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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Gazpacho posted:

welp i'm not watching the show but from the reports coming in i get the impression that lynch isn't going for fan service and is trashing the whole "quirky little town" aspect of the original, c/d?

the original twin peaks was david lynch's vision when he was 25 years younger, tailored so it could air on one of the big three television networks back when that meant something

this is twin peaks as made by david lynch 25 years later, when he's older, crankier, and more sure of himself as an artist, who convinced a cable channel (so he can swear and show tits and gore) to pay for 18 hours of whatever he wanted to film

there's tons of fanservice in it but this is still pure distilled lynch which, it turns out, is absurdist and bugfuck. people are going to piss and moan about it no matter what it is because it's never going to live up to 25 years of cult expectations, but it is really good if you like david lynch

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Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
don't touch that dial or the bogeyman will leap out of your loving TV and maul you

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

ill watch this show in ten years when its not cool and out of print and nobody cares and ill post about it too!!!

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

oh god. I finished ep 4. showtime paid david lynch to make an 8 hour inland empire staring kyle maclachlan. I can't imagine this will be well received. we're in for a ride boys

also the most shocking thing is michael cera, what the gently caress

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Zmej posted:

oh god. I finished ep 4. showtime paid david lynch to make an 8 hour inland empire staring kyle maclachlan. I can't imagine this will be well received. we're in for a ride boys

also the most shocking thing is michael cera, what the gently caress

18 hour :getin:

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
If I didn't like the original 1990 show, will I enjoy this new season?

Commie Lasorda
May 15, 2009

IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!

Manchild King posted:

If I didn't like the original 1990 show, will I enjoy this new season?

Depends. Did you like the movie prequel Fire Walk With Me? It feels more like that. People whine about its slow pace but the new season is definitely heavy on the visual storytelling so if you're a fan of dialogue it's probably not for you.

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
I haven't watched Fire Walk With Me. I only saw Twin Peaks for the first time about two years ago, I think that's probably a big part of why I don't "get" it.

But thanks for the Ernest reply.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Here is my hot take.

Coop's arc is so far Lynch's own. Dougey is our perception of Lynch born of the original show with quirky characters and whatnot, as hinted at by his loud suits and wild anachronistic hairstyle. And Lynch, who's spent some time out of business in his own Another Place doing weird poo poo, now returns, wins a jackpot by bagging a full season of the show again, but is expected by some to deliver the same thing as 25 years ago, as he fumbles to meet expectations, barely even remembering how to direct, the language of film, after all those years. Bad Coop is what some more 'hardcore' audience expect from the show - pain and suffering for the sake of themselves, the darkness that Lynch is also famous for thanks to his other works. They don't need, they want. Not going to go through excessive scene-by-scene analysis, as it really wouldn't add anything to my interpretation, but it's all there on the surface. I don't think it's too far-fetched all things considered, so CineD wouldn't probably be on board with this reading.

But mainly lol at Windows Surface product placement.

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE9eQwxkgsY

Commie Lasorda
May 15, 2009

IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!

Paladinus posted:

Here is my hot take.

You're not wrong.

Seeing as how we're introduced to Dougie staying in a Rancho Rosa estate house. Which coincidentally is the name of the production company for the show. Later when he's in the black lodge, he's told that he was 'manufactured' for a purpose. Which is Lynch's surreal way of delivering a narrative in a totally fourth wall breaking way.

This show is meta as gently caress and it's awesome. I also lol'd at David Duchovny's scene.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I have a question...

Why does Coop have TWO doppelgangers? Why are there essentially 3 Coops (2 now) instead of good-and-trapped Coop vs evil-and-free Coop?

I guess I'm on board with that, but I stepped away from the tv briefly as I guess Dougie showed up and for a while just thought it was a weird flash forward of good Coop.

This is akin to Bill Pullman turning into Balthazar Getty and even the other characters wondering what the gently caress.

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

I think evil coop just made a golem out of evil fart gas or something to get sucked into the black lodge instead of him when his time was up and gently caress over good cooper when he got out.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

I think evil coop just made a golem out of evil fart gas or something to get sucked into the black lodge instead of him when his time was up and gently caress over good cooper when he got out.

I had to re-read this and think about it longer than I expected, but I can see this being the case.

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

lol. my body is not ready.

Paladinus posted:

Here is my hot take.
:aaaaa: maybe I was right telling my friend lynch is just using this season to troll. maybe this really is lynch's magnum opus.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Dougie is made out of the rest of the dog. Doggie. It is known.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Every post, review, and thinkpiece is "aww man, this is full-on Lynch, I think people are going to hate this but I (a man of refined tastes) loving love it", and actually nobody is saying they don't like it because the people who wouldn't like it knew not to watch it to begin with.

