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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Back in the 1970s our sofas were all wrapped in plastic. I've never known if that was a global thing because it was something you saw in your nan's house and not on TV.

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
My nan would have removed the plastic for Jesus, but he would still have been told to take his shoes off before coming in the house.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
The thought occurs that the non-Brits won't know about this. It's basically house porn. https://www.theguardian.com/money/series/surreal-estate

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
It was funnier in the 1990s.

See what we did in the Uk was this... *turns off lights and holds torch under face* the appliances that came as optional extras with fitted kitchens would have vinyl wrap on the front of them which exactly matched the wood grain on the cabinets

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
That's very very close to my kitchen design right down to the dining area :eek: only real wood, decent counters, and a nice oven - where the built in oven is a door to my pantry.

E: good lord I just saw the difffernt flooring with laminate in the dining area, which I also have.

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Jul 25, 2017

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I live in an ex-council house built in 1948. :) They used the same basic template for all the "new build" estates but whoever the person in charge was was really forward thinking for his time. He recognised that everyone living in the exact same house would be dehumanising so no two houses are the same on the inside. The old estate I lived on could be described as "let's get creative with staircases!" This one is "1001 interesting things you can do with doors"

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
There is a clear line between vintage and broken, and 9/10 the item concerned contains the words "shabby" or "distressed" in the description. The legs on that thing have rust spots, in no reality should the condition be marked as "excellent". Plus it's not a French writing desk, this is a typical French writing desk. https://www.swooneditions.com/adele...dwords+shopping

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

SoundMonkey posted:

i'm loving the "high-class tropical resort dental office" vibe

Imagine that room converted into an indoor tropical garden :allears:

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I want this book: The House of Fiction: From Pemberley to Brideshead, Great British Houses in Literature and Life https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32938129-the-house-of-fiction?from_search=true (review https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/29/pemberley-manderley-howards-end-real-building-fictional-houses)

I spent a lot of my childhood a short walk alway from north lees hall, which was the real life thornfield hall. Little known fact, Jane Eyre wasn't entirely fiction. The names were invented and she set the story in her own time, with a lot of it tamed down for the morality of the age but it happened. There was a real life governess who openly became the mistress of the lord of the manor, he had a mad wife locked in a tower (which everyone knew about), which burnt down with the wife inside. Although in reality he rebuilt the hall and married the mistress.
Whole history of the place is game of thrones level batshit. One lord had seven sons and he built seven halls all within sight of north lees, had to flatten hills and level woodland to do it but he could stand on the tower and see all of them, they would signal to him that all was well with flag poles. Another lord was a catholic rebel who built miles and miles of tunnels running from north lees down to the village without the Roundheads ever finding out.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
A lot of it is to do with smoking during pregnancy, in the UK we eat far worse than our parents generation but our average height is the same because less people smoke - passive smoking plays a factor in that as well because smoking in public buildings is a recent ban here.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I wish British houses were as large as American houses, even your apartments make our flats seem tiny by comparison. :( I live in a 3 bedroom house and there is not enough floor space to justify getting a roomba

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I on the other hand bake, and have four children lol. I have managed to keep the surfaces clear but only because all the cupboards are full.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
There Are Four Children. :) Trust me you don't fill your house with anything unnecessary with this amount of kids, everything that's essential for daily life has already stolen all your storage space.

When you make cupcakes or muffins you use one tray, I use two. You have one toaster, I have two. You have one frying pan on the go, I have four. You have one set of crockery, I have daily crockery for six, and a set of nice crockery plus serving dishes because you can't serve guests food on the mish mash of plates you end up with because of breakages. You have one open box of cereal, I have four. The list goes on and on.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I cannot stress enough the importance of a really good extractor fan. I have two, one above the oven and another along the main work surface, which is used far more than I thought it would be, mostly when serving up food.

One thing I don't do myself is deep fry. I would have to do such a large quantity of it that the only way to keep the walls and surfaces properly grease free would be to have a restaurant style stainless steel kitchen.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Ah but if you boil a kitchen right down to the essentials you don't need anything but an oven, a sink, and maybe one stainless steel unit with a cupboard and one draw underneath. Just buy the food you need for one day, anything else is simply unnecessary clutter.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I don't have a pantry :( another of the differences between the UK and America is that pantries are usually the domain of the rich, they simply were not designed into social housing, and having a utility room is rare as well. This is why our washing machines are in the kitchen

Th history of social housing in the U.K. is quite interesting from a house design POV. Links: https://fet.uwe.ac.uk/conweb/house_ages/council_housing/print.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraced_houses_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-back_house

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I have a tiny one that fits a washing machine and has a work surface. It's amazing, you can run the washing machine without annoying the dogs, and leave washing powder/conditioner/wash basket out, store your ironing board and Hoover, and when you close the door it's like they don't exist.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Washing machine goes next to the sink, washer driers are fairly common here. We don't usually have waste disposal units, and an an alarming number of houses don't have space for a dishwasher, mine included.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I have an airing cupboard upstairs where the big copper boiler used to be. Before I moved in this house had this strange solid fuel/coal fire system where you would light the fire in the living room and it would provide hot water and your heating. Even in summer. In 2016. There is now a combi boiler in tiny utility room, which used to be used to be for coal storage before it was converted, most people knocked the wall down to extend the kitchen but I got lucky.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Jaded Burnout posted:

I've seen these in:
- Kitchen
- Utility room
- Airing cupboard in master bedroom
- Airing cupboard in guest bedroom
- Airing cupboard in bathroom
- Slim cupboard in upstairs hallway (block of flats heat exchanger)
- Cupboard under stairs

I'm not sure if the airing cupboard is a uniquely british invention or not, I've never truly understood what effect it's supposed to have on your linens but the broad idea is you store them on slatted shelves above the hot water storage tank so they get some warm (stuffy, dusty) air rising through them after they've dried from washing.

