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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I have beaten this game and have less than no idea what happened during it, because on top of everything else I haven't seen most of the shows that form its plot.

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Technically it's an ARMA not a Machina.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Oh, Brunom also hasn't mentioned the actual miracle that SRW L pulled off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlm-Y4PUacc

Making Kitei no Tsurugi sound remotely good.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Endorph posted:

every SRW game featuring it has rewritten destiny's plot extensively

Or featured it in such piecemeal use that it's basically over ASAP IIRC

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Inferno-sama posted:

Okay, maybe Reiji can redeem himself. But honestly, not off to a great start. Even if he comes in at 40% upgrade, I probably wouldn't use him unless he gets redeemed, solely because of his attitude (but obviously not up to me, so unless you do a vote, don't worry about it). It's basically why I bench Katz and Destiny-era Kira. Though to be fair to him, I agree with his decision to go at Kouichi. My problem is that he gets introduced as the leader, with our guys getting no say in the matter, and then goes about saying our guys suck and that we have to do what he says, demanding respect as the leader, but not earning it, with Yamashita being two steps away from kissing the ground he walks on. That is my issue with him. But yeah, if he does get redeemed, I'll accept it.

To be quite fair, he says that every individual pilot is an exceptional one, but they have no coordination in working as an army, that's how they suck. He's the kind of guy who likely finds it very awkward to compliment someone and to lighten up off the rear end in a top hat button, hence why his compliment to Yamashita is basically "Yeah you didn't perform perfectly but you've really grown." He's clearly praising his subordinate for having grown, but he lacks the proper tact to phrase "But you have room for improvement" as anything but "It wasn't perfect."

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Rabidredneck posted:

I've only read a little of Linebarrel, but as I understand it, Kouichi is basically on the power trip to end all power trips. Average meek high-schooler suddenly gets super powers AND a giant robot? drat straight it's all gonna go right to his head and ego. It'll be interesting to see how Karma bitchslaps him down a peg or two.

It already kinda has, as Reiji just effortlessly kinda wasted him. But yeah that's basically it. Someone who's been abused his whole life and felt powerless and weak gets super powers, a giant robot, a waifu and even an evil organization to fight.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I like to think this puts to rest the thoughts that Reiji's just a hardass thinking that everyone's poo poo. You can see here that he has a very good reason for wanting Ichitaka to leave and get to safety, but if Ichitaka shows his determination to stay, then Reiji will back down and let him, rather than try to force him to do otherwise or scream about insubordination.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Materant posted:

Relena just does not give even the slightest gently caress these days.

To be fair, Relena NEVER gave the slightest bit of a gently caress for the people who kidnapped her. Seriously, actually go back and look at Wing, even when in obvious captivity she basically only has contempt for the people doing so. I mean she was brought to an Oz party after basically being kidnapped by Oz and shot at Une. When she was brought by the Romefeller foundation to be a figurehead her response was to completely blow them off and say what she wanted too anyway. Even when she was going to the Libra her response was basically "I'm going to convince my brother to stop fighting and you can really just put all those Guns down because I don't care."

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Logicblade posted:

Relena is just as crazy as the rest of the wing boys, it's great. Wing is a trip that needs to be experienced at least once. Zechs has been pretty useful for me, as most bots with Accel are. I used him as a squad leader early on, and shifted him to a support once I started getting all the Seed and Wing units and had way too many gundams.

My favourite Wing memory is everyone, and this is an EW plot point, everyone thinks that Relena is for Absolute Pacifism because she really hates the war and can't stand to see fighting. And she's really only using it as a tool to gently caress with her enemies, to the point where Noin is hiding the MS Squad in the Sanc Kingdom terrified of breaking Relena's Ideals and Relena is "No makes sense, we need to be able to defend herself." And then goes and smirks at Heero because she can.

Relena is not intimidated by anyone at all. Like... it makes me laugh when people go Relena's an idiot, when she isn't she just doesn't care for anyone's posturing. Heero threatening her that being around him will lead to her death (And let us clarify, the "I'll kill you" he's saying to her, especially at the beginning is "Stay away from me because if you keep hanging around me, you'll die." not literally that he's going to kill her) only excites her. I just loving love Relena because she's got some of the biggest balls in Gundam Wing and no one gives her enough credit.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Logicblade posted:

Didn't Godannar release a hentai because they needed more money for the second season?

Yup

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

AradoBalanga posted:

It makes more sense when you recall that the character designer for Godannar (as well as GaoGaiGar, Gun X Sword, and Code Geass to name a few others) is a hentai artist in his own right, more well known for the Viper series of hentai games produced by the now defunct company Sogna.

To be frank, a lot of artists in both japan and the west got their start doing porn. I mean I think DC recently hired some dickgirl artist. That's just the world we live in, the person who's drawings you like probably also drew something for the spankbank

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
throwing my vote for Michel

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
The worst thing for a villain is Relena isn't afraid of them, they can have the gun to her forehead and there isn't a trace of fear from her. There isn't anyone you can threaten to get at her, because all the people close to her are warriors of some regard, and you can't threaten her because she's aware that if she wasn't needed, that she'd be killed.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
The Destiny Impulse is a better Destiny than the Destiny.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Wait this was Godannar's finale? That was kinda underwhelming. Especially since the other route is doing the Jeeg finale and that's been much cooler.

