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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

ikanreed posted:

There's no way this person is real.

No way 2019 has made this real

It's tough out there for a landlord gamer :shrug:

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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Pomp posted:

This makes sense if words don't mean things

Communism is basically just a synonym for totalitarianism I guess. Makes sense if you don’t think about it.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

DACK FAYDEN posted:

It seems like it might be an argument that would convince the people that it is (probably?) trying to convince, even if it's factually false in every way. So I guess it should get half a point for trying.

Yeah there's a broad swath of boomers who associate communism entirely with Soviet Union as understood by US media in 1960s/70s. They mostly just associate the word with totalitarian governments and don't even think really hard about the economic stuff. Also see that hot take from a couple months ago about Trump being the most Marxist president, and the classic "Nazis are communists they have socialism right in the name."

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm p sure basically all psychiatrists are already crazy

Apparently like everyone gets into that because they want to understand their own loose screws, because they want to learn to manipulate people, or probably both

My younger brother was desperate to get a psych residency when he finished medical school because he said it had the best hours worked to money made ratio in medicine. I have no idea if that’s actually true, but he thought it was. He also ended up in family medicine bitching about folks on Medicaid so I’d hesitate to say he’s a very good person.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

how does mcmegan dress herself and cross streets unassisted by an adult

My all time favorite McArdle thing was when she decided using a single space after a period was a sign of societal decline. Mainly because the guy who owns the company I work for read that article years later and went on a multi-year double spacing in emails campaign. He eventually gave up but man for a while there were some weird emails floating around the office where people would intentionally use two spaces for a sentence or two and then forget for a while then remember and everything people were writing just had weird inconsistent spacing.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Fuzzy McDoom posted:

Ok yeah a BA in history aint poo poo but historiography was literally the topic of the first class in every 100-level history course i ever took

Yeah can confirm. I have a BA in history and the very middling in quality state school I went to made us take a 300 level course in historiography to meet the program requirements.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


I spent some time thinking about this when Scalia died and when McCain died. It strikes me that it's not good enough for them to wield power and horde wealth. They get very upset if we don't respect them for the things they personally think earned them respect. I think this shows up in how we talk about them dying. Like objectively by the standards they judged themselves by they were very successful, so we must be in solemn awe of that success that they say should be the measure of their life. Well gently caress that. I laugh at the fact for all their supposed success they can't stop age or illness and they're just dust like the rest of us. Honestly I find it very funny to know that they'll be footnotes in history at best, if humanity survives another hundred years.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

this was also the lady that said recently that men would figure out consent better if they had a pet cat

It was also the lady who recently said that delivery employees should wear a uniform of some type.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


I'm pretty sure. I'll double check.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Zipperelli. posted:

She shows up a lot here and in the IoSM thread.

I can't stand her, tbh.

I mean, I was making a joke about how that poster mentioned the pet cat tweet and it’s literally two posts up

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

We will not have a recession, just the exact economic circumstances that define a recession

The economy reverse grew six percent second quarter.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Platystemon posted:

It wouldn’t matter if he had an eggshell skull, you fucks.

That's a civil law concept that doesn't precisely translate to criminal law. I don't know the ins and outs of Minnesota's laws at all because why would I as I am not a criminal in Minnesota or criminal lawyer in Minnesota but the relevant stuff would be the manslaughter and murder stuff here and how it works with how they determine intent. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Hodgepodge posted:

The Wikipedia article repeatedly states that it is also applied in criminal law. With the important criminal precedents listed.

As mentioned in the other thread this came up in that's common law jurisdictions like the UK and Australia. US criminal law is a bit of a different beast. Now I'm not saying for 100% sure it's not used somewhere in the US, but in general the intent required to convict someone of homicide is going to be based on the relevant statutes.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Hodgepodge posted:

The Wikipedia article repeatedly states that it is also applied in criminal law. With the important criminal precedents listed.

e: looking closer, that situation was a relative recent British case. I looked and it is a standard element of criminal law in America law as well. If you think about it, there is no way you couldn't not apply this rule to cases involving rich white people, or lots of old rich fuckers could be murdered really easily.

So before I get into this response let me first say that I think and hope that Chauvin will be charged with the highest murder charge Minnesota has. gently caress him. But if he is convicted it probably be either third degree murder or a manslaughter as much as that sucks. Because it's all about intent and the victim's underlying health condition isn't really relevant at all beyond the fact that the cop did a thing and it resulted in death.

So for something to be the lowest kind of murder in Minnesota it has to be within 609.195 https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

quote:

(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

(b) Whoever, without intent to cause death, proximately causes the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $40,000, or both.

There's no room here for an eggshell skull rule because the the act has to be eminently dangerous and evincing a depraved mind w/o regard for human life. Say for example that two people are engaged in an argument and one slaps the other. The person slapped has a medical condition and the slap results in death. Now if the eggshell rule applied that would be murder, but it can't be murder because slapping someone isn't eminently dangerous. It's not murder even though the eggshell rule exists because really their health condition doesn't matter, what matters for the purpose of the law is what the person intended to do and the fact that it resulted in death. I guess you could say that's an eggshell rule since it's all about the intent but at that point you're getting into a tautology. You don't really need an eggshell rule here because the relevant questions are did they die and did you intend to do something that would fit what the statute says is murder.

