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Best Giraffe posted:Maybe it would be safer, in Israel, if we would stop running an apartheid regime and maybe let the Palestinians have buildings, or maybe even just olive trees? Perhaps, and this is just my opinion, but perhaps brutal state enforced oppression, is, actually, bad, and makes things worse for everyone but the arms dealers? yeah like they keep talking about how they need to do this for their safety but it's still unsafe sixty years later sooo
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StashAugustine posted:yeah like they keep talking about how they need to do this for their safety but it's still unsafe sixty years later sooo I believe the plan is if you keep doing it long enough then there won't be any angry Arabs and Persians left then finally the Jews will be safe from aggression.
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Byolante posted:I believe the plan is if you keep doing it long enough then there won't be any angry Arabs and Persians left then finally the Jews will be safe from aggression. bing bong so simple
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hakimashou posted:What is a zionist except a Jew who wants to be safe for a change?
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get that OUT of my face posted:close thread and goldmine, it can't get better than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9270u0MkI2w
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thats a fuckin hot rear end take
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Jul 6, 2017 10:44
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WE should get them and the poster that thinks that all jews are responsible for israel together and watch them fight
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Bernie would have cummed
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Autism Sneaks posted:Bernie would have cummed all ova me... 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:
you are not always spot on, but when you are well, you are
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Not a cop, am dumb. From what I've been hearing lots of people are being shot by police but its only newsworthy if its a black person and a white cop. There was a guy who got stopped in a gas station lot, surrendered and another cop showed up and within 8 seconds of arriving shot him. But he was white so national outrage. Also there was a story of a cop ordering a guy out of his hotel room, had him lay on the floor and promptly shot him anyways, but while the victim was black the cop was hispanic so it didn't seem national newsworthy. Still my first reaction to a video of a cop stopping someone for running plates and stopping people isn't to go 'RACISM' or 'WANT TO MURDER PEOPLE' but 'city wants cops to harass and ticket people' and i'm the rear end in a top hat.
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Chokes McGee posted:Not a cop, am dumb. From what I've been hearing lots of people are being shot by police but its only newsworthy if its a black person and a white cop. There was a guy who got stopped in a gas station lot, surrendered and another cop showed up and within 8 seconds of arriving shot him. But he was white so national outrage. Also there was a story of a cop ordering a guy out of his hotel room, had him lay on the floor and promptly shot him anyways, but while the victim was black the cop was hispanic so it didn't seem national newsworthy. this is the most milquetoast take I've ever seen. do some research on these stories and post them in the bad cops thread.
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Chokes McGee posted:Not a cop, am dumb. From what I've been hearing lots of people are being shot by police but its only newsworthy if its a black person and a white cop. There was a guy who got stopped in a gas station lot, surrendered and another cop showed up and within 8 seconds of arriving shot him. But he was white so national outrage. Also there was a story of a cop ordering a guy out of his hotel room, had him lay on the floor and promptly shot him anyways, but while the victim was black the cop was hispanic so it didn't seem national newsworthy. Source your quotes. Kill your source.
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From DnD pic threadRugoberta Munchu posted:rlly makes u think
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Jul 22, 2017 06:37
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I mean I dont' really see what the controversy is. A wage slave is way cheaper then a chattel slave. Whereas a state subsidized prison slave is even cheaper, just ask Hillary.
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Jul 22, 2017 08:23
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I agree with the guy that slavery would have ended on its own but I might be biased since I don't think the US should ever have attacked the Confederacy in the first place.
