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Drape Culture posted:When evaluating design trends, it's important that we keep our eyes on its overall place in history. I'm getting POE's law'd hard here
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Jun 24, 2017 23:51
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The huge "The Oasis" text on the wall made me 100% assume it was some sort of little resort hotel. It's really peak "residential decor as tacky commercial design".
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Jul 6, 2017 07:33
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Yeah, I've never lived in a building later than the 1950's and when I go into new-built houses they feel really really gross and soulless for the most part. Sure on the very high end you sometimes get people with money AND taste building nice stuff, but the stuff developers churn out is awful. Not only is it bland it all feels cheap, it feels like off-brand flat-pack furniture that isn't even Ikea quality. Even brand new the veneer is peeling off and all the cut corners are visible the moment you look. And it's all just so bland, and people then fill it full of the same bland furniture and the same bland arts from the same bland big box decor and furniture stores following the same bland trends.
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Jul 7, 2017 21:33
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That place looks like a child ate a box of pastels and then projectile vomited them up everywhere. The lady, the home, it's all way too high energy and childish for my tastes. It works for the set of some sort of kids show with her as the host but I could never live somewhere so overwhelming.
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Jul 9, 2017 21:47
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I'd want to spend the night or visit at like 11pm or something when buying a house.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:01
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Put the TV IN the fireplace, burn it, then roll your eyes and say "I don't even own a TV" when people try to discuss any topic with you.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:53
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I'm not 100% familiar with house building in the US but it sounds like you sometimes just buy into a big mass-produced development pre-build and choose some general options from some pre-selected plans? I imagine you can also pick some colour and trim and cabinet options?
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Jul 11, 2017 19:21
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I imagine they rope you in with seemingly cheap prices then rip you off on "extras" ? Like having the fireplace moved over costs some crazy amount, or X or Y extra appliance in the kitchen ends up costing twice what it should and little things like that? Like adding features to the base model of a car? Where I live pretty much every house is designed by an architect or at least a "building designer" to order for the client, who is either the future owner, or a developer who will sell the house to someone else. But they're pretty much all built and designed one at a time. Maybe sometimes a developer will buy up a big lot with one house and build 2-3 houses on it, or join 2 lots together and build 3 houses, stuff like that. I think it's mostly because the city is fully built out, there's no open land for developers to build huge tracts. But even in neighbouring very suburban towns that have huge sprawling developments they'll often have strict rules that you have to hire one of their approved architects if you want to build there, or they'll brag about how every house in their development is custom/unique. Probably a big difference is that the starting point for houses here is approaching a million dollars and people doing want copy pasted tract homes at that price.
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Jul 11, 2017 19:39
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What if you just want to build your own house? Can you just buy a single lot? Or is all land pretty much tied up into big master-planned subdivisions or shackled into HOA's ?
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Jul 11, 2017 20:11
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If the actual use of your den/living room is watching a screen, then make that screen some sort of honest focal point. This idea that you need to hide your TV like it's a porn collection or something is weird. "No no look at our dignified living room with a fire place and books and art! We aren't filthy TV watchers!" *entire fireplace rotates to reveal large TV and media centre that is used in the room 99% of the time" If the TV looks awkward or out of place in the room (because it was designed with a design-lie that the room isn't primarily for looking at a screen) that's a problem with the design of the room.
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Jul 11, 2017 20:51
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YamiNoSenshi posted:We're just about to nail down our last estimate for a full kitchen remodel and you bet your sweet bippy I'll be in here asking for advice. I assume that's kosher? 100% Haram. Speaking of architects and designers not having a sense of space, an old architect was telling me way back in the day when he was getting his degree there were 2 odd mandatory classes that threw some students for a loop. A cooking class and a dance class. The cooking class forced anyone designing houses to understand how kitchens work, because a lot of these old school dudes had never really cooked, and the dance class was to train everyone in how human bodies move and maneuver and take up space.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:37
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Yeah I've found the size/niceness of a kitchen is pretty inverse to the amount of actual cooking done on it. It's just like with trucks in the city, the bigger the truck the less likely it's ever hauled anything because the only people that can afford the luxury of a huge truck are not people hauling landscaping waste away as a job. Just like the only people who can afford these all granite stainless kitchens with all the gadgets only live here 3-4 months a year and eat out or order in their food, while all the working class people stuck in a tiny apartment galley kitchen that hasn't been updated since 1970 are trying to cook full meals for their family every night because they have to.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:46
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This is my kitchen. lovely electric oven that's main element often doesn't work unless you jiggle it in its socket. The only outlets in the entire kitchen is on the wall beside the oven above a tiny counter between the oven and the fridge. The toaster and kettle live there because they need plugs. On the other side with the sink and only usable work-space in the kitchen there are no plugs. To the left of the kitchen the space is taken up by the dish rack. What I'd give for an outlet somewhere to the right of the sink.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:08
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I can't put in any outlets because I dont own the building. There's actually a light switch on the sink side of the kitchen and the wall backs onto a bedroom but the landlord said it was 100% electrically impossible to add an outlet there no matter how many tenants ask. He also said the same about adding an outlet in my garage even though half the other garages have outlets wired from their light switches. The landlord did redo the tile around the sink and put in new cabinet doors right after we moved in which nicely updated the space. Out microwave used to have to sit between the stove and fridge but he also built these little microwave shelves for everyone.   And there's matching built-in glass cabinets separating the little dining room from the kitchen which are also nice  If I had an outlet or two on the sink side and maybe a couple more feet of counter I'd be 100% fine and happy in this kitchen. Oh and maybe a range with better working elements and a fan that actually dumps the air outside not just into a useless filter. The lighting is great in the kitchen though as the landlord put in these super nice LED fixtures with a bunch of adjustable heads. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Jul 12, 2017 06:33
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Fireplaces are illegal on new construction in my city leading to old houses with existing fireplaces being yet another huge premium thing. In one case a guy tried to "renovate" an existing house by demolishing everything but the fireplace and chimney and building a huge McMansion around it but the city said nope.