There's also manslaughter which has a lower intent requirement. The lowest kind of manslaughter is 609.205 https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.205 I especially like (2)

quote:

A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or

(2) by shooting another with a firearm or other dangerous weapon as a result of negligently believing the other to be a deer or other animal; or

(3) by setting a spring gun, pit fall, deadfall, snare, or other like dangerous weapon or device; or

(4) by negligently or intentionally permitting any animal, known by the person to have vicious propensities or to have caused great or substantial bodily harm in the past, to run uncontrolled off the owner's premises, or negligently failing to keep it properly confined; or

(5) by committing or attempting to commit a violation of section 609.378 (neglect or endangerment of a child), and murder in the first, second, or third degree is not committed thereby.

If proven by a preponderance of the evidence, it shall be an affirmative defense to criminal liability under clause (4) that the victim provoked the animal to cause the victim's death.

Going back to my original hypothetical I don't think most people would say that slapping someone creates and unreasonable risk and has the chance of causing death or great bodily harm. Slaps don't do that kind of damage. Now maybe if you know someone is really loving frail and do it anyway, that changes things, but that wouldn't be the eggshell rule because that rule is about unknown conditions.

This is getting too effort posty though and gently caress effort so I'll just say that US criminal law is mostly driven by the statutes and not common law concepts.

HashtagGirlboss has issued a correction as of 01:12 on May 30, 2020

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Hodgepodge posted:

we aren't lawyers, and trying to dig deeper than "yes, this broad rule applicable in the jurisdiction" is a good way to end up arguing about things that are legally unrelated

like i am here saying that the rough equivalent of "negligence rather than intent is not a defense in homicide cases," and you are saying "there is a law that specifically applies to negligent homicide." great, that doesn't make negligence a defense, it makes it evidence towards conviction for a specific type of homicide.

I'm saying that broad rule isn't really applicable but yeah it's not particularly important because crushing someone's neck with your knee easily satisfies at bare minimum the third degree murder law.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Platystemon posted:

“Doesn’t matter” may have been a step too far, but they act like “well if the guy had a preexisting condition, the Chauvinists are totally off the hook! Case closed!” when that is absolutely not the case.

It’s “died from COVID vs. died with COVID” in a nut shell.

yeah ultimately you're right and I'm just being prissy about words

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Yeah, I was confused when it was implied that America wasn't a common law country. Unless your entire knowledge of the law is based on a Louisiana context, it should be real obvious that the US is a common law system.

Sorry. Didn’t mean to cause confusion. US criminal law is statutory. There’s still a ton of common law in US civil law but once you’re into criminal stuff it’s a whole different world. Which isn’t to say that common law principals like precedent and stuff don’t still come in. But when it comes in it’s about statutory construction and not broad principals.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Hodgepodge posted:

I think there's a little confusion about what common law means. From a introductory text on US law found on Google:


This is what it means to be a common law country. It is why the Supreme Court matters so much, whereas in another system it's decisions might be the last word on a given case, but not bind lower courts.

A later bit might clear up confusion:


Lol so this clears up a lot. So what do we mean when we talk about civil law. You’re talking about the civil law v common law distinction which I should have picked up earlier. I’m talking about the civil v criminal distinction in the US legal system.

This: https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/the-differences-between-a-criminal-case-and-a-civil-case.html

You’re talking about the civil law v common law distinction: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_(legal_system)

Unsurprisingly when we’re using a word two different ways were not exactly communicating effectively

Lmao I never really thought about it but it’s dumb as gently caress

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_(common_law)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_(legal_system)

HashtagGirlboss has issued a correction as of 05:58 on May 30, 2020

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Hodgepodge posted:

Well it's specifically flagged as a common confusion in the basic books, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

Honestly this is the best kind of internet slap fight where coming to an agreement is impossible because we’re both using the same word to mean two different things. Kinda loving hilarious.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Koishi Komeiji posted:


I regret to inform you that the balloon guy is doing his balloon thing again.

I read that as “hosed” as in the figurative “hosed over” sense at first for some reason and was kind of confused

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Barry Convex posted:

this is the guy who keeps getting columns and speaking slots to whine about the PC college kids oppressing Zionists

https://twitter.com/naftibabyisback/status/1274349798926307332?s=21

That is a thing of beauty. I'm impressed. "Have you considered that pointing out oppression of others just makes their oppression all about you, you self-centered little virtue signaler."

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Shrecknet posted:

See Chris Hemsworth in Ghostbusters. Himbos have been a thing for a long time .

