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Zore posted:I don't even know what the world is coming to when I can't make two fire emblems kiss and get a two sentence blurb in the epilogue about how they lived together happily forever. There's still sort of that in the endings.
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A lot of the negative aspects of the reviews are the same things everyone else complained about: Bad maps, long tedious maps, lack of variety in maps, and the dungeon crawling is really underutilized. Basically anything Echoes is carrying its weight, anything OG Gaiden is what's bringing it down.
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May 16, 2017 17:45
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Avalerion posted:No weapon triangle, guess that means you just whack away with the strongest thing you got? There's no axes at all, so terrain is king because stuff like Tombs give +60 avoid (but magic negates terrain). And things generally die much, much slower. In most other FE games, you end a fight at 2 fights maximum. Echoes is more like 2 minimum outside of specific situations.
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May 16, 2017 17:50
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I would heavily recommend SoV if being different is the thing you're looking for and you never played Gaiden before.
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May 16, 2017 19:47
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If you make Silque the only healer, how exactly does she replenish her health? Nosferatu prayer?
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May 17, 2017 01:23
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I thought Boey and Mae was pretty clear
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May 18, 2017 04:20
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Has the English script been leaked then? I remember hearing a few of the supports have started showing up online, but is enough of the full script out there to be talking about overall translation quality. The entire game is online already.
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May 18, 2017 05:04
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I'm confused, is Mae and Boey really unrequited or was this changed from the japanese?
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May 18, 2017 05:09
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Seems like the Cipher dlc characters will have conversations with themselves and some bonus items. Still no clarification if it's an Anna thing or not.
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May 18, 2017 17:15
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marshmallow creep posted:Do Kliff and Faye have supports with anyone on Celica's side? Is there a good reason to have her get them besides doing it for the sake of it? I mean, she apparently has her share of peg knights and mercenaries, so I guess they could be her cavaliers? No, supports in general is really tiny compared to most games. Alm and Clair: Alm and Mycen: Alm and Faye: Lukas and Clive: Gray and Tobin: Gray and Clair: Tobin and Kliff: Silque and Faye Clair and Delthea: Clive and Mathilda: Forsyth and Python: Luthier and Delthea: Tatiana and Zeke: Celica and Mae: Celica and Atlas: Celica and Nomah: Celica and Conrad: Mae and Boey: Genny and Sonya: Saber and Jesse: Jesse and Deen: Valbar and Leon: Kamui and Leon: Palla and Catria: Palla and Est: Catria and Est:
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May 18, 2017 19:41
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More details on the Cipher DLC: https://serenesforest.net/2017/05/18/echoes-details-cipher-collab-character-introductions/ They're battle maps, you get two characters per DLC (4 bucks each, 8 total), and they have supports+Base conversations with each other. Also exclusive spells and items.
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May 18, 2017 20:32
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Retcon posted:These battle animations are so smooth, wow. Love how your units are going into battle with a running start. 
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May 18, 2017 20:45
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May 19, 2017 02:19
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I should've went to a midnight release or something. 50 minutes for one game to download this small is stupid.
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May 19, 2017 09:37
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Oh nooooo I just found out my circle pad is completely hosed
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May 19, 2017 16:11
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Who did you give the +3 speed to?
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May 19, 2017 19:15
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My Kliff got +3 speed via levels, so I felt like that was a waste. I ended up giving it to Tobin because him only hitting once is really mediocre. These weapon skills seem stupidly cheap for how powerful they are. Straight up +5 might and 10 hit for 1 HP? Why not.
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May 19, 2017 19:34
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My Faye is currently a Nosferatu tank with the leather shield
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May 19, 2017 20:00
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Oh my god, leveling Clair up is so painful. She does like 1 damage.
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May 19, 2017 20:13
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I just met Clive and I already have a Knight, Sniper, and Myrmidon. If anything, it's too fast.
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May 19, 2017 20:40
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The Cipher DLC could be good, but in general just wait for a sale. These new deliverance guys kinda suck. I guess Python is okay if you never have a sniper?
