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Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
First one definitely looks like a render. Is it supposed to have been built against the side of a rock face?

The second looks like the lobby of a ski hotel.

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Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Arachnamus posted:

Uncovered the 109 year old tile in the hallway today. It'll be a shame to rip it up.



Is there any way to keep some of it, like around the stair or doorway??

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

underage at the vape shop posted:

That is a fantastic bathroom

Fill in the window and paint two of the walls grass bat and dorkwood.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

cheese eats mouse posted:

Put together a design board for overhauling my living room. I got the wallpaper sample today and will start matching paint colors and paint soon.



Merry Christmas!

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

Nothing makes me sadder than to see historic homes from a definite time period that have been updated with a modern design aesthetic. I get that stuff wears out and needs to be replaced, but at least keep things true to the period of the house. Don't knock down walls and put up can lighting in a 1925 Dutch Colonial, and don't put a marble facade on the brick fireplace surround in a 1960s mid-mod ranch.

While I sort of agree, living in New Orleans where the vast majority of the housing stock is 120+ years old it's very common to see gut renovations where the facade and other exterior features are retained (necessarily by preservation codes) but the interiors almost totally redone. Many period design features are also either salvaged or reclaimed (crown molding, pocket doors, chandeliers and coal fireplaces that may or may not work) but the layouts are not reasonable for modern living.

As an example, the shotgun double.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_house

These homes were designed to allow maximum airflow in hot climates. The houses are made up of rooms in a row, with doors leading from one to the next---no hallways. The kitchen is the last room to the back, to keep the stove from heating the entire building.

This all served a purpose in the 1800s south, where it was hot as hell and no air conditioning, by allowing air to move freely and by keeping the hottest room of the house off the back. But these houses are small, and the layout is inconvenient though quaint. So shotguns are frequently gutted to the studs, and the layout totally changed, with open living/kitchen front rooms, hallways, and bedrooms in the rear of the house. And if you convert a shotgun double to a single family home, you are probably going to rip out the separating wall, rearrange bathrooms and kitchens, and probably install central air and heat. Or one side entirely bedrooms, the other side living/dining/kitchen den in the rear. The point is, while you will keep a lot of the architectural details, you have no desire to stay true to the floorplan of an 1870 shotgun.

Like so (not endorsing the design necessarily, just giving examples):

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sa...305_rect/10_zm/

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/84454646_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/29.979788,-90.038946,29.95235,-90.076454_rect/14_zm/

Floorplan:



For a much cheaper job in a less desirable neighborhood, there is this one.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/2096048120_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/29.953875,-90.085037,29.92643,-90.122545_rect/14_zm/

That one used to look like this. Pretty blighted property in an "up and coming" neighborhood.



The new front elevation is butt ugly but overall I don't think it so blasphemous what they did to the floorplan. Though it would've been nice to install a few period accents like molding, soffit vents, or double-hung corded sash windows, they did what they could to a run down house within an acceptable budget.



Also, space is very limited and lots are typically long and narrow to maximize the number of properties with street frontage. So if you want to build an extension, you have to go up, resulting in camelback shotguns.



Or bigger homes that have been repurposed from their previous, many-small-rooms histories.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/2099113994_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/29.942124,-90.069501,29.914676,-90.107009_rect/14_zm/

Anyway, I'm not trying to say that all historic homes should be gut renovated and their floorplans totally changed with can lights everywhere.

And obviously this house should not be hosed with in the way you are describing.

Just that many times, totally redoing an old house is perfectly okay, even if you aren't able to make it period-appropriate.

Just for laughs, what parts of this house should be kept and what parts should be sledgehammered with extreme prejudice:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/73837106_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/29.938368,-90.090744,29.910919,-90.128253_rect/14_zm/

Phil Moscowitz fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jul 5, 2017

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

there were no utensils in medieval times, hence there are no utensils at Medieval Times

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
That place better have a couple of hidden doors and secret passages and maybe also a bretèche or two.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

I sort of assume that this happened to a lot of houses that got Katrina'd.

Definitely, but even outside the Katrina damage not local building codes make it extremely difficult to just tear down historically or architecturally significant houses. Even if you get permission to demolish you almost always have to save the front of the house.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Holy poo poo that floating fireplace...and the window...plunge pool...bookcasesssss

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Youth Decay posted:

That's gorgeous though, and I appreciate that they were able to include a couple big ol' comfy-looking couches in an otherwise ~modern~ living room. The empty library shelving gives it an almost Brutalist vibe.

Yeah to be clear I love it all

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Hambilderberglar posted:



Even if you're unable to vary the colours of your bricks, texturing is a technique I've rarely seen in the US but it's so very good looking even in one colour:



Yes I'll definitely consider it for my dream house's vaulted crypt

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
That interior looks like a fraternity house, minus the beer stains, holes in walls, and cigarette burns everywhere of course.

e. Judging from the deadbolts and house numbers, I'm assuming that is an apartment building or condo? Explains the lazy and cheap common space decor.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Youth Decay posted:



Oooooh noooooo



This annoys me.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

learnincurve posted:

The thought occurs that the non-Brits won't know about this. It's basically house porn. https://www.theguardian.com/money/series/surreal-estate

I was just saying to myself "I really want to procrastinate by looking at cool houses, wonder if anyone posted something interesting in the design thread" and here you are.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Do the Japanese like Murphy beds that much?