He'll, 30 Rock was making jokes about Ryan Lochte being Ashley's 'sex idiot' 10+ years ago

LOL I remember an ancient sienfeld episode that had this is its main joke I think

Edit: I looked it up and they used the far inferior 'mimbo'

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

actually you see the mormon pioneers are like the trail of tears,

Reading about internment has got me thinking about my own heritage. The imprisonment of US citizens based on ethnicity is no different than that time I had to wait for my boss to clear some paperwork before I went home for the day and my dinner was cold

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Just from that tweet I assume she must mean the cia.
Edit: oh I misread you I figured you were calling her CIA

HashtagGirlboss has issued a correction as of 21:29 on Aug 29, 2020

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


Upon my arrival in far Cathay I meekly inquired for directions to the famed ducks of Peking, only to be met by impetuous stares and rolled eyes. I quickly determined that next summer my holiday would be in a more civilized place such as Kiev where such controversies are unknown

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

DoubleDonut posted:

Biden supporters are still claiming that Biden supports M4A lol

At this point Biden isn't even a candidate anymore, he's a blank slate on which all of the things that any individual Biden Bro thinks are good are the things Biden also thinks are good and will do and in fact the only reason the good things aren't happening is because of Trump and McConnell are standing heartlessly in the way.

Biden could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and price a million people out of health insurance coverage and he wouldn't lose any voters.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

An anexionista is exactly what it sounds like, right?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


The plastic head has seen poo poo it can’t unsee

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


So I never read that book or watched the miniseries but my pop culture exposure has led me to understand Kunta Kinte was the protagonist and generally not an insult? Help me understand this.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


Huh. My brain just didn't go there and the word play feels lovely on a number of levels, but at least thanks for spelling it out for my dense rear end

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Flesh Forge posted:

people are doing mental handstands to convince each other that no really, lots of previous R voters flipped to Biden and the Lincoln Project was actually super effective

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1325835766434467850

also no introspection as to why a lot of those downticket candidates might have lost other than the theory that R voters went for Biden but then voted R for everything else

I mean lots of reasons why these D’s running crap campaigns is red districts lost, sure. But wasn’t this also an easily predictable outcome of the Lincoln project even if it were wildly successful? Not sure why anyone would think never trumpers would support any D who wasn’t explicitly running against Trump

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

https://mobile.twitter.com/pisscop/status/1329539369108185089

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

christmas boots posted:

IF evolution is so great why do I piss and cum from the same place?

pretty gross when you think about it so i tend not to think about it but lmao when I was a kid I thought women peed out of their vagina and I didn't learn otherwise until middle school when we had the submit weird questions you have about this stuff segment of sex ed class

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

You see, I don't consider gentrification to be an inherently bad thing. It's generally pretty good for the climate, as it makes high income high emissions people live in urban areas, which are more environmentally friendly. Increases investment in urban areas, and it allows poverty to be broken up.

Heck, many of the Black neighborhoods today were not originally Black upon their construction. Who are we to say that XYZ people deserve XYZ land?

I also don't put much value any idea that certain groups deserve certain land. We should desire a multicultural racially diverse dociety. The idea that certain races belong on certain land borders on segregationist talk.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

DACK FAYDEN posted:

you gotta point me to these subreddits

r/bigtiddygothgf
r/biggertiddygothgf
r/bigtiddygothgfbutonlywhitewomen
r/bigtiddygothgfwithswazticatatoos

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

How would a two-year-old child even understand who Obama was or what a president is? The kid probably only understands Obama as the strange figure their increasingly manic mother refers to as a kind of distant god.

It might be a good idea to keep a kid away from tv, though.

Yeah that’s the part that really stands out to me. The parent is so loving obsessed with Trump they aren’t thinking straight. I was like six or seven in 1988 and I am 100% certain I had no idea who Ronald Reagan was even though my mother did poo poo to curate the media I consumed

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Weka posted:

He's been in a vagina atleast once.

Lmao now I’m wondering if there are incels who claim they were c-section to achieve ultimate purity

HashtagGirlboss has issued a correction as of 18:27 on Jan 16, 2021

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005


Without watching her video I’m kind of curious what her point is. Veganism is definitely closely tied to global supply chains and capitalism. The ability to plan and source entirely vegan diets, especially because it’s so closely tied to organic production, isn’t really feasible for large segments of the worlds population, especially if you want to take into consideration stuff like locally sourcing your food, seasonality, water and land use, agricultural workers, etc...

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

vyelkin posted:

I assume it's something along the lines of "only capitalism allows for small-batch production of specialty products for overpaying consumers like vegans"

So essentially what I predicted but without any insight or self-reflection? Lmao

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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Chamale posted:

The massive amount of meat in the typical Western diet is closely tied to capitalism and imperialism. The point of veganism isn't that no one on the planet should eat meat, it's that industrial animal agriculture is killing the planet and we need to stop doing that and stop supporting it in any way. Feeding plants to animals to make meat is much less efficient than growing edible plants and eating them. There's a place for hunting and grazing in a hypothetical mostly-vegan world, but most of the meat in our world comes from factory-farmed animals that eat grains and legumes.

Yeah. I’m not pretending that the current system is any better or any less tied to global capitalism. It’s just that veganism has most of the same problems.

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