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

i don't like it but i don't hate it.

ps. reposting from the tviv thread:

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012

Solice Kirsk posted:

Dougie is made out of the rest of the dog. Doggie. It is known.

dougie

dog

house?

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
i forgot about david ducchovny being trans in the show and it's great to see.

not for any social reason it's just jarringly funny.

Neurosis fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 23, 2017

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Log Lady scenes made me sad because they were obviously filmed on her deathbed. :(

SPACE HOMOS
Jan 12, 2005

SplitSoul posted:

Log Lady scenes made me sad because they were obviously filmed on her deathbed. :(

She died after filming.

RIP Catherine E. Coulson (Log Lady), Warren Frost (Dr. Hayward), Jack Nance (Pete Martell), Frank Silva (Bob), and Don S. Davis (Garland Briggs).

SPACE HOMOS fucked around with this message at 16:37 on May 23, 2017

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I don't know why they had to go with two brothers Truman just because the original Harry wasn't available. Donna was played by a different actress in FWWM, and ostensibly Harry Truman could look like anything after 25 years. But they went through the trouble of introducing his brother, who is basically the same character, in the official novel before season three and stuff. Lynch loves the theme of duality, so who knows.

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013

SPACE HOMOS posted:

She died after filming.

RIP Catherine E. Coulson (Log Lady), Warren Frost (Dr. Hayward), Jack Nance (Pete Martell), Frank Silva (Bob), and Don S. Davis (Garland Briggs).

Also: David Bowie (Phillip Jefferies), Miguel Ferrer (Albert Rosenfield)

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Neurosis posted:

i forgot about david ducchovny being trans in the show and it's great to see.

not for any social reason it's just jarringly funny.

Fix your heart or die!

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Paladinus posted:

I don't know why they had to go with two brothers Truman just because the original Harry wasn't available. Donna was played by a different actress in FWWM, and ostensibly Harry Truman could look like anything after 25 years. But they went through the trouble of introducing his brother, who is basically the same character, in the official novel before season three and stuff. Lynch loves the theme of duality, so who knows.

As far as the show is concerned, it's basically no trouble at all to introduce him as a separate character; it takes like 5 seconds. The recasting in FWWM was kind of unavoidable by virtue of it being a prequel.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



WaryWarren posted:

Also: David Bowie (Phillip Jefferies), Miguel Ferrer (Albert Rosenfield)

And Michael Parks (Jean Renault)

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
I thought The Man from Another Place was dead, but actually he passed on the new series because of money and also had a big meltdown on Facebook where he accused Lynch of raping his own daughter and having Jack Nance murdered and also said Twin Peaks was boring :rip:

So anyway, that's why he's a brain on a tree now

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
I'll give it a shot but I have very low expectations for any 90s TV revival.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

I'll give it a shot but I have very low expectations for any 90s TV revival.

It's better than Fuller House, but not as good as a theoretical David Lynch-directed Fuller House.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

General Dog posted:

It's better than Fuller House, but not as good as a theoretical David Lynch-directed Fuller House.

That is a very low bar to cross.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Fuller House is exactly what it was when it was Full House, but with worse actors. Obviously.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Fuller House: Have Mercy, it is happening again. Aie, chihuahua!

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
The real Michelle has been stuck in the black lodge ever since her horse riding accident at the end of the original series.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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The Olsen twins would be perfect for real/doppelganger Michelle Tanner plot lines. We need to convince Lynch that this isn't his swan song.

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013
the olsen twins being raped and killed by bob saget. lol

Rasta_Al
Jul 14, 2001

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldSmIue1iQs

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

WaryWarren posted:

the olsen twins being raped and killed by bob saget. lol

C'mon, we know who the real culprit would be

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
So is there anything in season 3 so far that's like the red room scenes at the end of season 2? Should I watch any of season 3 or should I just go rewatch that?

Full disclosure, watched all of season 1 and season 2 after seeing the red room poo poo out of context. But I remember finding it barely watchable.

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Helianthus Annuus posted:

So is there anything in season 3 so far that's like the red room scenes at the end of season 2? Should I watch any of season 3 or should I just go rewatch that?

Full disclosure, watched all of season 1 and season 2 after seeing the red room poo poo out of context. But I remember finding it barely watchable.

80% of season 3 is like that. Watch it.

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