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

tessiebee posted:

I don't understand the whole utility room thing. Washing machines are fine in the kitchen, why do you need a whole separate room? I live in the UK and I see more and more listings with them on. I'd rather have an additional toilet or shower room

In multilevel homes a utility room on the bedroom levels is super useful so I don't have to cart clothes up and down the stairs.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Enfys posted:

I sort of like the idea of a spice cave.

I can't figure out how to store my spices so that they are both tidy and also easily accessible.

Spice drawer. I have one like this. Though it's obviously a built-in solution, not an add-on solution.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Jaded Burnout posted:

Much like fridge doors they're really great for when you want all your stuff to fall over when the drawer hits its stops.

Mine is totally full and nothing moves. :shrug:

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

learnincurve posted:

Do Americans not have wall mounted spice racks?

American grandmas do.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
I Ike the remodel. Sorry.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
It's a throne obviously.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
FRAR should just gently caress right off

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
For when you need to candy crush a monster poo poo

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Omerta posted:

Thanks everyone for the input! I was a little concerned that wood floors plus (primarily) wood furniture plus wood sliding doors would be a bit of an overdose.

Place looks cool, man. Warehouse apartment building?

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

-m. posted:

Delurking to post this, as I thought some of you might appreciate this:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2215-River-Rd-Willoughby-Hills-OH-44094/2093153193_zpid/?fullpage=true

Since who wouldn't want their own Frank Lloyd Wright Home? You don't even have to live in Ohio - it's been a vacation rental. Even better, it comes with a ~bonus~ set of plans from Frank for a second house on the property.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/realestate/living-in-and-trying-to-sell-a-frank-lloyd-wright-house.html

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Now some of you may jump to conclusions, but I really want you to give this one a chance because I think it has potential. Especially since it's an HDLC property, meaning the building cannot be torn down without preserving the historically significant exterior.

http://www.latter-blum.com/residential-for-sale/la/new-orleans/70115/315-eleonore-street__3401235

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Facebook Aunt posted:

$350,000 seems a little high for an uninhabitable shack that can't be torn down.

Oh but it is inhabitable! In fact a totally not mentally ill person lives there currently. The piece of paper you can see on the front door is a note that says "[RESIDENT (WHO IS THE SON OF THE OWNER THAT IS TRYING TO SELL THE HOUSE)] IS NOT MOVING OUT, HE IS JUST ON VACATION! THIS HOUSE IS NOT FOR SALE!"

So you might not need to tear it down...the current resident could very well torch the place after you buy it. But he would probably need to uh...clean out the crawl space beforehand.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

learnincurve posted:

Why...is there a can on petrol/gasoline in the kitchen within easy reach of that microwave table thing?

It's for the lawnmower stored in the bedroom, of course.

I'm the 2x4 wedged behind the terlet tank to keep it from falling off its hole while the resident cranks it on the shitter

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Actually I'm this whole room

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
In all seriousness they probably will get like $200,000 or maybe $250,000 for it from a developer who will do something like this with it.

Before:



After:



"Preserving" the front elevation and historical character while totally transforming the building into something they can sell for $600,000-$800,000.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

I'm not crazy about New Orleans.

Let me introduce you to the scourge of Terry Tedesco

http://www.terrytedesco.com/PhotoGallery.html

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

peanut posted:

I like those exteriors lol

They're soulless simulacra of classic New Orleans architecture. Better than little boxes and trash houses, I guess. But they go up insanely fast (builder grade lol) and have none of the beautiful features of the houses around them. Like if Disney imagineers were allowed to design houses in the city. And some of them are the ugliest rectangular pieces of bland crap you've ever seen.

Like this one:



What the gently caress. Gross.

And these, twin shits:



Look at this nonsense the guy put on a corner lot on St. Charles, one of the city's classic old thoroughfares, streetcar line running down it, dotted with antebellum mansions, Victorian colors, and Greek revival balconies. Tore down a dumb old weirdo store, had a great corner double lot, and he did this poo poo. Look at it.






Yes that is two houses. Each listed for $1.2 million or so. Eat poo poo and die Tedesco.



And these are the ones that he is putting money into because they are in desirable neighborhoods. Do you like beige and white and grey and granite and simple molding and light fixtures from Home Depot? You'll love his interiors. I hate this guy!

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
I love bathrooms with lots of natural light. That two-level one is great.

Looking at redone houses, especially 19th century multi-family converted to single with a master suite carved out of multiple rooms, you really get an appreciation for natural light in a bathroom.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Variable 5 posted:

So Harvey ate my walls and furniture with 14" of sewage water. Is this the thread I can post pictures of my layout and ask for advice since I'm gutting everything anyway?

Bad Munki posted:

Heck yeah, unless Post-Apocalyptic Decay is the aesthetic you're after, in which case, you're set.

Probably looking for the "Fun Guy" aesthetic

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Tell me everyone knows what they are looking at please.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
[quote="“Facebook Aunt”" post="“477131018”"]
Okay.
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I think he means the decor

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
It's a picnic table.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Big Molar

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
My armor was actually made out of that dresser

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Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

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Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
http://www.latter-blum.com/residential-for-sale/la/new-orleans/70115/315-eleonore-street__3401235

Reduced by $50,000!

quote:

"AS IS" NOT HABITABLE, NEEDS MAJOR RENOVATIONS. INVESTORS/BUYERS NEED TO CHECK WITH NEW ORLEANS CITY HALL AS PROPERTY IS IN A HISTORIC AREA. CLOSE TO THE AUDUBON PARK, ZOO AND THE GOLF COURSE, TULANE & LOYOLA UNIVERSITIES.

Translation: uninhabitable house that you can't tear down; buy at your own risk.

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