|
I didn't bother even trying to kill Jedah. He just spams trash at you, really the hard part is getting Duma in position to die in 1 turn, and Jedah doesn't really get in the way of that too much.
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 23:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 3, 2024 13:46 |
|
|
You should always kill Jedah because he deserves it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2017 23:41
|
|
|
i like the idea of not killing jedah because then he watches duma die and is just 'oh... ohhh...'
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 00:02
|
|
|
He was a bad Dad to my friend Sonya and should die along with his God. Though I dunno what happens if Jedah is still alive when Duma dies, maybe he gets killed anyway. I'm pretty sure he doesn't survive because that would be really weird.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 00:06
|
|
|
He's like 150 years old, so I assumed that Duma's magic was what was sustaining him.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 00:27
|
|
|
A lot of supports in this game sure do start with a character groaning.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 12:00
|
|
|
A lot of supports in this game seem to involve characters being jerks at each other.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 12:13
|
|
|
Kliff x Tobin and Faye x Silke are particularly low effort. Characterization is all over the place with this, deliverance guys are fine but I couldn't tell you what Genny's or Boey's characters even are.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 12:45
|
|
|
Boey is terrified of zombies but is otherwise fairly sensible. He also gets into dumb arguments with Mae a lot. Genny's an aspiring author who's pretty quiet but gets along well with Celica. She's buds with Sonya because they were both abandoned by their families. Base conversations do a lot to flesh out characters in ways outside of the supports. They're real cool and great!
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 12:55
|
|
|
What's the mechanic behind base convos? I kept getting the same ones so just stopped checking after a while.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 12:59
|
|
|
I find Genny's writing hobby really interesting and I'm not even sure why exactly. I wish she has supports or something where she talks about it more.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 13:03
|
|
|
Avalerion posted:What's the mechanic behind base convos? I kept getting the same ones so just stopped checking after a while. Most characters have a new one per act. You can get a base conversation at every town/castle etc and the characters that pop up at each place switch every map (maybe including random encounters as well?). It's a weird system and you'll sometimes get repeats before you've seen everyones but the conversations are often good enough that it's worth checking out towns and such after every map just to see if there's a new conversation available. Though I always waited till i'd completed the maps that stop reinforcements.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 13:06
|
|
|
blizzardvizard posted:I find Genny's writing hobby really interesting and I'm not even sure why exactly. I wish she has supports or something where she talks about it more. Because she writes stories about buff and rough mercenaries making off with priestess girls.
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 14:54
|
|
|
I missed that Sonya was one of Jedah's kids and spent the whole game going "Wait, he had 3 kids, where's the third one" Oops
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 14:57
|
|
|
I can't tell much difference between yuze and sayri
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 15:05
|
|
|
Tae posted:I can't tell much difference between yuze and sayri hair colors hair styles names outfits outfit colors voices classes
|
|
#
?
Jun 23, 2017 15:07
|
|
|
Finally beat this game. It's the 4th (6th?) FE game I've played after Path of Radiance, Awakening, and the Fates games. I remember liking Path of Radiance a lot, but not much else about it. I loved Awakening, mostly disliked the three Fates games. I'd definitely put Echoes above Fates, but way below Awakening. I noticed there seems to be a post-game dungeon. What's up with this? I'm kind of burned out on Echoes, but if you guys think it's worth it, I might give it a shot. I also have The Sacred Stones on my 3DS as an ambassador game. I think this is one of the more well-liked entries, right? Anything I should know about it ahead of time?
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 20:28
|
|
|
Pastrymancy posted:I missed that Sonya was one of Jedah's kids and spent the whole game going "Wait, he had 3 kids, where's the third one" Ooh. I had figured out that Sonya's sisters were now those weird witch sisters running around, but I didn't realize Jedah was their dad! The same dad who dumped them all in the convent? hosed up. Reinanigans posted:
Not really. You should have the basics down. Seth is your early game pre-promote paladin and he's amazing. He's one of the best units in the game, seriously.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 20:39
|
|
|
Seth is in the running for best Fire Emblem character (relative to enemy strength) in the series. Only FE9 Titania and Robin really give him a run for his money.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 20:41
|
|
|
FE5 Sety? Though I guess you might have rolled availability into your rankings.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 20:55
|
|
|
cheetah7071 posted:Seth is in the running for best Fire Emblem character (relative to enemy strength) in the series. Only FE9 Titania and Robin really give him a run for his money.
|
|
#
?
Jun 26, 2017 21:03
|
|
|
Endorph posted:Kinda. Whichever army you do the dlc with gets them, but the characters come in duos and can't be separated. So Emma and Randal and Yuzu and Shade. You could give Alm E & R and Celica Y & S, but you couldn't give Alm E & S. Do either of the duos have support conversations with people not in their pair?
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 03:48
|
|
|
Endorph posted:dagda. it helps that he's actually in a hard game. I will concede that Dagda owns the enemies just as hard, though due to lower movement, (slightly) lower availability, and general map design making it harder to solo, he definitely carries less hard than Seth does.
