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cheetah7071 posted:It straight up modifies your speed stat. Are you sure? Then why the hell doesn't it just show negative modifiers on your status screen like Steel weapons do? Ugh I really dislike this interface. It seems designed to hide info.
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Zore posted:Are you sure? Then why the hell doesn't it just show negative modifiers on your status screen like Steel weapons do? No I'm not. I assumed you were talking about the negative modifier on your stat screen since my english copy isn't arrive until tomorrow
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cheetah7071 posted:No I'm not. I assumed you were talking about the negative modifier on your stat screen since my english copy isn't arrive until tomorrow I'm talking about how Fire has 3 weight. Kliff has 5 speed and cannot double 4 speed cavaliers. However, they also don't double him. That's why Im making the assumption it just affects your ability to double or they should be doubling him, right?
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Zore posted:I'm talking about how Fire has 3 weight. Kliff has 5 speed and cannot double 4 speed cavaliers. However, they also don't double him. I just booted up my japanese copy and Delthea (23-3 speed from a shield) attacking with fire (3 weight) against an enemy with 9 speed doubles it. If she attacks with Ragnarok (14 weight), she gets doubled. It seems to be a straight speed modification.
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Zore posted:Is Lukas just supposed to be utter garbage? Because so far he seems really garbage. This, but replace Lukas (who actually owns) with Python. I love the dude's appearance and voice lines, but Tobin has a lead in basically every stat.
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May 19, 2017 09:36
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I should've went to a midnight release or something. 50 minutes for one game to download this small is stupid.
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Tae posted:I should've went to a midnight release or something. 50 minutes for one game to download this small is stupid. Lol if you didn't preload a week ago.
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This is super minor and weird but I saw a tumblr post showing that Alm is left-handed and as a left-handed dude this makes me feel a little warm and fuzzy i was going to buy the game anyway but this helps me rationalise the decision
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May 19, 2017 10:21
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cheetah7071 posted:I just booted up my japanese copy and Delthea (23-3 speed from a shield) attacking with fire (3 weight) against an enemy with 9 speed doubles it. If she attacks with Ragnarok (14 weight), she gets doubled. It seems to be a straight speed modification. Since you don't equip spells in Echoes like you would equip items, and thus don't see the speed cut on the status menu, do you just have to keep track of Spd - Wt with brain? Which spell does a Mage counter with (and suffer the Speed penalty for) when attacked, the one last used?
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Just reached the shrine. Make everyone who can be a Merc a Merc, good idea or bad idea? e: gently caress it i'm doing it blizzardvizard fucked around with this message at 14:20 on May 19, 2017 |
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quote:There's no real religion on this; an archer might fight well against one kind of mage, but face certain death against another. I often looked to characters' basic attack stats and how far they could move across a map during each turn to predict how they'd fare in battle, which isn't the most reliable system. More often than not, I crossed my fingers and hoped for the best when I sent characters up against foes. lol what
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Since you don't equip spells in Echoes like you would equip items, and thus don't see the speed cut on the status menu, do you just have to keep track of Spd - Wt with brain? Which spell does a Mage counter with (and suffer the Speed penalty for) when attacked, the one last used? From my experience they always counter with Fire. So if an enemy attacks from 3 tiles away they won't counter with Thunder/Arrow and will just eat it.
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Endorph posted:lol what these people are paid for this
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Endorph posted:lol what lol I was about to ask, "Polygon?" and then I just googled the text you quoted and yes.
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Endorph posted:lol what The rest of the ignorance aside, what on earth does 'There's no real religion on this' even mean in this context?
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I don't quite recall but I do believe that is the same way I played my first Fire Emblems
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Pureauthor posted:The rest of the ignorance aside, what on earth does 'There's no real religion on this' even mean in this context? There's no guiding order or principle - ie they are so bad at games they don't know how to determine if a unit will do well or bad in a fight
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I just started the game. Playing it while sick is about as trippy as I expected it to be. I like crusty old grandpa Mycen and I look forward to making Alm's ragtag bunch of friends into killing machines. (I picked my usual Hard/Casual.) Does the game explain itself well enough? I dimly recall you can promote villagers starting at lv 7 or something and there's no reason to wait to promote ever, unlike in every other Fire Emblem game.
