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Golden Goat posted:I figure you just used all of whatever's available. So all black mages at the Water Crystal when you unlock it, Samurai comes later. This is how I always did it.
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Eh, at least it's portable and doesn't have the mechanics changes of the mobile versions. GBA > SFami > PSX > mobile imo
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Quadzerk. Have fun with the sandworm! Probably going to do a few this year but with my baby not going towards last years' 30 TCs. Also #chaos for life.
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Yeah, and when I run multiple runs I get to that point (while grinding to level 10 in the wind temple in case I get something like WM or Thief first) while my previous run is being approved.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What is the absolute worst party you could get and still pull a Triple Crown? The worst Triple Crown run I did was the one where I couldn't stunlock Omega and relied on Red Mage Thundara for damage [just looked it up, Sam Nin Sam Rdm] . Trident jump is up there as well. A Bard with the rest of the party being pulled from Bard, Thief, Geo would be technically guaranteed but such a pain in the rear end. derra fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Serene Dragon posted:Probably not the worst team, but my personal worst was beating Omega with samurai/thief/white/monk. I had to get up to level 58 to do it. 58 seems ... really low to beat him with this party. Um, might I ask how you did it?
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dis astranagant posted:barehanded/katana crit fishing + 2 healbots. Shell cuts down on a lot of his bullshit. Through 95% evasion? You can't raise level to make those crits do significant damage either.
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W.T. Fits posted:Critical hits double your attack and ignore the target's defense. I ... am aware? I'm the crazy guy who was mentioned in the infographic for 30 TCs last year. The thought of inputting 80 attack commands on average to scratch Omega makes me skeptical 99 elixirs would last long enough, even with !White, especially in the 50's. Can't use reflect because Atomic Ray would fullheal that level of damage output.
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It's completely possible, but it's a random proc and if you don't silence him he will retaliate with Return. Not a very reliable strat but it can work if your damage is very high so you only need a few procs in a row to win.
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Pre-Karnak wasn't bad, per se, but it was satisfying getting the Beastmaster (and a  ) and start butchering bosses.
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Highly recommend that Mega64's boss site gets added to the OP - it's an amazing resource. https://sites.google.com/site/mega64sa/ff5/ff5-boss-guide
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Use VBA-M. https://twitter.com/D_Amagai/status/873405855626141696 You'd think by now I could screenshot Shinryu all the time.
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Mikl is donating for everyone who does a run with The Run party prior to the start of the fiesta.
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I am hella PEEVED posted:White Mage is the only reason this team isn't true hell. Its a slow, but survivable fiesta run. Dragoon means you can jump over any telegraphed/on death attacks that will wipe you, White allows you to sandbag anything that won't one hit you. !White is very powerful and easy to use, but !Catch is definitely up there as well and could similarly carry the party by itself. It would just take more grinding to get 3 !Catch users in a reasonable amount of time (I mastered the class for one person in Bal Castle and another finished just in time for Neo-Exdeath so I had 3 9999 hits there) and to catch a few enemies. In addition, if you didn't have !White, you easily may have one of the other powerful classes to carry you (!Blue, !Black, !Time, !Summon, !Mix, !Sing, etc.). Dragoon is definitely the dead weight for me this run, they don't bring much unless you farm a Dragon Lance to help against Shinryu and NEO (I did not). Ended up being a !White / !Catch / Item bot. One Zerk is a fine addition to most parties, it's only when you have 2 or more and start losing access to multiple party members do they really become a liability (plus I think Krile blocked every Algamest tossed her way, way to go girl!).
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4 digits of HP /envy. Poor Lenna in my game could Shell up others to survive Almagest, but didn't have enough HP herself. Well, my thought was "just in case I screwed something up, I'd like someone in the air when the Meteos fall". Agreed that !Catch isn't necessary for this group and !White is generally faster, I think I only heavily leaned on it for Byblos, Sandworm, W2 Exdeath and NED. In a speed run its not the best choice, but I don't approach the game from that perspective. And I didn't grind too much to get 2 catchers at W2 Exdeath (200 ap of gold needles) and no additional grinding for 3 at NED, Faris mastered the class just as we approached. My point though is that you could have a party of, say, Thief x3 and Beastmaster and you could do just fine, which means I consider it a strong skillset (tiresome Omega kill though). There's probably less than 5 fights in the entire game that 4 Releases doesn't trivialize.
