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It turns out bourgeois notions like "freedom of thought" and "freedom of speech" are actually pretty danged handy sometimes.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Seabed Methane: "Pull my finger" Big Bang: Just gently caress my poo poo up, fam
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:yes dude russian science was definitely separated from western science up until the soviet union fell both politically and linguistically This is incredibly stupid.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This is incredibly stupid. DAE think science is like Civilization's tech tree?!?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This is incredibly stupid. watson and crick discovered the structure of dna in 1953. lysenko was not discredited until the 1960s in the words of the great dissident scientist sakharov who helped restore russian academia: "Lysenko is responsible for the shameful backwardness of Soviet biology and of genetics in particular." so yeah it kinda seems that you are the incredibly stupid one on this here matter pener
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:watson and crick discovered the structure of dna in 1953. lysenko was not discredited until the 1960s You keep moving the goalposts around from "Russian biology couldn't recover until recently" to "Russia is only a leader of biology until recently," and now that you've been called out for acting like scientific research in the West and the Warsaw Pact were mutually unintelligible because it's somehow impossible to translate English to a cyrillic alphabet, you've cited the developer of Soviet thermonuclear weapons as if it has anything to do with what you're saying.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You keep moving the goalposts around from "Russian biology couldn't recover until recently" to "Russia is only a leader of biology until recently," and now that you've been called out for acting like scientific research in the West and the Warsaw Pact were mutually unintelligible because it's somehow impossible to translate English to a cyrillic alphabet, you've cited the developer of Soviet thermonuclear weapons as if it has anything to do with what you're saying. lmao engage tankie mode when did i call russia a leader in biology who is calling me out? if you're acting like there wasn't a definitive barrier between soviet and western science during the cold war i don't even know what to say lol
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:watson and crick discovered the structure of dna in 1953. lysenko was not discredited until the 1960s Lysenko was discredited in the 60s already and biology congresses in China and the USSR were already making GBS threads on it in the 50s. The only place where Lysenko held past the 50s was Czechoslovakia and other minor satellites.
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russian scientists did not really read western journals to a huge capacity and did not publish in them. western scientists did not read or publish in russian journals. the former has remained an enormous problem until the last ten years maybe
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Agnosticnixie posted:Lysenko was discredited in the 60s already and biology congresses in China and the USSR were already making GBS threads on it in the 50s. The only place where Lysenko held past the 50s was Czechoslovakia and other minor satellites. buddy here's a review article from 1974 that says lysenkoist thinking was a problem even then in soviet biology http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01044062?no-access=true
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:lmao engage tankie mode Obviously there are going to be significant barriers in the sharing of research considered essential for the national defense, like nuclear weapons or stealth technology, but Soviet and Western scientists exchanged information on theoretical research all the time. There were multiple Soviet recipients of the Nobel prize in science even.
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May 19, 2017 20:17
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Obviously there are going to be significant barriers in the sharing of research considered essential for the national defense, like nuclear weapons or stealth technology, but Soviet and Western scientists exchanged information on theoretical research all the time. There were multiple Soviet recipients of the Nobel prize in science even. how many soviet biologists won nobel prizes? i'll wait
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:how many soviet biologists won nobel prizes? i'll wait 
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why are you guys arguing the history of biology with a biotruther?
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im sorry you keep owning yourself pener
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i mean bulgogi probably thinks your gender and sex is determined entirely by your chromosomes
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Mendelian genetics is fascism.
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Condiv posted:i mean bulgogi probably thinks your gender and sex is determined entirely by your chromosomes There are only two genders, Communist & Fascist
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GalacticAcid posted:love to die twenty years younger due to shock therapy. can't beat it. so good. A Pence man, eh?
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In conclusion; Russian Biology is a land of contrasts
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:rip my great granddad I'm sorry for gran papa Fritz 
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Did communism kill Ayn Rand by driving her out to suffer in American poverty?
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Did communism kill Ayn Rand by driving her out to suffer in American poverty? 
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how strange that it was not communism which killed this thread
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Yaldabaoth The Cosmic Demiurge: *Massive bong rip* I just had this great idea what if we...
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Donald Trump: *grins smugly*
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Rip this thread, another victim of communism inspiring capitalists to defend their fraud
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NORTH KOREAN MUSIC SUCKS
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Piss de Bundy posted:NORTH KOREAN MUSIC SUCKS Nah, the North Korean song titled "Death to US Imperialism" is actually quite excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i33mKIcwfx8
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Piss de Bundy posted:NORTH KOREAN MUSIC SUCKS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:It turns out bourgeois notions like "freedom of thought" and "freedom of speech" are actually pretty danged handy sometimes. they're mostly poo poo
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Piss de Bundy posted:NORTH KOREAN MUSIC SUCKS this is objectively good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZiVWXjsaJg
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Homeless Friend posted:they're mostly poo poo mlyp
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in the ussr women became leaders of the sciences in the usa women were lobotomized for talking back to dad
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But real talk the 2012 internet scene was a dark time in history and we can all agree that history must not be allowed to repeat itself
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R. Guyovich posted:this is objectively good why must i repeat myself that dramatic style of socialist singing is just loud and overbearing, sounds like opera poo poo tankie memes and tankie music is garbage
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Piss de Bundy posted:tankie memes and tankie music is garbage
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guess you could say every itt is a victim of my posting 
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