious? Media thought that Shadow killed Techboy's goons. If she was watching Laura all that time, she'd probably be more in the know. They don't know Wednesday's plan yet. Until she gets the coin, she's off the gods' radar.
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May 25, 2017 06:13
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