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Chaos forever. Krile also inherits Galuf's capture. You can check it in the status menu, on GBA at least.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Good lord that Soul Cannon fight sucked rear end. Thought I would be clever and release a Zuu to cut a huge chunk of his health, but it didn't do anything. Whoops. Damage in this game is based on the difference between your attack and the enemies defense (how hard you hit per swing), multiplied by a value dependent on your strength and level (how many times you swing per command). Knives such as the Guardian Dagger can also have additional swings based upon your agility. I say can because there's a bug in there which means you only benefit sometimes. In addition, axes (& hammers) randomly hit between 50% and 100% for their attack value, so there's a large variant in their damage. Soul Cannon has a low defense (5), so the defense reduction ability of axes / hammers doesn't contribute much. A combination of these factors could lead to your dagger user being more effective in the fight. Did you get a Death Sickle? Please please please make sure to get a Death Sickle if you haven't farmed one yet. derra fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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Also the deadly jailgamesh! Adamantoise (and it NOT overkill, there is no boss in the game I hate more, try fighting him with bards only gently caress ADAMANTOISE)
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dis astranagant posted:Omega is technically possible but not loving happening. Trident, Axes, and !Calm means this isn't a particularly difficult Omega kill, though. I trivially 1-shot him (and Shinryu) on my way down with very little extra preparation needed (buy a Trident, put !Calm on some people).
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Sage Grimm posted:Got stuck on Purobolos for a bit, decided to catch D.Chimera for Aqua Rake and then realized I couldn't fire off more than one because !Catch is buried in the Beastmaster job. So I just sort of Jumped and Raised enough times to survive the Self-Destructs, which was faster and I should have done that the first time through! You can !Control them and have them self destruct on themselves, which doesn't trigger the Arise counter.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Wanted to see if I could try Omega, but uhm, does the Tame thing only work in the GBA version or something? It doesn't appear to do anything to him on SNES, and if that doesn't work I'm not sure how this fight would be possible. Yeah it was a bug introduced in the GBA version. Don't try Omega on SFami FFV with this party.
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That being said, Omega isn't *impossible* with this party. I've done similar Fiestas before. Bring Elixirs and levels. More levels = more damage, increased resistance to Encircle and an HP buffer for some attacks. Elixirs because you will need HP & MP. Your primary source of damage is going to be the Dragoon, Jumping with a Trident equipped. Jumps always hit (getting past Omega's 95% evasion) and the electric element of the Trident penetrates Omega's 190 defense. I *believe* Yellow Dragons should still do 9999 per !Release, right? Never done it myself but nothing is stopping that. Not enough to kill but takes off 40% of his HP. Setup would be (with key equipment): Dragoon w/ !White Trident Aegis Shield Genji Armor (Gives confuse immunity, steal from Necrophobe Gilgamesh with the Thief Knife) Hermes Sandals WM with !Catch (Yellow Dragon) Lamia Tiara (Bought in Phantom Village, immunity to confuse) Hermes Sandals Beastmaster with !White (Yellow Dragon) No way for confuse immunity (well, the Bone Mail works, but seeing as you're reliant on !White...) Some weak weapon, like a Knife or Dagger, in case you get confused so you deal 0 damage Hermes Sandals Berserker with whutever: Any Dagger (You do NOT want your Berserker dealing damage, which they will do with a sufficiently strong Axe. Omega will counter and will likely screw you). Aegis Shield Whatever Berserkers are naturally confuse-immune, so that's good. Hopefully they can soak or block some of Omega's attacks. Confusing some cats to get your party floating pre-fight is highly recommended. Keep everyone above 50% health and shelled up. Keep the Beastmaster from being confused. I'd release the dragons once he drops below 20k hp. Otherwise, it's a slow and steady burn, attacking when you can. It may be better to have Catch on the Dragoon as well. This is *not* a guaranteed kill setup. You will die a lot. Instantly, in many cases. It will take a large portion of luck as well as learning when it is safe to attack Omega (and the Jump delay makes this even harder). But a win is possible. derra fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Schwarzwald posted:Haste shoes are probably the best in general, but the elemental rings and angel rings are better in specific fights or to cover weaknesses in party composition. Most parties with a Black Mage can just wipe everything off the map. Please, if you are new to the Fiesta, at least ask before grinding up that cash.
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Sexy Archaeoavis kill by elmagus.
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Blue Chemist Berserker Mystic, W1 down. Whelp this will be easy.
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Rudicron posted:Very well. Quoting this for my reference. Might want to add this to the OP as well. This Exdeath is level 63.