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Jul 12, 2017 20:06
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Absolutely not. That's not how inclusiveness in this thread is going to work. Thanks for including my design needs.
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Jul 13, 2017 01:23
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You can hide people's posts behind decorative brick walls with interesting bonds.
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Jul 13, 2017 02:32
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Maybe it's just what I'm used to but I almost prefer a smaller more "cozy" kitchen with a nice tight work triangle. Space is so drat valuable I rather have a slightly bigger living room for fitting my guests. When kitchens get too big everyone just hangs out there. Actually who am I kidding no matter how small they are people end up there like loving Maru the cat jumping into a box no matter how small.
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Jul 13, 2017 03:17
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Jaded Burnout posted:There's an interesting thing I've noticed in this thread, y'all really like old poo poo what of the kind my nanna used to have. I like actual old modern stuff that generally has the nice clean simple design and lines of Ikea but isn't flatpack particle board poo poo, it's all teak and poo poo. I'd fill my house with mid century Danish modern if I could, and slowly am. I really don't like heavily ornamental antique looking stuff and despise faux-rustic french country kitchen sort of stuff. But my apartment is in a 1950's building with a lot of classic mid-century design, if I was living in a 1910 building and my apartment had a bunch of period design built-in I would probably get furniture that matches. What I really can't stand are clashing pieces and homes with absolutely no design direction. You don't need a perfectly matching theme but, just some sort of direction. You really liked that ridiculously ornate oriental style dresser so it's in your bedroom, next to your ikea bed, flanked by some rustic pine bedside tables. Your living room has a big particle board entertainment cabinet with a matching ugly over-stuffed leather sofa but the coffee table is a purple "distressed" looking reclaimed wood thing and there's some weird almost art-deco glass display shelves over in the corner which are not being used to display anything nice but instead full of random junk and papers. The dining room has a bunch of newly bought ornate but cheap Queen Anne looking poo poo except there's a big original arts and crafts buffet along the back wall. All inside a newly built series of soulless drywall cubes with cheap wall to wall carpeting and popcorn ceilings.
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Jul 13, 2017 16:08
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That kitchen looks fine and maybe the glass tiles will make the kitchen dated in 20 years or maybe it will look fine but everything about that kitchen is perfectly fine. We're all fine here, how are you?
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Jul 13, 2017 18:01
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CmdrRiker posted:I personally prefer white cabinets because of how much they can open up a room. The only cabinets that truly horrify me are the dark wooden or dark painted cabinets, no matter what sort of floor or counters they're paired with. And when you already have hardwood floors, it's a bit too much to pair complementary wooden cabinets with it. THis is what the kitchen I posted on the previous page or so looked like when we moved in.  The white cabinet doors really were an improvement, but I preferred the proper vintage 1950's handles and I like doors to be totally flat, no bevels or details. Also the new "subway tile" or what ever is a big improvement over the old tile.  Still don't like the counter or floor.
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Jul 13, 2017 19:06
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That void behind the washing machines is going to get nasty.
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Jul 13, 2017 21:22
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NY Subway tiles are also flat.
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Jul 13, 2017 22:08
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I got some concrete coasters at a craft fair and they are very thick and silly but I like them.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:19
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I noticed when charcuterie boards became big some places started assembling more and more fancy boards that ended up having pretty much whole meals on them, I imagine this trend has sort of evolved out of that, or at least that's what I see here.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:17
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That house is "west coast modern" in a nutshell and done to a mediocre level. Needs a metal roof though for the true west coast reno. I honestly don't mind them, they're not my style and I don't think this example does it very well. But a lot of people are going to in for a shock what their shiny new red cedar exterior ages to. Then again a lot don't even use real cedar, sometimes it's a hardiplank like material with a smooth cedar-like finish.
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Jul 17, 2017 02:41
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I'm the loving queen anne stained glass version of "live laugh love" wall words. I really don't like this house. I've seen Queen Anne done tastefully inside and out but this ain't it.
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Jul 17, 2017 05:06
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Ever since I moved out of the suite in my parent's basement my dad has taken over the kitchen down there as his sort of work kitchen so he doesn't bother my mom's daily routine when he's cooking up some big batch of something, it's sort of cute. It's also a bit sad because the main kitchen is all granite and stainless and big but it's just used for making her quick simple meals while the suite kitchen is probably worse than my current apartment kitchen.