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Jul 22, 2017 09:31
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Ya'll listening to the Mark Levin take right now because edit: listening to beck, Levin was his guest. Big Beef City has issued a correction as of 13:15 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 12:50
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arguing pro Roman slavery system of governance
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I agree with the guy that slavery would have ended on its own but I might be biased since I don't think the US should ever have attacked the Confederacy in the first place.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I agree with the guy that slavery would have ended on its own but I might be biased since I don't think the US should ever have attacked the Confederacy in the first place. well, you're wrong, same as him
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Jul 22, 2017 15:01
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I mean I dont' really see what the controversy is. A wage slave is way cheaper then a chattel slave. Whereas a state subsidized prison slave is even cheaper, just ask Hillary. I like how the poor subsidise slavery for the rich, very efficient
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slavery actually becomes way more profitable as individual labor productivity increases, because the base costs of reproduction for an individual person are relatively the same for anybody - but if they're also your slave then you get to keep all profit from their labor value. In market conditions, capitalists have to compete for rare or high value labor with high wages & salaries, which eats into their profits way more than if they could just pay subsistence costs for a slave.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:slavery actually becomes way more profitable as individual labor productivity increases, because the base costs of reproduction for an individual person are relatively the same for anybody - but if they're also your slave then you get to keep all profit from their labor value. In market conditions, capitalists have to compete for rare or high value labor with high wages & salaries, which eats into their profits way more than if they could just pay subsistence costs for a slave. For sure. But for unskilled labor, where there is an over-abundance of workers, paying a pittance is much cheaper then investing in a slave. That said as demonstrated by the continued co-existence of slavery and sweat shops ITYOOL 2017 there are obviously cases where various types of slavery have advantages.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:For sure. But for unskilled labor, where there is an over-abundance of workers, paying a pittance is much cheaper then investing in a slave. It's important to keep in mind that unskilled labor has also experienced massive multipliers to their productivity in terms of value creation. The only reason they earn low wages is because of market forces driving labor competition to depress wages. Wage laborers also have an independent right to struggle, and while you can try to violently resist unionizing and other political agitation chances are you're still going to have to grant concessions. A wage laborer is protected by regulations that limit their maximized value to capital, like work week regulations requiring overtime. A slave you can do anything you want with, and they have no independent rights because you can simply beat them into submission whenever you want. The capital cost of purchasing a slave may sound like a lot, but any modern slaveocracy would pursue policies that minimize those capital costs as much as possible, and which would also minimize subsistence costs of slaves through public programs. Singlepayer healthcare, for instance, is more cost-effective to businesses because it unburdens them of the responsibility of providing for employee healthcare, and reduces prices as close to at-cost as it can. The reason we don't have singlepayer is largely because of a significant class of the bourgeoisie which isn't required to provide healthcare, and are able to more thoroughly exploit their labor without an additional burden of higher taxation. If instead all capitalists were slaveholders, then it would be in their interests without exception to minimize the cost of healthcare for their slaves. Going back to the initial capital costs of slaves, the same pressures that depress wages for "free" labor would also broadly drive down the capital cost of hiring a slave. The more slaves there are, the lower their individual capital value will become, and value would have to be added through physical prowess or skillsets, just like it was in antebellum slavery. The bottom line here is that slavery was abolished where it was because of political forces, not due to issues of efficiency in production. The cotton gin and the later development of welfare states, make it clear that the value of slavery to capital could always rival any free labor system, if not eventually surpass it with all of the revolutions in surveillance technology and management techniques.
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thats not a very hot take m8
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slave labour would probably hold back total factor productivity in a pretty big way in a developing industrial economy. this is (ironically) because slaves aren't actually reducible to commoditized, interchangeable, labour, ala proletarianization under the classical theory of transition to capitalism. perhaps more ironically: this point of difference would be a falling short of the historical possibilities that marx saw proletarianization alone as opening. a slave holder has to keep his slaves almost absolutely deskilled, isolated, and controlled (far more than any rendition of proletarianization) in order to keep them absolutely subservient. perhaps more importantly: they are 'his' slaves as part of a structure of traditional social authority rather than simple abstracted labour. this means slave labour can't be easily repurposed for new production processes, can't be easily concentrated in large industrial factories, can't be easily made to follow abstract market signals of supply and demand, without a lot of basic problems coming up with the organization of this labour in the context of traditional 'slaveholding' social institutions -- esp in relation to the 'free' industrial workers who would necessarily be competing with them on the market at the same time. the historiographical controversies in and around the work of eugene genovese is helpful on this subject.
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https://newrepublic.com/article/143926/dirtbag-left-problem-dominance-politicsquote:Chapo’s many foes seized on the phrase “bend the knee.” Because the show has often been accused of sexism, the phrase “bend the knee” was interpreted by some listeners as a sexual remark aimed at humiliating Hillary Clinton supporters.
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It would be cool if people knelt like they were being knighted when they gave blowjobs though.
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that's like the opposite of a hot take
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Autism Sneaks posted:that's like the opposite of a hot take I think a take that's so cold it burns can qualify. That's Hakimashou's takes, after all.
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now that there is no socialist superpower to oppose the capitalist nations of the world can suspend their temporary alliance and return to their normal warpath behavior against first the post colonialist states and then destroy each other in revolutionary nuclear fire. hot take from 1993
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Autism Sneaks posted:that's like the opposite of a hot take It's just a tedious Canadian blubbering about how Chapo isn't very polite and how politics isn't about win or lose, it's about how you play, which is so transparently wrong it reads like satire All in all, a lukewarm take at best
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brianna wu truly believes this and is running for congress based on that platform
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get that OUT of my face posted:brianna wu truly believes this and is running for congress based on that platform Nice! take
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