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Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Trump and his son are too, hope you love them as much

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Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Wait this whole time I've been trying to have a debate about whether Manning's actions are praiseworthy and/or generally good, but you all just wanted to shout at your computers about why military bad

Guess the retard was me all along

wrong, it's you, and you knew that's what this spoiler text was going to say but you moused over it anyway, you are dumb

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006


I'm going to give him credit as someone who's covering Brazilian Politics as someone who is a well known figure with following from both the left and right and using his position to highlight just how messed up the Post-Dilma-impeachment ordeal became. Seeing someone like that who can bridge the Anglophone and Lusophone spheres is honestly a huge boon when other major networks , both Portuguese Owned and Brazilian Owned are all "What are you talking about, Temer is great and fixing a lot of the ***POPULIST*** things Lula did."

If people aren't going to listen to brazilian lefties describing the intentional heavy stripping labor and social contract conditions, maybe they'll at least hear someone who's somewhat known for covering the ills of both US parties?

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
"She should have handed the information to the people who were covering everything up in the first place"

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
hey, it feels great not being spied on online now! isn't it great? assange and his crony chelsea really did the world a favor

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I wonder why WaPo and NYT weren't interested in publishing video of American war crimes? We just may never know.

https://youtu.be/DBIfHyjrjkU

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011
because you touch yourself at night

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

sure is some disgusting respect for the concept of the Law in this thread.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
"The security panopticon exists in response to Chelsea Manning" is kind of hilarious given it's the culmination of decades of effort.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Zeris posted:

Trump and his son are too, hope you love them as much

Come on, at least go for a believable comparison, John Pollard or something. To attack someone being a whistleblower, you attack their motivation, say that they did it for money or "attention,"

Unless that is what you're trying to say? To you, Manning's leaks are just as transparently self-serving as The Donalds'? At least that would be more of a potential argument than "but did it end racismwar?!"


Please don't declare victory and retreat, the jokes about modern American military traditions are too obvious.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

yeah in gip we're chill, laid back, cool vets. oh yeah anyone who breaks the rules is a loving deviant who should be tortured to death in a literal oubliette

this is also how yospos works if you buy a windows phone

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

I never followed the case past the initial stories but after like 30 minutes of Googling I think I think it's pretty clear why Manning why was thrown in jail and also clear why she was pardoned. Don't just blindly leak classified info from an active war zone, even if there are legit war crimes exposed with everything else, and don't loving talk about crimes you committed and got away with lol

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Brother Friendship posted:

. Don't just blindly leak classified info from an active war zone, even if there are legit war crimes exposed with everything else, and don't loving talk about crimes you committed and got away with lol

first half wrong, second half right.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Baloogan posted:

its okay, you can still like chesia while also knowing shes a dumb as gently caress traitor

shut the gently caress up baloogan

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Zeris posted:

Infiltrate executive branch, be dumb, do dumb things because you hate your parents, become beloved by cult of retards...yes...

why is this loving moron a mod

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

ah itds a gip mod lol that makes perfect sense

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

how does one become mod of gip anywyas. do you just get the person with the most atrocities and warcrimes to do it?

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
chelsea "they promised me I could be a mod for wikileaks...that was the deal...obama!!!" manning

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

babypolis posted:

how does one become mod of gip anywyas. do you just get the person with the most atrocities and warcrimes to do it?

post in GIP to find out

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Imma quote my old post on this because I think it's on the money:

rudatron posted:

Going through her backstory, it's pretty clear that they're a person who's suffered quite a lot, and who definitely did not fit in, wherever they went. Social isolation, a long history of bullying, unstable family life, and simply being the last kind of person that would do well in the army, given the, uh, work culture you get there. They only managed to find a community on online message boards, and the tech scene, which lead then to wikileaks.

More than an act of protest, of cruelties viewed, I suspect the leaks were done for very personal reasons. Namely, anger at a society that she had been victimized by.
You can interpret her actions however you want, but I'm convinced she wouldn't have done it at all if not for just being really lonely. It certainly wasn't a crisis of conscience that created it, because manning wasn't personally aware of any informative in the leak, all she did was just copy it and move it.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


babypolis posted:

how does one become mod of gip anywyas. do you just get the person with the most atrocities and warcrimes to do it?

Wow you sure showed him with your deep historical knowledge, what's next, you gonna bust out the big guns like "baby-killer"? Maybe mix it up with some classism?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I dunno if Zeris committed war crimes, but he is criminally stupid.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
look, the times i killed babies it was because i legitimately feared for my safety

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Baloogan posted:

hey, it feels great not being spied on online now! isn't it great? assange and his crony chelsea really did the world a favor

Chelsea is a hero and you're a pathetic drunkard who used to be a pseudo-moderator on an internet site.

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.
Hilarious

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.
also people taking baloogan seriously, rofl

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

SunAndSpring posted:

Chelsea is a hero and you're a pathetic drunkard who used to be a pseudo-moderator on an internet site.

assange is a hero too i guess lol

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

mister magpie posted:

also people taking baloogan seriously, rofl

I don't take him seriously, I just don't think having a drunk who wanders around pissing himself is all that funny, it's just loving sad.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Doc Hawkins posted:

Wow you sure showed him with your deep historical knowledge, what's next, you gonna bust out the big guns like "baby-killer"? Maybe mix it up with some classism?

im sorry you signed up to be indoctrinated into murdering ppl but dont blame me for that

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

SunAndSpring posted:

I don't take him seriously, I just don't think having a drunk who wanders around pissing himself is all that funny, it's just loving sad.

sounds p serious to me

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Doc Hawkins posted:

Wow you sure showed him with your deep historical knowledge, what's next, you gonna bust out the big guns like "baby-killer"? Maybe mix it up with some classism?

im the dsa gang tag haver who loves the united states armed forces

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

*watches video of a gunship raking a van with children in it*

oh what are you gonna call this gunner a "babykiller" now?

Pussy Cartel
Jun 26, 2011



Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

im the dsa gang tag haver who loves the united states armed forces

Room and board, healthcare, a job, it's peak socialism I tell ya

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Baloogan posted:

assange is a hero too i guess lol

assange is terrible

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

R. Guyovich posted:

im the dsa gang tag haver who loves the united states armed forces

im the leftist who cheers for assad and north korea

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Pussy Cartel posted:

Room and board, healthcare, a job, it's peak socialism I tell ya

albecht macht frei

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
Manning and Snowden are heroes who broke laws to expose institutional misbehavior. They should face trial by a jury of their peers and let citizens decide if the good they did outweighs the laws they broke.

Assange is just a worthless televangelist.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

im the useless poster no one cares about or remembers

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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Zeris posted:

Wait this whole time I've been trying to have a debate about whether Manning's actions are praiseworthy and/or generally good, but you all just wanted to shout at your computers about why military bad

The information Manning exposed was cited by the Iraqi legislature as reasons to draw back the scope of its permitted American involvement in their country so it forced the war to deescalate, for a while anyway

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