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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
YOU'RE AN rear end in a top hat, DEAD WIFE!

Holy loving poo poo, best episode so far? More things happened in this one episode than the whole season so far put together. So many great things.

Watching Pornstache get the piss beat out of him is AMAZING. Pablo Schreiber has been wasted on dramas, he belongs in slapstick comedy.

Gillian Anderson was in pretty great form throughout as well. Just wow.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

muscles like this! posted:

It was funny how Mr World couldn't stop himself from tipping his hand to Shadow by repeatedly asking him if they had met before.

Also casting two people as Mr World and Low Key makes sense because you just can't do the same thing as in a book where you have Mr World show up and just not mention what he looks like/have Shadow overhear him and then go "he sounded familiar but Shadow couldn't place it."

"I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY"

drat Mr. World being a little too obvious there aren't you :)

Choco1980 posted:

Oh, Loki has a lot of names. Not as many as Odin, but still quite a few. Skywalker, for instance.

Especially considering he met him in prison, should have called him Luke. Then Lowkey could have joked "you know, like Luke Skywalker! In the star war! Or Cool Hand Luke if you like."

Terror Sweat posted:

i forgot, what happens when a powerful god is murdered. does he just come back again later in a different form or something

Gods probably aren't able to die, as long as they have worship they should probably be able to like, "re-manifest".

Wednesday mentions that the doesn't mind dying, the only thing he doesn't want is to be forgotten. And then we see that gods who are no longer worshiped lose all connection to the real world and exist in a kind of limbo, and gods who are completely forgotten fade away entirely.

And his plan was to die at the end, and then get tons of worship. If gods can't come back after they die, that's a pretty Pyrrhic victory for Wednesday. I guess you could say he died but kept some worship so that's better than nothing, but I dunno. I think his plan was to get all that worship and then come back, and Shadow fucks up his plan so he doesn't come back.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 06:14 on May 30, 2017

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

precision posted:

I'm wondering if the Bilquis scenes' purpose was to show that even the Old Gods can be just as selfish as the New ones. I mean she is just straight up murdering people to stay young/healthy.

Someone earlier posted suggesting the same, and it seems extra possible since they changed the nature of the dude. In the book he was more of a dick who was using her as a prostitute, where in the show he was some kind old man just trying to get back into dating. They turned her into more of a predator, probably to let the audience know all the gods are playing for keeps and nothing is quite as simple as black and white.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

dead comedy forums posted:

the only greco-roman god to be shown, then?

We'll see about the show, but yeah Gaiman said he avoided the Greek Pantheon because it was too well known, but he made an exception for Vulkan because apparently there was a lot of Vulkan related coins found in America somewhere or something like that, plus changing him to the god of guns makes pretty logical sense for America.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Choco1980 posted:

It's not even really "changing" him. He's the God of Smithery. He built weapons, armor, hell, even ROBOTS back in the Greek and Roman myths, like constantly. The word isn't "Gunsmith" because it was a new idea, smithing guns is just the logical next step from smithing swords. He didn't stop making weapons, he just started making more modern ones.

True, but the rest of his roles; armor, horseshoes, forges, etc. have pretty much lost all meaning in American worship, so its all guns guns guns for him now, was kinda my point.

The American gods are different from the original versions of them. Wednesday isn't quite a perfect Odin.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

If they went through with the offer and launched the Odin satellite , wouldn't that have just created a Korean Odin, leaving American Odin still around? Or is it mentioned in the book that the American Gods believe they are the real ones and don't know about the versions in the old countries?

It would have created Korean Odin and probably killed American Odin into obscurity. Which is exactly what the new gods wanted.

The book isn't clear about the rules but the ending makes it seem like that's how it would work.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Steve Yun posted:

My understanding: Mr Wednesday would be rebranded as the American Odin, they'd figure out some way to go to war with North Korea and blow them up. North Korea dies. The Odin satellite gets all this praise for being an awesome missile satellite and therefore American Odin gets power again, but subservient to Mr World, Media and Technical Boy since he will be operating as a tool of American globalism and needing Media and Technical Boy for PR.

Why would a Korean Odin arise from this?

The atom bomb arguably had a bigger impact on Japanese culture than American culture.

I think they wanted him out, because Wednesday calls it "exile". Its not exile unless he has to leave. American worship under the new gods isn't exile. But the way you guys are reading it is valid too.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

King Vidiot posted:

It must suck to be somebody who has to pour over a book for errors and analyze it on a technical level instead of just digging the setting, narrative and characters.

Because I really enjoyed American Gods :shrug:

:same:

Also there's no way its worse written than anything pre-20th century. Old school writing, with the sole exception of Shakespeare (because he was writing plays, not books) is so loving painfully dry.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Steve Yun posted:

Is it just me, or was the decapitation horribly directed? Bad editing, camera work, nonexistent special effects

It was goofy as gently caress but seeing Vulcan's head melt into the fire was kinda cool even if goofy

Also the loving look on Ian McShane's face :allears:

Somebody make an animated gif of Wednesday pissing on the forge PLEASE

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jun 6, 2017

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Steve Yun posted:

I'm not clear on how Wednesday knew Vulcan sold him out.

He read him, asked, and Vulcan confirmed it. If he was wrong, no harm no foul. Wednesday seems like a good poker player.

Could also be some supernatural thing like the ravens were spying and found out people were coming or something, but I think he just got a bad feeling from the way Vulcan was going on.

If Vulcan was smart he would have told them to just piss off in the first place, but he couldn't resist making another weapon. By staying "neutral" he was probably hoping Wednesday would go down fighting with his weapon, thus granting him further sacrifices. He got greedy.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

double nine posted:

So is Anansi boys going to get spliced into the Shadow/wednesday plot or is the plan to finish american gods and then have 2 (?) seasons of Anansi boys?

Not positive, but from what I was reading about the show it sounded more like the former.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

precision posted:

Buy a dildo. All the dicks onscreen this season were dildos or CGI, per Fuller. I find it pretty dumb honestly. I'll never understand why the entertainment industry caters to the general public's hysterical aversion to the penis (especially erect ones).

They generally don't show vaginas either, just fuzzy merkin bikinis. We get boobs, but de-sexualizing boobs a bit and letting women go topless is a good thing so lets not complain about that part.

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