Also prime location for people brewing their own booze.

The airing cupboard was traditionally used for proving dough, and existed as a thing before boilers did. When modern people stopped baking all their own bread it became a place to store towels instead. :)

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
"Airing cupboard" was a small cupboard or unit in your kitchen next to the fire/aga/oven - they combined it in with the boiler when they were invented. I was related to one of those really strange old ladies who refused to modernise and thought electricity was a sin (in 1994).

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I have a present for you thread.

Remember how last week I gave you surreal estate.(https://www.theguardian.com/money/series/surreal-estate)

Well, Im betting if you didn't know about that you won't know about this one either, enjoy :D

https://www.theguardian.com/money/series/home-and-away

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Do Americans not have wall mounted spice racks?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Someone stencilled quotes from the lion king in my son's new room. Almost an appropriate use of the stencil, but for the fact that he's 15.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
One or all of his sisters, I suspect the arty one but they have closed ranks.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Mystery solved. It's actually a sticker and my grandma gave it to the girls "but we didn't like it but grandma would be upset if we didn't use it so we put it in R's room for him instead"

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I think you are going to suffer without an eating area, if you get a bar stool and have that counter/table open then you can use it as a breakfast bar. Something like this https://www.amazon.com/Linon-Tavern...s=Breakfast+bar

I have spent quite a lot of time on amazon.com since this thread's creation finding out if things exist in America.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Jaded Burnout posted:

Wait, there are people who don't eat every meal in a dark room on a tray on their knees like some sort of fussy goblin?

'Tis true, there are also people who own dining tables and who then end up eating on a tray anyway,


I have (sort of) good news, or at least news that a big corporation was made to make amends.

Argos, basically the origional amazon in the U.K, royally messed up last month. The tl:dr is that I got a big wad of compensation in cash and discount code form. I've just ordered a new book case, curtains, sofa and all the furniture needed to convert my bedroom into a kick arse bedroom/sewing room for £fuckall (I'd put a grinning or smug face here but on reflection I would rather this had never happened.)

Window wall is going to be 2x 120cm x 75cm dining tables running along it with a 180cm* heavy duty folding table at right angles for measuring. You want the two tables because if you have a long arm machine one long table can start to bounce. There is also a wardrobe with draws going on another wall and I'll put in shelves so it becomes a sewing cabinet.


*I legit put 6ft there before remembering normal countries don't mix and match from different mesuring systems.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
A computer error meant they charged my credit card over and over again, until my bank account went "!!!" and locked me out. Took five days to get my money back and regain access to my own money :(

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Why would you make the interior of any house look like a converted Victorian warehouse? I know of abut five in my town alone that have been converted into flats and houses which are now sat virtually empty, so it's not like there is a lack of the real thing.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I don't think it's a converted garage is it? Looks to me like they just put the big pull down window thing in the existing living room. Looking closer that's the same kitchen in shot but with different lighting.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
My googling has raised some concern about having a bloody huge glass door opening inwards in a city with 55 inches average snowfall. Also I see no way of putting up curtains or blinds.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Exterior design but this guy is doing some incredible large scale art stuff, not really my thing at all but I have to admit this is impressive. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/aug/10/structures-utter-eccentricity-urban-surrealism-alex-chinneck-in-pictures

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Would slate be an option? It would depend on the style of house and where you live really. Marble floor in Venice would look normal, marble floor in a big city would look like an office building.

Edit: actually scrap that, if you really like marble floors, gently caress it get marble floors. You can always do something with the walls either with paint or an art.

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Aug 13, 2017

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Liquid Communism posted:

Paint the mantle and stick a firescreen that fits your decor better in front of it if the hole in the wall is distracting. Brick is neutral enough that you can dress it up with a couple elements and it will effectively cease to exist as far as your perceptions go in a couple weeks.

Ah I thought of something, which sometimes happens. Use an actual screen. Chinese, Japanese and European antique screens are all an option depending on the style of house. With them being taller they can cover the brickwork as well.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Why are there mirrors stuck on there as well?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I'm looking at the price and size of it, comparing it to the price and size of my own house, and and wishing death to the boomer buy to let landlords who have ruined our economy.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
To be fair that house wasn't built in 1668 so the staircase is an original reproduction and can be ripped put with impunity.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I have one of those fake electric fireplaces that gives you a pretty light show. it's not quite the same but on the other hand you can have it on low and high and high has it's own thermostat, so when the room is as hot as you like it will automatically shut off and just leave the light show on.

(This may be normal now but I lived in my old house for 10 years with only a radiator in the living room so it's futuristic to me)

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
What is it with American kitchen designers and islands? Small bit of space in the middle? Better put an island in that.

Edit: that an art in the first picture looks heavily influenced by Pieter Bruegel the Elder's the hunters in the snow if anyone fancies getting something similar for themselves. https://www.pieter-bruegel-the-elder.org/the-complete-works.html?ps=96&pageno=1

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Aug 20, 2017

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