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Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

I don't know what exact build my friend is, but he's some sort of "I can summon everything" necromancer. It's hell, I keep panicking and attempting to pull the massive train of mobs off him, only to realise they're his summons, or I find myself trying to kill his stupid skeleton things. I think in dungeons I spend more time trying to kill those than I do the enemy mobs..

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



LightningSquid posted:

I played this around launch but it was sort of a dumpster fire at the time; since it seems to be less bad now, could I get a build that makes Sorcerer as not-bad as it can be? I wanna ride around on a big demon

Sorcerors are pretty poor. Even the summoning buff won't quite bring them up to par. :( Play them for fun, not to be good or useful.

As RazzleDazzleHour said, the best summoner is probably Wiz1Cryo3Sorc1Necro3, but you don't get to ride your demon. Sorc2Necro2 is the next best alternative and let's you have riding. Sorc3 is a trap.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jun 11, 2017

auzuguwu
Oct 30, 2011
hamster riders assemble!

Stool Sample
Nov 8, 2006

EVERYONE Poops!?

Lipstick Apathy
So I made a wizard character. I was thinking my class progression will look like wiz2>cryo3>necro 3, unless I should reset them with one of the scrolls the event gives?
My 'team' name is Meghanlodon (as well as my characters name, still not sure how that works.) How do I apply to the goon guild, and where is out guild tower?

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Stool Sample posted:

So I made a wizard character. I was thinking my class progression will look like wiz2>cryo3>necro 3, unless I should reset them with one of the scrolls the event gives?
My 'team' name is Meghanlodon (as well as my characters name, still not sure how that works.) How do I apply to the goon guild, and where is out guild tower?

That spec is ok. Surespell can be used to make sure that your snowrolling / flesh cannon / flesh strike go off, but that isn't too hard even without surespell. Note: surespell doesn't work if an enemy ability knocks you down or pushes / moves your char.

If you want, you can replace wiz 2 with linker 1 or sorc 1.

Get on discord and yell at Silento until he invites you.

edit: :siren: All of the server downtime compensation stuff in your mailbox expires tonight. So hand it out to your chars. Also the newbie event ends tonight so make your new accounts today if you want the stuff it adds. The stuff won't expire tomorrow :siren:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jun 12, 2017

Souplesse
May 31, 2011

Gentlemoas.
Surespell also only armours you while charging. Mobs can still stuff you in startup frames, which is infuriating when playing Ele.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

btw, those of you who have never escaped your childhood love, this is a thing.

http://playragnarokrestart.com/

Login servers are up and down right now, but should be back up in a bit.

Red Red Blue
Feb 11, 2007



That thing uses a bunch of weird renewal mechanics for some reason

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Yeah It's a weird mishmash of old and new, but it's a lot of fun so far.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1057

Big update went live yesterday that added a lot of stuff including more balance changes, changing the droprate system back to a % chance rather than DPK and fishing.

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
My friend wants to try out this game with me. I like to play support/healy mans. I also noticed this game makes you pay for skill resets. After doing some searching I can't find anything that reliable in terms of a build. Please help me, fellow goons... help me be the Healy Man for my friend

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Poultron posted:

My friend wants to try out this game with me. I like to play support/healy mans. I also noticed this game makes you pay for skill resets. After doing some searching I can't find anything that reliable in terms of a build. Please help me, fellow goons... help me be the Healy Man for my friend

Cleric 2 is the basis for 99% of all cleric specs(and the base of 100% of all good specs). It also provides a lot of healing.

A good base for healing / support would be cleric2 priest3 with all your stats going into spirit.

After that, look at whatever classes interest you and work from there. You found our discord so we can help you out.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Aug 8, 2017

Sacro
Jul 21, 2008

I was somewhere around the middle of page 86 in the Cognitive Dissonance thread when the drugs began to take hold.

only only only only only only
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php

This is a list of the most popular classes in order. Cleric 2 / Priest 3 / Chaplain / Plague Doctor 2 is the cookie cutter cleric/healer support for a reason so if you want to be strong there you go.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c1ee.1a243a5561.1f213f41516493.1145.2a5575

There's some of the skills you want to get, leftover points can go wherever. If you want stone skin max it but otherwise more points in mass heal/revive. If you want magnus exorcismus you'll need at least one point in exorcise. More revive might be useful. The Plague Doctor skills can even be saved for when PD 3 comes out if you want. Gameplay revolves around buffing blessing/sacrament/last rites/aspergillum and then autoattacking or other support stuff as needed. It's one of if not the strongest builds for doing dungeons and leveling up, you do a crazy amount of damage from blessing. You definitely want to dump your stat points into spirit.

You could look at Miko and Taoist or Miko and Inquisitor instead of Plague Doctor if you want. Some people take Oracle but if you're not pvping I would suggest not doing that.

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

:aaa:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1105
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1101
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1082

desudrive
Jan 10, 2010

Destroy All Memes
I'd like to try this again. What are some unique but not incredibly difficult to play classes I can check out? Something with a pet would be cool, or with a lot of mobility skills. Shapeshifting is neat too. I honestly just get confused when reading through all the different builds and I'm just wondering if any vets can help.

