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I think the lesson is the same as it's always been: the cover-up is always worse than the crime and careful media manipulation can always get you off scott-free. The GOP didn't turn on Nixon until so much damning evidence hit the public that they had to turn, otherwise they would have been dragged down with him. It's the reason the GOP hasn't turned on Trump yet; they're looking at the polls and seeing that the base is still with him and (probably correctly) assuming that these scandals will be old-hat by the time football season comes around, much less the 2018 elections. Losing moderates doesn't matter 18+ months out from an election so who cares what they tell a pollster right now. I remember when Letterman came out and said that he had an affair on his show, following his testifying in court against his blackmailer. His doing so circumvented the tabloids and had them playing catchup, and the interest in a possible scandal is always more interesting then once the details come out and doesn't live up to imagination, and thus it ended up doing relatively minor harm to his reputation when he could easily be at a level below Cosby now. Had Nixon come (relatively) clean after his re-election he serves his full term and you probably go Nixon into Reagan, though I'm not versed enough on political history to say that's the case. e - in terms of major political figures Nixon sunk himself, Ford after the pardon, and Bork once he was denied the Supreme Court due to following Nixon's order to fire Cox. The rest of the GOP leadership skated on and get treated like heroes because "they did the right thing" once it became convenient. Someone see if Bitch Boy Nate can find the polls from this time and see where the tipping point was, from where public opinion turned against Nixon to the point where the GOP had to turn in order to survive themselves. I get that different times and all, but if it took Nixon dropping into the teens or so it stands to reason Trump won't face anything at all. C. Everett Koop has issued a correction as of 23:15 on May 24, 2017 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:It's true, unlike other proceedings, impeachment is totally political, this is how Bill Clinton ended up having articles of impeachment against him for lying about having an affair that's dr. koop to you  And I'd imagine that any Republican congressperson who didn't have a lead pipe lock on their district would be primaried for daring to speak out against Trump. As long as Trump keeps the bare minimum of the base, and who knows what it'd take for Trump to lose that pardoning Hillary I guess, they can't dare approach the throne without being beheaded themselves. It's too much to expect a Rep to risk rebellion with the constant re-election cycle, it'd have to be a Senator who just got re-elected to lead the charge with five years to either be proven right or plan an exit. Looking through GOP Senators up in '22 and from a state that has some blue leanings, Rubio's not going to risk his next presidential run on making a probable base-obliterating move, Roy Blunt just looks like a cocksucker, and John Hoeven has a mustache and I don't trust a man with a mustache. Realistically it's looking like it'd come down to Richard Burr and Rob Portman to make the move and Burr is certainly in position to do so, but the way that North Carolina keeps trying to light it's dick on fire he may not win re-election in that state. In short nothing matters, drink more, listen to your mother, death is welcome.
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