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 03:50
|
|
|
Prism posted:Do either of the duos have support conversations with people not in their pair? Nope. They're good supports though, longer than the norm for this game (so average support length for other FEs). I've also just beaten the game. It ranks pretty highly for me, and the brevity means I'm keen to replay it a lot sooner than I usually want to replay an FE. Maybe a Blitzkrieg run? Also downloaded the Cipher characters since I started late and they came out when I was midway through Act 3. Which is pretty good timing in terms of power, they slotted into my party nicely. Gave Randal/Emma to Celica and Shade/Yuzu to Alm. Still haven't decided if the other way around would be better (Emma was great for even more Pegasus murder but Randal hated the deserts and swamps). Overall a good game though. Refreshingly fuckin weird FE. Whoever said it plays more like an FF Tactics game was spot on.
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 08:22
|
|
|
Sudden Javelin posted:Nope. They're good supports though, longer than the norm for this game (so average support length for other FEs). After trudging through all three Fates game after playing Awakening to death, Echoes is such a nice reprise. The mechanics are simple and straightforward, and unique enough to stand out from the other 3DS games without seeming overly simplistic or alien to the rest of the series. I hope they retain some of the features in this for future games, especially the turnwheel, because it's so, so nice when a majority of what warrants a reset is usually a bad combat roll or a dumb misclick. And oddly enough despite having about a quarter of the characterization of a character from the other two 3DS games, I like the characters in Echoes a lot more, if only because it's a treat whenever a character decides to start talking to somebody and they don't have any painfully stupid moments like the pickle man in Fates (even if that was because of the translators). I don't think there's a single character I dislike in Echoes. Even Nomah, who's incompetent in a charming, bumbling-old-man kind of way. Also why are you just sitting in a sewer, Nomah?
|
|
#
?
Jun 27, 2017 08:42
|
|
|
Is it safe for me to sell my wine and ale to the blacksmith, or am I going to need it later for a quest? I already did the Ram Wine quest.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 16:25
|
|
|
hostess with the Moltres posted:Is it safe for me to sell my wine and ale to the blacksmith, or am I going to need it later for a quest? I already did the Ram Wine quest. Yes. Also sell the Exotic Spice because it gives like 3 gold.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 16:28
|
|
|
hostess with the Moltres posted:Is it safe for me to sell my wine and ale to the blacksmith, or am I going to need it later for a quest? I already did the Ram Wine quest. Alcohol doesn't have any purpose besides being sold since your units can't even drink it if they wanted to.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 16:30
|
|
|
Alcohol can restore Turnwheel uses in Dungeons but it's almost never going to be particularly needed.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 16:36
|
|
|
Technically alcohol can be offered to Mila Statues in dungeons to restore your Turnwheel uses, but you pretty much never need to do that at any point in the game. The final dungeon might burn through your Turnwheel but even then you'd only need a couple of Leftover Ales, at most.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
yeah, keep a couple of drinks for the final dungeon since it has like three boss fights and its easy to wander into the final battle without any turnwheel uses.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 16:43
|
|
|
And here I didn't even realize there was a Mila idol in Thabes, haha. e: oh I guess you guys mean the story final dungeon Strange Quark fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jun 30, 2017 |
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2017 18:10
|
|
|
I never realized until now but you can switch between Celica and Alm in the post game with L on the map screen. That's neat. Celica and Alm also both have unique dialogue when you take them into the examine screens of maps that are otherwise exclusive to their counterpart, too.
|
|
#
?
Jul 1, 2017 00:28
|
|
|
I'm stuck on the Jamil chapter with Celica (that labyrint map with the earthquake casting dude) - anyone got a strategy for this one other than grind more?
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2017 07:30
|
|
|
Avalerion posted:I'm stuck on the Jamil chapter with Celica (that labyrint map with the earthquake casting dude) - anyone got a strategy for this one other than grind more? What's your team look like? There's some pretty useful tools your mages and clerics can pick up, but I'd need to know what you have before I can advise better.
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2017 09:20
|
|
|
chiasaur11 posted:What's your team look like? I got a mage ring and grimoire ring if that's what you mean? Dunno who to give them to, Boey already knows Saggitae, Celica picked up ragnarok, I went with Sonya but the best she can do so far is excalibur, Mae knows aura. Also got Atlas as a bow knight with killer bow - I've been trying to have him snipe the boss, this works sometime but he then dies on the next turn.  Everyone but Conrad is in their final class already.
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2017 09:28
|
|
|
if you have like, a lot of trouble with earthquake, silque (i think it was her) learns fortify at a later level. probably takes some grinding and tbh you don't need it but if you really really have trouble she's there
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2017 19:34
|
|
|
Looks like that's Tatiana, but this is on Celica's route anyway. Probably should have made Atlas a mage so he'd get rescue, but too late for that too.
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2017 20:20
|
|
|
Avalerion posted:I'm stuck on the Jamil chapter with Celica (that labyrint map with the earthquake casting dude) - anyone got a strategy for this one other than grind more? Personally I set up a wall of my melee units in front of the fortification, sent in summons to draw out the enemies slowly and used healers in a second line to keep units healed up after each earthquake. After the dread fighters were gone I used Mae+Mage ring to take out the enemies from long distance, usually sending in a dread fighter to draw the enemy Barons and Mages into a position where Mae could take them out safely. Setting up your melee units in a wall formation should make it so that everyone can only be attacked by one gargoyle, which should make this fairly safe.
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2017 22:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 3, 2024 13:46 |
|
|
Great - just bidding my time outside the labyrinth eventually worked. Had no turnwheel uses left so that last turn had me crossing fingers but I got lucky, finally.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2017 10:59
|
|