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Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

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Endorph posted:

every single character in the game has some kind of unrequited love

*ears perk up*

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Oct 15, 2012

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Cake Attack posted:

I've thought about it and cheetah is 100% right in this and all arguments

Lol

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Oct 15, 2012

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This Lightning Sword seems kinda really broken.

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Tae posted:

I should've went to a midnight release or something. 50 minutes for one game to download this small is stupid.

Lol if you didn't preload a week ago.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Zore posted:

Wait the fountains are 3 boosts apiece?

:negative:

I have never felt a deeper connection with a post.

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Oct 15, 2012

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If you try to attack someone over stairs at range, you can get angles where you can't see the enemy at all, and your attack just clips through, which is kinda lol.

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Oct 15, 2012

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If the spells have fixed accuracy, does that mean boosting skill is useless for mages/clerics?

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Oct 15, 2012

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Is it a spoiler if it's obvious

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Oct 15, 2012

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ungulateman posted:

also i decided i have another criticism: characters saying dumb things when you get 1-stat level ups when 1-stat level ups are the norm and to be expected, unlike in awakening/fates


give him an actual sword

Yeah why can't these people be happy with mediocrity

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Oct 15, 2012

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Pastrymancy posted:

What's the difference between using the wheel and restarting?

Also my lukas and Clair won't gain support points when they're next to each other. Am I missing something?

You get a limited number of uses with the wheel, so while you could roll it all the way to the beginning, it'd be kinda a waste unless you didn't save or something like in a dungeon map.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Vernatio posted:

Is there any sort of reward or medal for never using the wheel to reset time? I think it's a real cop-out, but I'm also looking at losing half an hour of gameplay to an unlucky crit, so I might use it if there's no "penalty".

I only ask because I know there's medals for at least one challenge type thing.

There's just medals for beating the game on hard and on classic, and there's a medal for using the wheel so.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Yeah there was that too. Here's the full list: https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/miscellaneous/medals/

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Oct 15, 2012

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ChrisBTY posted:

Alright something that is mildly irking me on an early subquest (chapter 3).

The dude is the Zofia treasury wanting a Mila Charm from the undead in a graveyard. Does he just mean for me to go back to the Deliverance HQ and murder things until the Charm (or whatever it's called) drops?

I'm pretty sure I got mine from a chest in some back room area in the dungeon area.

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Oct 15, 2012

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I haven't touched the shadow sword because I'm afraid of what curse does.

What does curse do

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Endorph posted:

luck -10

Wow that's basically nothing.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Zore posted:

Sometimes when you attack it damages you instead. Its just a devil weapon by another name.

Like I used it to drag Jesse through his poo poo phase, but just spend 50 silver and you can make it into a Brave Sword (which is not a brave sword in the fire emblem sense, no double attacking. More like a killer sword)

Yeah I don't think I want to touch that, lol. So it's like forging a rusted weapon then?

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

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Python is really good on the cantor maps for me because I have no other archer and I don't want to engage them where they can hit back.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Man, I wish the game told me I just needed one forge to evolve weapons from like iron to steel, because forging higher just all goes to waste once you change the weapon.

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Oct 15, 2012

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I have a powerful urge to make all the villagers archers in my second playthrough.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Silver Falcon posted:

OK, I will try that. I was afraid to even get her in range of Archer Hell to summon her dudes because they would definitely kill her dead, but if they're dumb enough to ignore even the squishy cleric in favor of the cannon fodder, then bring it on!


Er wait, what? How's this work? You forge a thing only once and you can upgrade/(evolve?) it right away? Celica's starting dagger takes a gold mark for the last upgrade, which I don't have, but I could have done that after just one forge?

Once you forge something at least to the first level, another row will appear at the bottom as ???????? and that's the evolution thing, separate from how high you forge the weapon. I don't think it's available for every weapon, but it is for most at least.

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Oct 15, 2012

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I'm glad Mizar is still getting work.

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Oct 15, 2012

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It's kinda silly Nuibaba needed to lure Alm out when just a map ago Lukas was all gung-ho about telling Alm to fight her to get the support of the people.

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Oct 15, 2012

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I finished the game and Python turned out to be my best unit, which was probably because archers and mages really loved targeting him for some reason and the killer bow is sick.

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Oct 15, 2012

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How are you supposed to deal with the encounters in the eighth floor of Thabes? Getting 1-2 fire dragons per encounter beefier than the earlier mini boss seems like an insane jump to me.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Apparently you can fight the final map again in the postgame if you go to the Duma Temple altar, but it doesn't tell you beforehand that's what happens and it doesn't let you exit the map, so it's kind of a pain if you hadn't saved in a while.

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Oct 15, 2012

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I'm surprised people came away from the game complaining about the deserts, after I saw the swamps.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Witches were never an issue for me because they had the defenses of wet tissue paper and for some reason would preferentially go after my archers or mages.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Tae posted:

The AI of witches is to attack the edges of your army. So you probably left your tanks inside your "circle" of characters.

That would make sense. Though I never really sent anyone out to "tank" magic. It was so much easier just to snipe kill whatever was in range.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Hunt11 posted:

Killing Deen gives you earlier access to the brave sword so for that alone he has to die.

Edit: The happy send off that Berkut got I found too much, but I did like what they did with Fernand.

I don't think anyone else sees Rinea so it came off like a dying fever dream to me.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Last Celebration posted:

Luck is still effectively Dodge, so give it to anyone dealing with caster with Excalibur or Brave Sword guys I guess? It's not really something I use frequently in any case.

You can't really dodge Excalibur.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Heaven Spacey posted:

Spell accuracy is fixed I think? Or is that only for the player?

It is, and also I don't think any enemy units even have Excalibur.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Last Celebration posted:

Dodge, not Avoid. You know, Crit Evasion?

You should say that then!!

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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Dont I need gold marks for that?

The bows have two forge paths, and the gold marks get you a different weapon, so you don't want that.

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Oct 15, 2012

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irlZaphod posted:

From the Order screen, do you mean? I didn't realise you could, I ended up re-ordering to do it.

It's just strange to me that when you enter a normal Skirmish on the map you have the option of a Unit Select screen, but you don't ever need to not bring any units since it lets you deploy everyone. But you don't get the Unit Select screen option when you enter a dungeon.

e: Is there any way to tell what bonuses characters get from Supports, or do I just need to look it up? As far as I can see, Clair gets a big Crit boost from Alm. I wish it showed when the battle screen opened like in previous games.

Pretty sure the bonus is in orange in the full stats view.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Tired Moritz posted:

there's dlc supports...? why

The dlc supports are the dlc characters with each other, so it's not like you're missing terribly much.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Endorph posted:

the deliverance dlc adds

lukas x python
lukas x forsyth
clair x mathilda
clive x forsyth
clive x python

Oh lol

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

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Man, I can't remember any infinite range attack at all, unless we're taking about Upheaval?

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Oct 15, 2012

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Oops, I 2RKO'd the boss of Thabes.



Hunter's Volley got three crits in a row, and well. :v:

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Oct 15, 2012

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I dunno why anyone would want to use the demon ring they give you for this. Hell, anything less than a third mage ring would probably be disappointing.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Avalerion posted:

I'm liking this so far, figured with so many mechanics gone the game would be rather simplistic but it actually makes me worry more about positioning than just wreck through everything with pairups. Too bad supports so far have been crap, would rather have more/better even if it meant no voice acting. Though I'm enjoying the story and characters otherwise.

How much did I screw up by not getting a dracoshield of some general dude?

I never got the dracoshield and the game was perfectly manageable on hard. You don't even need it for the post game dungeon.

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