On the other hand, we get Goh back.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

KaosMachina posted:

I feel like that's a consequence of the types of stories the two are- Godannar is a series as much about interpersonal relationships as it is about 'giant robots punching things' and it's more about the family there coming together than it is about all the big action- the giant robot stuff is more a vehicle for it (pun not intended).

Meanwhile, Jeeg is 120% 'Giant robot action craziness, full stop'. And being a miniseries rather than a full two season show, on top of not having the budget problems that Godannar did, lets them do a LOT more with the stuff going on.

Fun fact that I don't know if it's been mentioned: The team actually put out doujins after season 1 to try to make up the money so they could ACTUALLY do season 2.

E: Didn't Godannar have a bunch of side-character international robots that are a big thing in the show, but apparently due to toy company licenses they can't use in SRW appearances? I remember hearing something about that.

I didn't know if it was a licensing issue, but yes, we don't get a TONNE of Godanner units.

My first introduction to Godanner was this trailer on a preview disc from Newtype USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxqsmH2EmmA

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

maninthesuit posted:

Oh Shinn, he's such a joker.

Also


Not being able to read the actual name they used, I always called her Iczer-4 myself.


I wonder what was up with that eva cut-scene in the beginning though. I never watched the show so I'm at a loss. I know that Eva has a purple one, a red one and a yellow one. So I guess they're hinting at a fourth bot here, but the dialogue said it blew up. It is weird in all kinds of ways. Why wasn't LOTUS made aware of an angel stomping around? Is this supposed to be happening at the same time that they're fighting the scarecrow-angel and not-Iczer?

In the films there was an Eva that got destroyed after a single fight.

And yeah Shinn's line made me laugh, it's nice to see this game and be able to understand it.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Mister Olympus posted:

as a Confirmed Evangelion Fanatic I have a lot of words on this game's treatment of Rebuild that have to be saved for later, but can still even now be summed up with "they did their best, i guess"

Doing Eva at Ls point was not smart if they were going to do Rebuild, they really should have just used the TV Series again

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

HiKaizer posted:

Was 2.0 even out when this came out? I don't think it was from memory which would be kind of...limiting.

It was... but 3.33 wasn't out. So 2.0 ended on a pretty big cliff hanger.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Brunom is in no way understating just how BUSTED Gaiking the Great is. Gaiking the Great makes the SRX blush furiously and the latter DOES come with 3 pilots for its investment.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
So yeah, for those wondering how Eva's plot ends in this game "the other two movies aren't done yet so this is as much as we can adapt safely."

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
This is why you adapt the completed work, not the half completed one. I still think it's a sight better than Z3's handling of 3.33 It all happens off-screen

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Section Z posted:

I find it amusing that Wufei and Trowa have the same goddamned gimmick. But Trowa gets a pass (even in universe) because he's treating it like a punchclock obligation until he inevitably rejoins the team, while Wufei goes full :byodood: with it.

I'm sure Reiji will get a pass because despite all the much worse poo poo he's pulled for operation "I was just testing you all along :pseudo:", never underestimate the difference how annoying you are in the process makes :v:

So like... if I'm understanding correctly. Wufei's been working with the Preventers from the start, but basically just went full HAM in his role?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Until the end of Combattler V's first half (Which coincidentally, is all SRW bothers to adapt AFAIK) the show is worth adapting, We've seen it use parts of it in SRW before, but I don't ever recall seeing the whole thing.

Part 2 becomes very goofy and monster of the weekish. As I said once, my biggest surprise with Combattler V, is how much of an rear end in a top hat Hyouma, Juzo and really the whole team except Chizuru are. Go watch the first episode of Combattler V, Hyouma leads the police on a merry chase while speeding on his motorcycle, and when finally pulled over, just whips out his immunity from the japanese minister I believe. Juzo carries his rifle in the open and does the same despite unnerving the bus he's on.

Hell it's implied the 4 boys only really accepted the job because Chizuru gave them wowzers in their trousers (which is not uncommon for 70's mecha. After all, the Dynamic Pro anime of Getter Robo basically had Michiru as the pilots reasons for even wanting to get in the machines.)

Combattler V is worth watching, if only to learn the origin of the Choudenjii Yo Yo. I think it's like... an episode or two after they get the drunk rear end doctor as their new mentor and someone points out "Hey there's a Yoyo exhibition on the TV" Cut to, I poo poo you loving not, about a minute of live action yo yo footage. It's the most bizarre loving thing.

Onmi fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Nov 1, 2017

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Can't wait. It'll be nice to finally understand what happened in L

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Montegoraon posted:

Durandal... You're not a statesman. You're a geneticist who sometimes pretends to be a CHAR.

I mean he's also very political and dealing with the dudes around him.


Blaze Dragon posted:

Small grammar mistakes here.


But they were, just like they always are! :v:

Also I really like most changes done here because they make Durandal don't come across as a massive rear end in a top hat nor the Destiny cast as wishy-washy and stupid but they really should not have kept the GENESIS shooting down a bunch of ZAFT units and nothing else. With all of the rest of the changes, it...kind of feels horribly out of place. Like they couldn't find any reason to make Yzak and Dearka switch sides.

It also felt like he REALLY didn't need to die. Just decided "Well, I lost, so I'm going to go down with the ship. Thank you for stopping me, sorry I was kind of a dick but not actually all game."

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Why did you make me listen to Ali Project? The gently caress did I do to you Brunom?

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Thanks for the LP Brunom, nice to see the actual plot of this game.

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