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May 19, 2017 20:56
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Booky posted:I'm eyeing the Cipher DLC, tbh. Promotion in Echoes/Gaiden is that units automatically get brought up to the base level I.E. if Lukas has 6 defense when he promotes to Knight, he automatically gets raised to the Knight's base defense which is higher. The exception apparently is Alm/Celica.
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May 19, 2017 21:00
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Booky posted:Ohhh, ok. Thanks for the help, everyone! They still get the indicator just like villagers I.E. I got Tobin the "He is now ready to be a sniper!" message. Also there's a marker over their name or something as a constant reminder.
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May 19, 2017 21:03
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I regret not giving the +3 speed to Faye because with the leather shield, she's my 2nd best defensive unit. It's basically Awakening again.
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May 19, 2017 21:13
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Kilff is too useful because he's the only one hitting 95% while everyone else is struggling to hit 70.
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May 19, 2017 22:32
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I kinda feel like the levin sword is wasted on Alm since it's flat damage and he has ridiculously high strength. But my only other sword user is Tobin who gets free attacks with the iron sword.
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May 19, 2017 22:39
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First battle against a Cantor. 1st 10 minutes: oh poo poo oh poo poo oh poo poo he one-shots almost everyone "genny learns Invoke" Well then
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May 20, 2017 03:25
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I beat the necro dragon and got a blessed ring. Genny has infinite invoke
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May 20, 2017 05:21
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Some of the recruits require backtracking. I've seen a lot of people miss out on the whitewings.
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May 20, 2017 05:50
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Man, they do not want you to backtrack in chapter 3. Got annihilated by Gargoyles when I wanted to promote Python and Clive when I tried to go to the Thieve's cave. They double everyone and even Alm could barely scratch them.
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May 20, 2017 14:51
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Are you playing on normal?
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May 20, 2017 16:29
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The Dragons double everyone on Hard, otherwise I would just box it in without problem.
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May 20, 2017 16:38
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I think I need to start grinding. Midway through chapter 3 is kicking my rear end because if there's 3+ gargoyles, I'm dead.
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May 20, 2017 17:25
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I'm talking about Alm's team.
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May 20, 2017 17:34
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Zore posted:I have Kliff (mage), Alm and Grey (Levin sword) who can all one round them, 2 knight who can completely tank them and most of the rest of the team can chip one down. If Faye gets a little lucky she can one round them as well with Nosferatu. They only have 10 speed, right? Are you playing on normal, because the gargoyles range from 12-15 speed. My fastest unit is Clair as a Falco Knight at 14 speed
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May 20, 2017 17:43
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Zore posted:Im playing on Hard, but I haven't hit that tier of gargoyle yet I guess. Im in chapter 3 but I've mostly done Celica's stuff. Yeah my kliff has 9 speed. Alm has 10. Gray is my fastest at 16 but currently at 13 because he's got the lightning sword.
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May 20, 2017 18:00
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Turns out there's an auto-level fountain at the end of this dungeon. I leveled Kliff, Faye, and Seliph to promotion and now Gargoyles aren't a problem. My units must godawful though if it weren't for Gaiden's promotion system.
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May 20, 2017 18:10
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Zore posted:The worst part of this game is how tedious the random encounters are, holy poo poo. Especially the ones that spawn on the overworld, they're just the same goddamn thing over and over. Eh, if the game didn't have extra EXP after every battle and skill learning, I would be more annoyed. Extra Tasty posted:I would love if Python could hit something. I think that would be cool and good. Python seems to be by far the worst unit on the team. He's slow, inaccurate, and generally doesn't have the stats to survive hits partly because he gets doubled by everything.
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May 20, 2017 20:21
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blizzardvizard posted:Python is awful but Forsyth is a strong contender as well Forsyth is at worst a knight that can soak up damage and do formation in a game of open maps. Also, mine turned out similar to Lukas so just slap shields on them and let them be decoys.
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Endorph posted:they own extremely hard, actually You're leaving out the detail that Mae does a super low voice for "Let's go!"
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