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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

actually i changed my mind UBI would give lots of people who are bad with money quite a lot of money and even if some massively bad inflation happens i could probably make a profit just on that

Look at this classist dirt bag.

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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Well, world, we secretly implemented some economic policy 8 years ago. Sorry you had no warning to adjust your investments.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
If someone is earning minimum wage and suddenly is taking home double minimum wage, they will buy double the meals, double the attire, double the abodes. Since these are all limited resources, and consumption doubles, prices must also double. -noted moron

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Hodgepodge posted:

It would get stuck forever at the "we should means test it" step like Social Security (which is similar to UBI).

Yeah, anyone supporting means testing would be denied ubi until their execution.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Digiwizzard posted:

UBI is good in the short term but it's just a stop gap solution. If nothing is done to address the massive wealth and power disparity then it will continue to degenerate into a neo feudal society. you get a massive underclass of vunerable serfs that will be permanently at the mercy of the small class of elites who own everything

That's what taxes and hobbling are for.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

namesake posted:

The cost of living for anyone anywhere can vary massively from person to person and place to place based on their social and individual circumstances. Does this singular payment aim to provide for a single disabled person raising children in an urban setting or a single person in a rural community (to take two examples)? To say there's one sum paid to everyone which is designed to cover their actual living costs is to either give some far above or far below their actual needs, while having additional programs to offer disability allowance, child allowances, urban top ups or whatever else can be measured and quantified is likely to arrive at an array of programs and payments which will get much closer to giving people what they need. While the act of qualifying for anything will always anger some it's easier and better to justify these additional payments point by point rather than have the whole program be under attack by rightwingers complaining about young and single people wasting their cut or subjecting the most put upon in society to the humiliation of real poverty under a system when there's meant to be a simple solution to it, meaning many will simply ignore them or blame them for wasting what they do get.

The kids would probably get a UBI, too.

UBI will probably cause population redistribution, as you may not need to live in a city to get a job. Cash flow increase in rural areas would likely boost the local economies and make job opportunities there as well.

There should also be affordable housing initiatives to ensure accessibility to those only earning UBI.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Where did the communism touch you?

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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Except for the people that value benefits of high population density, like public transportation, more nearby doctors, audience for performance/art, etc.

I don't need to justify you getting salty over someone else's life choices leading to lower per capita household expenditures. What if someone grew their own food?!?!

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