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

:bignews: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1116 :bignews:

Looking forward, new classes and ranks will follow a new paradigm. There will be no "Rank 9 classes;" instead, all classes introduced from now going forward will be available to take starting at Rank 8. However, Rank 9+ will still exist, it's just that players will have the ability to take any R8 class starting at R8 without being forced to pick any of the current options. You will also be able to pick multiple R8 classes, of course, just the same as you would pick multiple classes of the same rank (such as Cleric C2 AND Priest) currently. They mention some other stuff in the post that sounds cool, but there aren't many details yet.

It seems that the 4 new classes that will be introduced when this update rolls out are [b]Matador, Bullet Marker (?), Zealot, and Shadowmancer[b], but it's not officially confirmed yet.

HOYPE! :D

YES bread
Jun 16, 2006
lots of Good poo poo in that update sans the real bad Oracle changes. stuff like removing the buff cap is long overdue, I'm looking forward to it

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map
rip rank 10 was cancelled



Have there been any changes to the daily grind since mid-summer? I think that's what ultimately ended up killing me.

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

Hi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2fHarhvGvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDC2yqR9HDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upFY2mO1Qyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bru6e4Pijbs

:chanpop:

Scatsby
Dec 25, 2007

I don't understand how debuffs in this game work. A lot of times they have absurdly high durations, but then they're gone like 10-15 seconds later. Anyone know why that might be?

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?
remov bufflimit REMOV BUFFLIMIT :frogout:

Scatsby
Dec 25, 2007

Groggy nard posted:

remov bufflimit REMOV BUFFLIMIT :frogout:

Do buffs and debuffs count to the same limit?

Cause there's some poison that kills me from half health on one of the maps I'm on, unless it just randomly falls off for no reason.

Edit: also a lot of buffs linger at 0 seconds.

Scatsby fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Oct 20, 2017

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

Groggy nard posted:

remov bufflimit REMOV BUFFLIMIT :frogout:

They are, in the next patch!

Emasculator posted:

Do buffs and debuffs count to the same limit?

Cause there's some poison that kills me from half health on one of the maps I'm on, unless it just randomly falls off for no reason.

Edit: also a lot of buffs linger at 0 seconds.

:iiam:
You can buy antidotes from the general store tho, if you are wary of poison.

Scatsby
Dec 25, 2007

Templar quest makes me be the leader of a party for five minutes. Look buddy just cause i'm playing the guild master class doesn't mean i want to interact with anyone.

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

Hurray! https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1187

Also, rank resets: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1194

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Jesus, this game is still going? How many people are left playing?

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

Nettle Soup posted:

Jesus, this game is still going? How many people are left playing?

IDK, plenty?

Silento
Feb 16, 2012

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



do your best musketeer

FauxLeather
Nov 7, 2016

Um Bongo
Just got to level 90-ish on a new character, only took like two days. Only now starting to encounter bosses that I have to attack more than once to defeat. This balancing is mysterious!

Edit: to clarify I played back at release before dropping it around level 30

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
do your best musketeer

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Only 2 days left on the reset event! Better finalize your builds.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I am giving Tree of Savior a try again. I got to level 20 back when it first launched, but ToS was unbearably horrible at the time. It appears to be a lot better now though.

Silhouette Wires
May 9, 2014

Never Knows Best
I've been enjoying my wizard. Thaum 3. Trying to get to Shadow mancer. Leveling is a lot nicer now that you can buy priest buffs and they last more than a few minutes. Event leveling stuff from the message board is pretty sweet too

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Are mounts for a specific class or can anyone ride them? I saw someone with a red panda mount and I was insanely jealous. :3:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



I said come in! posted:

Are mounts for a specific class or can anyone ride them? I saw someone with a red panda mount and I was insanely jealous. :3:

Some mounts can be used by any classes, like the penguins / rocksodons. But if you aren't a real mounted class, you dismount when you get into combat.

The red panda is not one of those mounts(only real mounted classes can use it) which is too bad because it is cute :(

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 5, 2018

auzuguwu
Oct 30, 2011


Someone decided to share their thoughts on the developer as I was posing with my new cosmetics

Umbreon
May 21, 2011
Does anyone have a decent and up to date newbie guide? This game is pretty vast.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
I got this on release but I'm not gonna lie I bounced off it really hard almost instantly when I realised not only was the grind unreasonable but it also wasn't fun at all. I tried Paladin because I like tanking/buffing melee but it felt really weak and the abilities didn't feel cool to pull off (also the fact that being an MMO rather than an ARPG meant people better at the game cleared areas out before I could even get there).

I'm an avid Diablo 3 player so I'm down with grinds to see numbers go up and get bigger but at least Diablo 3 made you feel powerful even when you were still relatively a baby. Has the game changed this much from release?

Edit: Also on the off-chance Paladin really was just a boring class; what's the current hot-poo poo class that looks cool and lets me murder thousands of rabbits/slimes?

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YES bread
Jun 16, 2006
Pretty much everything in your post has been addressed in one way or another, from the grind being severely lessened to the Paladin class getting an overhaul. I'd say give the game another shot, and if you want to feel strong at low levels just buy some shop buffs.

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