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Rudicron posted:Very well. First time making a .gif. Am I doing this right? https://twitter.com/D_Amagai/status/876440120492261376
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Have a BASCH! https://twitter.com/D_Amagai/status/876493522748280832
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Austere things posted:Ok, so I have what is probably a pretty dumb question about my Pure Chaos run, but I'm not entirely sure how to go forward with this. All zerks.
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Steal hi potions. Use hammers/axes. Do you have to use 2 thieves? Otherwise just level or throw attempts at him until it sticks. I guess the solo thief strat can work, too. Come in with elixirs and 99 pots / hi pots. Living thief, 3 dead party members. Defend and heal until Byblos runs out of mana (this takes a LONG time). Res up and kill him. derra fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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rundxdi posted:Gettin worried about having nothing but time mages until the earth crystal... mostly archaeoavis since rods rods rods for everything else (once I have the patience to get some gil) Make sure to get the Main Gauche, but Haste, Slow, Regen and the Healing Staff will see you through pretty trivially.
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Supremezero posted:Eh. The only real thing Turtle Shell's do for you with White around is Haste. His W2 offense is bleh. Most fights can be worked around, but having a couple for Drain Kissing W2 Exdeath couldn't hurt.
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Rather than Split Shelling prototypes, is there a good way for non Beastmasters to get Dark Matter? There's 6 targets worth Death potioning in W2: Dragon Pod, Boatgamesh, Crystals. !Red and !Gaia should be sufficient on Dragon Pod for a slow but steady kill. Likewise, two of the four crystals are nullified or actually beneficial with more plentiful mixes (Resist Fire or Dragon Shield, Levisalve). I can see an argument for 3 Dark matter but would only use two myself (and you get 2 Dark Matter story wise by the time you need them): kill Boatgamesh and either the wind or water crystal. For the rest of the crystals, kill off water, everyone starts in the back, protect / shell / Levisalve / Resist Fire, get fire to critical so it heals you every turn, plink down the other crystals before finishing fire.
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Reflect Ring on zombie, another character hides until Shinryu kills himself. Yes, it takes a while. I see a knight but can't ID Krile; what class is she? If it's dragoon get a Dragon Lance and have that person spam jump to knock off as much HP before they go down. Between that and a few Apollo hits a win shouldn't take too long. Heck you probably don't need Zombies. Have your Bard dodge the first Tidal Wave with Hide (or jump?). Dragoon jumps. Ranger Rapid-fire with CK then dies. Knight can Equip Lance a Dragon Lance as well for a hit. Takes some luck but you have incredible damage potential. derra fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Focacciasaurus_Rex posted:So, basically what I'm hearing is, if I don't have a whitemage for berserk, a bard for love song, or a chemist for !Mix shenanigans, Shinryu and Omega aren't really doable with a lot of fiesta team compositions? I have 51 consecutive Triple Crown fiesta runs, and all but 3 have been chaos (so repeats possible). Several of those were painful (Red Mage as your damage source without locking Omega down ugh) and there are certainly parties that can't kill Omega in particular, but insanity goes a long way. What's your party Focacc? derra fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Bufuman posted:Yeah, Gilgamesh 1 is vulnerable to a surprising amount of things (almost certainly because the devs didn't want you to be screwed if Galuf had all your weak link classes). My personal favorite is still Mini. My favorite is Gravity. He has a lot of HP so that you don't kill him before his flee script kicks in. Gravity (and other percentile stuff) one shots him.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:When is the first time you can buy hi-potions? Not having any healing except for regular ol' potions and elixirs is such a pain, 50 hp at a time ain't cutting it. World 2.
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a butt is victorious https://twitter.com/D_Amagai/status/877002133358489601
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Kyrosiris posted:Nah, unfortunately they do. He will react to your zero-damage punches with his 9999 damage Strong Fights and laugh hysterically. Get to him with as many blind axe and zombies zerks as possible?
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FreeKillB posted:Omegachat: Beyond stop shenanigans with bard or GBA beastmaster, there are a couple of paths that people haven't mentioned. A couple classes stand out as useful/unbelievably broken: The Black Mage bit isn't quite true. Omega will counter reflected damage. What he won't counter is if not ALL the damage done hits him. If you target Thundaga on your party with all 4 people reflected, he will get hit with 4 bolts and counter you. If you only have 3 people reflected, however, one of your party members will get hit too, and Omega will NOT counter. Note that it is on hit, not target. If the poor sap in your party without Reflect has an Aegis Shield and blocks their bolt, Omega WILL counter. You can use diamond equipment to help resist the damage, though. For most parties on both of these bosses Hermes Sandals are the accessories of choice, even if it means wiping to Atomic Ray immediately several times.
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