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Jul 17, 2017 06:23
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Jaded Burnout posted:I'm sorry I thought this thread was for posting houses, not screencaps from Shrek 5. There's a trend, and I think it's good, to make most shelves have pull-out drawers in them, even if they originally just had a door and some shelves inside. I've got a bunch of big deep shelves where tons of stuff ends up hiding at the back and if the whole thing could slide out for me to root around in I'd be happy.
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Jul 17, 2017 07:08
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elise the great posted:Do you see anything... strange about this listing? Jesus gently caress this is legit creeping me out. Everyone click on this. I feel like I'm reading a really creepy SCP article or something, like an evil house that is colonized by extra-dimensional mannequins that also turn you into a mannequin if you make eye contact with them for too long. And holy poo poo the clutter, so much clutter.
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Jul 17, 2017 18:19
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Understanding the "why" of so many design elements is really good too. So many things in design stemmed out of practical origins, which were then iterated on a thousand times until it simply became a "decoration" or "that's just a thing you do if you want it to look fancy" but by knowing the history of design, and the often practical origins, you can much better know when and where to use it.
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Jul 17, 2017 19:11
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That Victorian house I like, most all the houses I "grew up in" as in my friend's houses were mostly all early 1900 houses with stained glass and really nice woodworking and tons of built-ins.
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Jul 17, 2017 20:24
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These are what a good chunk of the houses in my area look like, some are still huge private homes, others are apartments/condos that have been chunked up in variously effective ways. So many of them are still quite nice inside, others are a horrific blend of 1900's wood paneling, 1950's stucco and kitchens, 1970's fluorescent lighting, and random out of place modern stuff.  This was one of the worst and I wish I took more pictures. But that's the original stairwell, a mid-century reno that put horrible acoustic-tile like ceilings everywhere (and suspended ceilings in others) and horrible carpet that was last updated in the early 80's. They also had a big ugly fluorescent light ruining the grand entry.  Oh poo poo here's another one. 
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Jul 17, 2017 21:25
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Apartments... with shared bathroom.
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Jul 17, 2017 21:36
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Woah a code lock on the pantry door? Yeah no handles either. Is this a group home for retarded children or something?
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Jul 19, 2017 23:09
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So they have some sort of ok mid-century stuff going on INSIDE but how the gently caress did they still manage to do just a typical mcmansion outside? There's absolutely nothing "mid-century modern" about that exterior, nothing. I really like elements of the interior, but they didn't go "all the way" in some key areas and instead went "mcmansion modern" yet went overboard on other areas. This house gets the mid-century modern look about right  Here's an actual vintage one  And a more 'artistical' one  Hmm it's almost like there's a very strong defining theme of simple generally low-pitch roofs with mid century modern house design... I'd love to build a house like that one day, and do the interior right. Tastefully mid-century modern without going overboard or looking like a mid-century theme hotel. The old houses are nice and generally well built but in the mid-century we didn't know gently caress all about glazing and it's all single pane metal frame windows that leak like hell. It's super hard and expensive to get them re-done as it all needs to be custom replaced and modern commercial curtain wall glazing tends to have thicker muntins and such which can ruin the look and it's just an expensive poo poo show. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 04:33
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Also a lot of people just go "mid century is in!!" and do everything from tiki to mid-century kitch. The key word in mid-century modern is modern. Quality wood in simple straight, usually horizontal lines. It's not just "oh is this thing from the 50's? Perfect!!" For instance this is borderline googie  This is full on  There are always many styles going on at the same time, certainly trends shared throughout, but still distinct styles. If you want to get some mid-century furniture, some old neon diner signs, a juke box, some 60's pop art, decorate your mantle with 50's space-age style hood ornaments, that's fine, but it's not mid century modern.
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Jul 21, 2017 04:44
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cheese eats mouse posted:Yes!!! There were still many styles of that time period. I stick with Danish since that's my love. Also I know it's hard with vintage furniture but keeping in the same wood color family as well! Don't mix a blonde Heywood Wakefield dining set with some dark walnut sidebar. poo poo just looks tacked on. Or anything atomic vs brutalist. Cool, I mostly go after the Danish stuff too.
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Jul 21, 2017 20:27
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Why not hide the oven behind a panel too? Hide the stove top so it looks like a counter, hide the counter so it looks like more cabinet walls, fake doors on the ceiling, fake fridge doors on the floor, absolute madness.
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Jul 25, 2017 02:48
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I swear nearly every house built after the 80's or so has been procedurally generated. Developer or client selects the number and types of rooms from some drop down menus, there's an option to type in a "seed", and then the generator takes over using some simple rules to place a bunch of interconnected rooms. Once the layout looks acceptable after a few re-rolls you click "GENERATE ROOF" and the program processes for a few moments, sometimes having to retry due to it trying to generate non-euclidean geometry, but eventually shits out a roof plan.
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Jul 25, 2017 06:09
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