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Cake Attack posted:There's no guiding order or principle - ie they are so bad at games they don't know how to determine if a unit will do well or bad in a fight But the combat forecast is right there...
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To be fair, with the default detailed combat view I couldn't figure out where the accuracy indictor was for a while. But everything else was super easy to figure out. Especially once I switched to simplified (which probably should be the default)
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But the mages have different stats and it's like....what? Why is this mage more dangerous than the last one?
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Silver Falcon posted:Does the game explain itself well enough? I dimly recall you can promote villagers starting at lv 7 or something and there's no reason to wait to promote ever, unlike in every other Fire Emblem game.
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Endorph posted:lol what 6.5 out of 10 huh, that basically means it's complete poo poo to them i wonder what they gave fates (it was an 8.5 what the gently caress polygon)
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i mean i know scores are worthless anyway but at least try to make them have some semblance of sense-making if you're gonna use them.
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Oh nooooo I just found out my circle pad is completely hosed
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Huh. I notice there are some subtle hints that nudge you as to who should promote to what. Alm mentions Tobin training as an archer a time or two, and you can see some arrows stuck in a fence that he shot. There are scorch marks on Mycen's house from Kliff practicing fire magic. According to the OP, Archer Tobin and Mage Kliff are both good options. That's neat!
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It's a callback to FE Gaiden, where those were basically their default classes and mentioned in every strategy guide. Echoes rebalanced things so that they weren't the automatic best options, but they kept those little nods in. It's a cute touch.
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I'm really liking the smaller army size and the slight increase in RPG mechanics with spells and skills. Also loving the lower growth rates making gaining stats feel way more exciting. It really brings back memories of when I first played the gba game.
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Faye's first level up was HP and Luck. Someone really wants to be a Peg Knight, I see! Don't tempt me, game, I'll do it. Don't think I won't!
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(Kliff actually sucks as a mage because he'll have like 1 AS at base)
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Terper posted:(Kliff actually sucks as a mage because he'll have like 1 AS at base)
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Endorph posted:It's a callback to FE Gaiden, where those were basically their default classes and mentioned in every strategy guide. Echoes rebalanced things so that they weren't the automatic best options, but they kept those little nods in. It's a cute touch. Oh yeah, I've already forgotten but didn't Gray come along because he heard the soldiers get paid? (Mercenary.) I like these little nods.
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Sorry I couldn't hear you, I'm too far away, riding on the back of Kliff's mighty steed since he's a Paladin right now
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Silver Falcon posted:Oh yeah, I've already forgotten but didn't Gray come along because he heard the soldiers get paid? (Mercenary.) That was Tobin, Gray, like Alm, wanted to find himself and get something more out of life (girls)
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Thanks Fire Emblem by saying that Normal difficulty is "for new players." I was going to play on Normal but now I can't; I have some dignity after all.
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Terper posted:That was Tobin, Gray, like Alm, wanted to find himself and get something more out of life (girls) Ah ok. My memory isn't the best even when I'm not sick as a dog. Still probably making Gray a mercenary. Kliff's "default" is mage but his outfit looks more like an archer to me. Ditto for Tobin and mage vs. archer. Fashion is an important consideration! nrook posted:Thanks Fire Emblem by saying that Normal difficulty is "for new players." I was going to play on Normal but now I can't; I have some dignity after all. Play on whatever difficulty you want, my dude. The game can't tell you what to do. It's not your real dad.
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Picking this up after work today Cant wait
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Terper posted:That was Tobin, Gray, like Alm, wanted to find himself and get something more out of life (girls) So Archers = Practice Archery, want money Mercenaries = Want Girls
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